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Re: Remembrance Day 2013
« Reply #75 on: November 20, 2013, 16:27:29 »
I doubt the USA has any regs on poppy placement. So she gets a pass.
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Re: Remembrance Day 2013
« Reply #76 on: November 20, 2013, 16:30:12 »
I believe that she is wearing what are referred to as "neck tabs", in lieu of tie.


Thanks couldn't remember what they were called.

I doubt the USA has any regs on poppy placement. So she gets a pass.

like 90% of the population of the country then  ;D ah well at least she's wearing one
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Re: Remembrance Day 2013
« Reply #77 on: November 08, 2015, 07:31:57 »
We don't seem to have a standing Remembrance Day page ~ it's possible I didn't search well enough ~ but rather than start a new one for 2015 I'll just tag on to this one ...




It's Remembrance Sunday, today, in Britain and around the world ...

... it's a custom I believe we should adopt, rather than having a selective holiday on November 11th so that most civil servants and bank clerks and a few others can have a day off for pre-Christmas shopping.

Soldiers (sailors and RCAF members, too) and school children should 'parade' (again) on 11 Nov for a very  brief ceremony ~ Remembrance for the people in uniform, a "teaching moment" for the students.
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Re: Remembrance Day 2013
« Reply #78 on: November 08, 2015, 10:13:03 »
What do War Veterans Remember on Remembrance Day?

I am a war veteran.

Remembrance Day is just around the corner.

Many people who are not war veterans wonder: what do war veterans remember on Remembrance Day?

The answer may surprise you….

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/what-do-war-veterans-remember-remembrance-day-richard-eaton?trk=pulse_spock-articles
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Re: Remembrance Day 2013
« Reply #79 on: November 08, 2015, 12:03:20 »

... it's a custom I believe we should adopt, rather than having a selective holiday on November 11th so that most civil servants and bank clerks and a few others can have a day off for pre-Christmas shopping.

Soldiers (sailors and RCAF members, too) and school children should 'parade' (again) on 11 Nov for a very  brief ceremony ~ Remembrance for the people in uniform, a "teaching moment" for the students.

Milnet did a poll: "Remembrance Day should be a National Holiday?" Of the members who participated, 63.9% voted yes.

Remembrance Day: National holiday?/"Veterans' Day"? (merged)
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=22329.75
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Remembrance Day was a Statutory Holiday where I worked. But, it was not a day off. We were mandated to report to our stations.
November 11 paid 12-hours at triple time. Didn't matter if your platoon was on the day or night shift.

Our department sends the Chief's Ceremonial Unit ( aka Honour Guard ) to Old City Hall on November 11th.

One thing I do this time of year when walking around my neighborhood, is to remember this map,

"Grief’s geography: Mapping 6,160 Torontonians killed in three wars"
http://globalnews.ca/news/932833/griefs-geography-mapping-torontonians-killed-three-wars/


 
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Re: Remembrance Day 2013
« Reply #80 on: November 08, 2015, 12:37:27 »
What do War Veterans Remember on Remembrance Day?

I am a war veteran.

Remembrance Day is just around the corner.

Many people who are not war veterans wonder: what do war veterans remember on Remembrance Day?

The answer may surprise you….

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/what-do-war-veterans-remember-remembrance-day-richard-eaton?trk=pulse_spock-articles

Well said. 

Mods:  Could we just title this "Remembrance Day" and put it as a sticky?
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Re: Remembrance Day 2013
« Reply #81 on: November 08, 2015, 14:18:34 »
Excellent post, Richard.

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Re: Remembrance Day
« Reply #82 on: November 10, 2015, 16:04:01 »
Just in time for Remembrance Day, the RCL come across looking like Mafia Dons wanting to protect their operation from interlopers.

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Remembrance Day poppy pin that won't fall off too commercial: legion HQ

Dominion Command says pin-centre substitute ‘defaces' sacred symbol

By Danielle Nerman, CBC News Posted: Nov 10, 2015 8:06 AM MT| Last Updated: Nov 10, 2015 11:29 AM MT

The head office of the Royal Canadian Legion says the sale of a little black pin designed to keep you from losing yet another poppy is commercializing Remembrance Day.

