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Re: Ebola -- International Security Measures Fail
« Reply #50 on: October 20, 2014, 10:17:58 »
I hope I am wrong to worry as much as I do and you are right.

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Re: Ebola -- International Security Measures Fail
« Reply #51 on: October 20, 2014, 12:24:40 »
I hope I am wrong to worry as much as I do and you are right.

And I hope I am not proven wrong.  Worry and concern is good.  How we manage that is another thing.

Sadly, especially in the U.S. and to a lesser extent here, there is a certain segment that is reactionary in the extreme fueled by fear and misinformation.  The media and especially personalities make it worse.  Dr. Oz (dear God) is likely the only source of information on this for some people.  when we start seeing articlres on how this might become airborne or might spread like wild fire, it certainly does cause worry.  Tea party types  and republicans like Rick Perry aren't helping.

I heard a good explanations that there is a cost for ebola and there is also a cost for the fear of ebola.
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Re: Ebola -- International Security Measures Fail
« Reply #52 on: October 20, 2014, 12:39:18 »
This article again by CNN explains the hysteria behind "Fear-Bola".

Crazy actually.  Ironically CNN is partially to blame for creating the hysteria to begin with...

 http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/20/health/ebola-overreaction/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
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Re: Ebola -- International Security Measures Fail
« Reply #53 on: October 20, 2014, 13:05:26 »
They had a trip planned to go to Mount Kilimanjaro for some time. They thought it would ok since there had been no cases in that part of Africa. Military said no.

I was going to call BS on this given that

A) No cases reported, and

B) Tanzania is 3000 freakin miles from the areas hit. 

The reason they were probably denied is the sectarian violence and high risk of terrorism as per the DFAIT travel advisory web page.
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Re: Ebola -- International Security Measures Fail
« Reply #54 on: October 20, 2014, 13:10:08 »
Meanwhile, this kind of thing isn't helping:
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Dr. Cyril Broderick, A Liberian scientist and a former professor of Plant Pathology at the University of Liberia’s College of Agriculture and Forestry says the West, particularly the U.S. is responsible for the Ebola outbreak in West Africa. Dr. Broderick claims the following in an exclusive article published in the Daily Observer based in Monrovia, Liberia ....
And the response of the university where the good Dr. Broderick works now?
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Delaware State University said it won’t interfere with the free speech rights of a tenured professor who wrote a wildly speculative and conspiratorial article in a Liberian newspaper in which he claimed that the U.S. government manufactured the Ebola virus and spread it in West Africa under the guise of vaccine testing.

“The university is not going to abridge his First Amendment rights to give his opinion about the issues of the day,” said Carlos Holmes, a spokesman for the school, where Cyril Broderick is an associate professor in the agriculture and natural resources department.

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He declined to comment on whether the university had spoken to Broderick, citing a policy of keeping “personnel issues” private.

“A lot of people can have tenure at a university and then they’ll go out and commit mass murder, okay,” Holmes said. “We didn’t know that they would do that before they were granted tenure.

“You’re talking about something that is happening first of all after he has been granted tenure.”

He added that the comments have nothing to do with the university ....
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Re: Ebola -- International Security Measures Fail
« Reply #55 on: October 20, 2014, 14:05:17 »
And I hope I am not proven wrong.  Worry and concern is good.  How we manage that is another thing.

Sadly, especially in the U.S. and to a lesser extent here, there is a certain segment that is reactionary in the extreme fueled by fear and misinformation.  The media and especially personalities make it worse.  Dr. Oz (dear God) is likely the only source of information on this for some people.  when we start seeing articlres on how this might become airborne or might spread like wild fire, it certainly does cause worry.  Tea party types  and republicans like Rick Perry aren't helping.

I heard a good explanations that there is a cost for ebola and there is also a cost for the fear of ebola.
This is an election year, showing your current party is hopeless to stop a epidemic that is ravaging another part of the globe is to good to pass up, they do the same up here as well. having CDC doing the clown college and "medical professionals" totally drop the ball feeds the worry. Americans have a culture of distrust in government, which not all that unjustified.
 You notice that Harper is using this crisis to good effect, trying to show that his government is serious about the threat helping abroad and preparing here at home. Plays well I suspect. 

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More US troops arriving in West Africa for Ebola fight
« Reply #56 on: October 21, 2014, 10:11:29 »
More US troops to arrive in Liberia to reinforce those reported earlier in the Africa crisis thread:

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More US Troops Arriving in West Africa for Ebola Fight

 | Oct 21, 2014 | by Chris Carroll
WASHINGTON — More U.S. troops are arriving in West Africa to help fight an Ebola outbreak that has claimed more than 4,500 lives, but the rainy season is causing a delay, the Pentagon announced Monday.

Slightly more than 500 servicemembers are now in Liberia to build treatment centers and provide logistical support. Another 115 are in Dakar, Senegal, at an “air bridge” transportation hub to support the mission, Pentagon spokesman Col. Steve Warren told reporters.

About 80 more troops will arrive by Wednesday, he said, and thousands of soldiers are scheduled to deploy to the country in the coming weeks
. Officials say military personnel will not be assigned to patient treatment, and have repeatedly said there is little risk of infection.

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Re: Ebola -- International Security Measures Fail
« Reply #57 on: October 21, 2014, 20:24:37 »
Nigeria apparently defeated Ebola with good old fashioned epedimiology work (thousands of man hours tracking down contacts of victims and suspected victims, for example). OTOH, Liberia looks to be falling even further behind as they have not done the work to identify and report victims and contacts of the disease. The attitudes of Westerners operating there is incomprehensible as well:

http://www.the-american-interest.com/blog/2014/10/19/ebola-out-of-control/

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Ebola Out of Control
A window into Liberia in the throes of the plague: Westerners boogie the night away in dance halls, sleep with local prostitutes even as authorities downplay the size of the epidemic. Families hide the truth about what’s wrong with their loved ones, fearing consequences of letting authorities and neighbors know the truth. That’s according to this terrifying account provided by the Guardian:

[Sorious] Samura, a television journalist originally from Sierra Leone, said the Liberian authorities appeared to be deliberately downplaying the true number of cases, for fear of increasing alarm in the west African country.

“People are dying in greater numbers than we know, according to MSF [Médecins sans Frontières] and WHO officials. Certain departments are refusing to give them the figures – because the lower it is, the more peace of mind they can give people. The truth is that it is still not under control.” [...]

Samura believes sexual promiscuity among westerners could play a role in the virus’s spread abroad. Almost immediately after the outbreak was reported in March, Liberia’s health minister warned people to stop having sex because the virus was spread via bodily fluids as well as kissing.“I saw westerners in nightclubs, on beaches, guys picking up prostitutes,” he said. “Westerners who ought to know better are going to nightclubs and partying and dancing. It beggars belief. It’s scary.”

If true, Ebola may not come to the West via Liberian or other West African citizens, but from returning aid workers, tourists, business people and others.

One possibility: Many businessmen in West Africa are of Lebanese and Syrian extraction. Put the Ebola virus into a combat zone where medical services are already overwhelmed, and the consequences in refugee camps and cities under siege don’t bear thinking about.

It’s much too soon to tell what the course of the Ebola epidemic will be, but so far it has to be said that Ebola has been easier to catch and harder to contain than officials everywhere have anticipated.

Appearing in West Africa, a part of the world where governments are weak, public health services poor, and local customs and beliefs conducive to its spread deeply entrenched, Ebola could not have found a more promising venue.

The initial U.S. response to the presence of one case has been shambolic; clearly the “long peace” in which killer epidemics were rare has left our health system unprepared for the kind of threat Ebola represents.

We have to hope now that public health authorities here, in Europe and in other countries will demonstrate the focused dedication needed for an extended period in which the threat of a global outbreak of Ebola is real. But even under the best case scenarios, it will take months before the disease is under control and during all that time the epidemic will be knocking on our door, and on the doors of many other countries around the world.

There is some hope that Ebola will have a harder time spreading outside of West Africa if only because public health systems are better elsewhere and burial customs are different. We are not yet facing a killer pandemic worldwide.
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Re: Ebola -- International Security Measures Fail
« Reply #58 on: October 22, 2014, 07:30:27 »
And the not too surprising and troublong reason that the response in the United States is so confused is the politicisation of formerly "professional" bureaucracies like the CDC. The profile of the current CDC director is quite troubling, especially since his record prior to becoming the director should have raised alarm bells:

http://www.city-journal.org/2014/eon1020sm.html#.VEW5RvvCKrs.twitter

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The Obama administration got exactly what it bargained for with Tom Frieden.