"People are being asked to pay $3 for a centre pin which is not really part of the spirit of the campaign. It's a commercial venture," said Bill Maxwell, senior program officer with the Royal Canadian Legion Dominion Command in Ottawa.

The pin is a near replica of the black felt centre of the legion's traditional poppy — minus the sharp, straight pin. Instead, the poppy centre substitute is a lapel pin with a flat back that doesn't poke and stays put.

The pins are manufactured and sold privately online for $3 to $5 apiece, but at least four Calgary branches are also selling them alongside their Remembrance Day poppy campaigns.

"There's a substantial discount that I give to the legions so that they can, you know, make some profit. And what they do with that — that's their business. They can put it into their general funds or they can put it into the poppy fund," said Doug Michetti, the Calgary man behind the poppy pin centres.

Michetti, a longtime legion member and volunteer, says branches sell his pins to the public for $3 each. He says he charges them "less than half that" for each pin and it costs him a dollar to make a pin. He keeps any remaining profit, but declined to provide more details.

"The legions do not sell them with the poppy. You contribute to the poppy fund and you take a poppy and if you want a pin, you buy that separately."

Designed for safety

Michetti came up with the idea for his poppy pin centres four years ago while volunteering for local branch No. 284 at the Calgary airport.

Two young girls from the U.S. approached him, curious about the red plastic flower brooches on his table. After a brief lesson in Canadian history, Michetti gave each of them a poppy pin.

"Then, their mother came along and she looked at the pin and the poppy and said, 'I'm sorry, but girls, you're going to have to give those back.' She was afraid of the pin."

That prompted Michetti to devise a safer backing. Excited by his eureka moment, he immediately rang up head office to inquire about joining forces.

Legion brass told Michetti it was good idea, but they were not interested.

"So I thought, well, it leaves me to do it. So I did it."


Poppy pin centres sell like gangbusters

On Monday, two Royal Canadian Legion branches in Calgary — No. 154 (Ogden) and No. 264 (Kensington) — had sold out of Michetti's pins.

"I've had no luck so far, " said Lise Marier, who has been searching the city for a dozen poppy pin centres for her family and friends.

In downtown Calgary, a volunteer with the No.1 branch sold 200 in three hours after the word got out on Facebook.

Social media has really ramped up the sale of the poppy centre pins.

"You know it is defacing our poppy, and our policy is such that the poppy should not be defaced," said Maxwell, who also speaks for the Royal Canadian Legion's poppy and remembrance committee in Ottawa.

His stance is in line with what's written on page 42 of the Legion's Poppy Manual — that the poppy is a 'sacred symbol of remembrance' and no other pin (except the pointy one that it comes with) should be used to attach it to your clothing.

Maxwell said legionnaires should wear their poppies in the traditional fashion, but recognizes that the Royal Canadian Legion can't control the will of the Canadian public.

"It's a personal choice. And it's better to wear a poppy than no poppy at all," he said.

Dominion Command has directed branches across Canada not to sell the poppy pin centre substitutes.

Maxwell adds that if people are worried about poking themselves with the poppy pin, many legion branches supply "poppy savers," or plastic ends, to put on the pointy end of the pin.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/remembrance-day-poppy-won-t-fall-off-1.3311799

His webpage is here: Poppy Pins  I'm ordering the 5 for $20 set.
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Re: Remembrance Day
« Reply #83 on: November 10, 2015, 17:01:15 »
"Remembrance Day poppy pin that won't fall off too commercial: legion HQ"

From reading "The Poppy Selling Superthread- Merged", it looks like the poppy-pin issue has been around for years. 
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Re: Remembrance Day 2013
« Reply #84 on: November 15, 2015, 00:09:03 »
Excellent post, Richard.

Thanks! Only took about 30 years to write....  ;D
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Re: Remembrance Day
« Reply #85 on: November 15, 2015, 08:47:44 »
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"You know it is defacing our poppy, and our policy is such that the poppy should not be defaced," said Maxwell, who also speaks for the Royal Canadian Legion's poppy and remembrance committee in Ottawa.

His stance is in line with what's written on page 42 of the Legion's Poppy Manual — that the poppy is a 'sacred symbol of remembrance' and no other pin (except the pointy one that it comes with) should be used to attach it to your clothing.