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Just months after the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center, Dr. Thomas Frieden arrived in New York from India, where he was helping to fight tuberculosis, to interview for the job of New York City health commissioner. When asked what his top priority would be if he got the job, Frieden startled interviewers by proclaiming, “Tobacco.” With fears widespread about America’s vulnerability to biological terrorism—especially in the aftermath of the anthrax letters, which killed five people not long after 9/11—one interviewee asked: “Tom, have you heard of 9/11?” Frieden answered: “Bioterrorists are not going to kill more New Yorkers than tobacco is.”

Frieden was right, more than a decade ago, that the effects of smoking killed far more people than bio-terrorism (or Ebola, for that matter). But his response was troubling nonetheless because of the way Frieden conflated use of tobacco—a legal substance whose ill effects are well known to those who choose to use it—with the death that terrorists (or highly infectious diseases) might rain down on innocent people. Frieden’s retort said much about the evolution of public-health medicine over the decades into a field more concerned with the choices people make than with the scourge of infectious diseases. His answer also helped clarify how Frieden himself would eventually operate as New York City health commissioner. His tenure was marked by a series of health crusades aimed at so-called “lifestyle diseases” based on dubious evidence.

Frieden is now perhaps the most visible example of the transformation of the field of public health—for better or for worse. Until recently, that arena owed a great debt to the English epidemiologist John Snow, who correctly deduced that the London cholera epidemic of 1854 was caused by contaminated water from the Broad Street pump. Shutting down the pump not only stemmed the tide of the epidemic, but also convinced public officials to undertake construction of sewage and clean-water systems that would effectively end the spread of water-borne epidemics. Encouraged by a series of discoveries of the germ basis of many devastating diseases, researchers in the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries made other rapid advancements in public health, including the development of vaccines against some of humanity’s deadliest diseases and techniques such as the pasteurization of milk to stem bacterial contaminations. Through these advances, industrialized nations like the United States have completely eliminated such once-deadly diseases as smallpox, diphtheria, and polio, vastly cutting childhood mortality rates and increasing lifespans.

But as the impact of communicable diseases has lessened, public-health medicine—which concerns itself with community-wide solutions to health problems—began to look more intensely at treating and preventing conditions that don’t originate with germs. The focus of researchers and doctors turned especially to conditions thought to underlie cardiovascular disease. But unlike battles against germs, isolating the key cause of such problems has proved elusive, because multiple factors—from genetics to diet to personal habits, like smoking—are all potentially contribute.

Advocates like Frieden have plunged ahead anyway, sometimes proposing simplistic solutions to complex problems, often without much data to back up their claims. As New York City’s health commissioner, Frieden engineered a law requiring food chains to post calorie counts on menus, though there was no evidence that the availability of such information has any effect on eating habits. (Comment by me: Actually it isn't calories, but carbohydrates Frieden also led a campaign to cut salt consumption despite studies that had shown, in fact, that some individuals fared poorly on a salt-restricted diet. Frieden’s campaign led one world-renown hypertension expert to proclaim that New York was attempting to engineer a giant uncontrolled experiment. As time passed, Frieden’s practice of recommending sometimes outrageous solutions to health problems based on few facts grew more disconcerting. In 2007, he even proposed a campaign to persuade uncircumcised adult men in New York to get circumcised to reduce their risk to HIV; a study in Africa had concluded that the practice helped lower infections there. But Frieden’s proposal was widely derided and quickly dismissed because of the vast differences between the two populations and the preliminary nature of the research.

Given his specialty in infectious diseases, Frieden would have seemed well- prepared to deal with the swine flu outbreak that hit New York in the spring of 2009. And indeed, in the days after the first reports of actual cases here, Frieden seemed to inspire confidence, at least at the New York Times. In an early profile of Frieden that seemed more like a chapter out of Lives of the Saints, a Times reporter noted the doctor’s “passionate rectitude” and described him as a “boyish figure in the dark suit,” who announced daily updates on the flu “in the meticulous, benevolent tones of the trusted family doctor.” The problem was that at this point, just four days after the first reported local cases, Frieden hadn’t accomplished much beyond reading the daily tally.

The situation quickly spun out of control. The city kept open schools where students had contracted the swine flu, and it spread rapidly among kids and staff. One victim, a 55-year-old assistant principal at a hard-hit Queens school, slipped into critical condition and died in mid-May. The victim’s wife criticized the city for underestimating the severity of the outbreak, and some of the school’s staffers told the press that they had pushed the city to close it for a week. But “nobody listened. We had kids dropping like flies,” a school official told the New York Post. Even the Times weighted in with the troubling headline, NO GUIDANCE ON HOW TO REIN IN THE FLU. City officials defended their decisions, saying that they had deferred to the CDC’s guidelines on when to close a school after an outbreak, but Mayor Bloomberg told the Times, “There’s no right answer.” In an accompanying story, the Times said that the outbreak tested “Bloomberg’s political skills” but said nothing about the role of the point man on the issue, the health commissioner it had so effusively praised a few weeks earlier. The city eventually estimated that somewhere between 750,000 and 1 million New Yorkers caught the swine flu; 54 people died from it.