Bullshit like this makes me want to stop wearing a poppy, or get on of the British looking one.

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Re: Remembrance Day
« Reply #86 on: November 15, 2015, 09:08:20 »
Bullshit like this makes me want to stop wearing a poppy, or get on of the British looking one.


I know; I keep buying them but then I attach them with something of my own: a Regimental badge, a Crowsnest pin, or a little maple leaf pin ~ anything I can do to disobey the Legion drones.
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Re: Remembrance Day
« Reply #87 on: November 15, 2015, 12:58:26 »
Lets see how long that Legion Pin only policy lasts after some poor US kid pokes his eye out with the pin and wins a $5 millions judgement against the Legion in the US, which our courts would recognize for execution because US courts are considered fair and unbiased.  ;D

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Re: Remembrance Day
« Reply #88 on: November 15, 2015, 14:06:38 »
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I know; I keep buying them but then I attach them with something of my own: a Regimental badge, a Crowsnest pin, or a little maple leaf pin ~ anything I can do to disobey the Legion drones.
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Re: Remembrance Day
« Reply #89 on: November 15, 2015, 15:31:05 »
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I know; I keep buying them but then I attach them with something of my own: a Regimental badge, a Crowsnest pin, or a little maple leaf pin ~ anything I can do to disobey the Legion drones.

Someone please explain to me why the CF cannot do the same.

I started wearing this Regimental pin my last year in uniform.
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Re: Remembrance Day
« Reply #90 on: November 15, 2015, 18:47:47 »
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Re: Remembrance Day
« Reply #91 on: November 17, 2015, 07:20:57 »
I didn't hear of any posers in this year's round  ceremonies...a good thing...
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Re: Remembrance Day
« Reply #92 on: November 17, 2015, 15:11:07 »
I didn't hear of any posers in this year's round  ceremonies...a good thing...

After the hoopla and media beat-down of the guy last year, I'd be surprised if there was one anywhere in Canada.
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Re: Remembrance Day
« Reply #93 on: November 17, 2015, 17:21:28 »
ERC:
Someone please explain to me why the CF cannot do the same.


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Re: Remembrance Day
« Reply #94 on: November 17, 2015, 21:19:40 »
I didn't hear of any posers in this year's round  ceremonies...a good thing...
Sounds like one on Vancouver Island.
Found on a RCR group on Facebook.

"Anyone know this guy. Claims he served with the PPCLI, CAR and Cdn Guards as an infantryman/ Commando. Also, claims to have served in Viet Nam and after checking on his valour awards he's not listed as a recipient of the US Silver Star or Bronze Star for service with the US military. Same goes for his Purple Heart medal (brother from the 101st checked on it).
His name is Robert (Bob) Collins and lives on the island somewhere. Can someone vouch for his service? Nobody on the 2 Commando site know's him so we may have a poser that needs to be exposed. He shut down his site after he was questioned about his time in the Regiment.
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Even the CD is misplaced.
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Re: Remembrance Day
« Reply #95 on: November 18, 2015, 01:15:42 »
Sounds like one on Vancouver Island.
Found on a RCR group on Facebook.


"Anyone know this guy. Claims he served with the PPCLI, CAR and Cdn Guards as an infantryman/ Commando. Also, claims to have served in Viet Nam and after checking on his valour awards he's not listed as a recipient of the US Silver Star or Bronze Star for service with the US military. Same goes for his Purple Heart medal (brother from the 101st checked on it).
His name is Robert (Bob) Collins and lives on the island somewhere. Can someone vouch for his service? Nobody on the 2 Commando site know's him so we may have a poser that needs to be exposed. He shut down his site after he was questioned about his time in the Regiment.
"
Even the CD is misplaced.
Also many other inquiries don't pan out.

There was a brief discussion about him (without mentioning his name) on the Walt thread starting at this post.
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Re: Remembrance Day
« Reply #96 on: November 18, 2015, 07:46:12 »
Seems the order of his medals has changed a little and in the picture I posted he has grown Canadian jump wings.

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Re: Remembrance Day
« Reply #97 on: November 18, 2015, 08:04:50 »
His Facebook page has him living in Sedro-Woolley, Washington. 
His friends list may lead to some info.
https://www.facebook.com/bob.collins.7393264?ref=br_rs
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