Meantime, however, President Obama had already selected Frieden to run the CDC, though he had yet to depart New York. Nothing about his handling of the swine flu epidemic kept him from getting the federal job. A Times story on the appointment quoted a public-health expert calling Frieden a “transformational” figure, a clear reference to his crusades in Gotham. Frieden had been a leading candidate for the CDC job, in part because his agenda seemed to dovetail with the Obama administration’s notions of where public health should go, as reflected by Michelle Obama’s controversial efforts to reshape school lunch programs. The day after Frieden’s appointment, newspapers in New York featured headlines like OUTRAGE OVER RESPONSE TO FLU. Yet no one in Washington seemed troubled.

One of Frieden’s tasks at the CDC was the reorganization and revitalization of the agency. (Stories had characterized it as demoralized, thanks to supposedly unpopular appointments made during the Bush years.) But under Frieden’s leadership, the CDC has underestimated the Ebola virus’s ability to infect those who come in contact with it and ineffectively communicated to health-care workers the proper protocols for dealing with sick patients. The agency told Amber Vinson, a Dallas nurse who had cared for Ebola patient Thomas Duncan, that it was okay to board a plane with a low-grade fever; Frieden later said that Vinson, who is now being treated for Ebola, never should have done so. When President Obama told Africans in a video message that they couldn’t get Ebola from sitting next to someone on a bus, Frieden was asked to clarify. His response only confused matters further: “If you’re a member of the traveling public and are healthy, should you be worried that you might have gotten it by sitting next to someone? And the answer is no. Second, if you are sick and you may have Ebola, should you get on a bus? And the answer to that is also no. You might become ill, you might have a problem that exposes someone around you.” Under fire, President Obama has appointed an “Ebola czar” to coordinate the government’s response: Ron Klain, a lawyer and political operative with zero experience in infectious diseases.

The mainstream press has seemed mystified by Frieden’s performance. In large part that’s because of the Times-supported fiction that Frieden led an effective campaign against the swine flu in New York. In August, NBC News even described Frieden as “the face of the American public health system . . . trying to calm nerves . . . doing it with the cold, procedural focus of a scientific investigator.” But the truth is that by appointing Frieden, the Obama administration got exactly what it wanted, and there’s nothing baffling about his failures.

Steven Malanga is the senior editor of City Journal and a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute. His latest book is Shakedown: The Continuing Conspiracy Against the American Taxpayer.
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Re: Ebola -- International Security Measures Fail
« Reply #59 on: October 22, 2014, 09:49:25 »
how about one of these great cures for Ebola? Profiting from the endless supply of stupidity out there.

http://factually.gizmodo.com/6-fake-ebola-cures-being-promoted-online-1642118276

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U.S. "Prof": Ebola a hoak to justify martial law
« Reply #60 on: October 26, 2014, 23:53:05 »
Ah, now that I've read Iranian media, NOW I get it ....
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The Ebola outbreak is a hoax which is being perpetrated on the American people to justify imposing martial law in the United States, a political commentator in California says.

In an interview with Press TV on Sunday, Professor James Henry Fetzer said, “The situation with Ebola is very strange indeed, because there are multiple indications that it’s some kind of fraud or hoax or scam being perpetrated on the American people.”

“There’s a new Ebola false-flag exposed, compilations of evidence [are] available on YouTube now,” he added.

A nurse who just returned from Sierra Leone has condemned the US government for a 21-day mandatory quarantine despite testing negative for the Ebola virus.

Kaci Hickox said in an article on Saturday that she was “made to feel like criminal,” after she was placed in quarantine at a New Jersey hospital upon her return from West Africa.

On Friday, New Jersey Governor Chris Christie and New York Governor Andrew Cuomo announced a new policy, which requires those who had contact with Ebola patients to go through mandatory isolation for three weeks ....
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Re: Ebola -- International Security Measures Fail
« Reply #61 on: October 27, 2014, 00:17:55 »
It doesn't help that the politicians are using it as an election issue in the final weeks of the midterms.

The GOP are playing the fear card, with some of the more extreme right making outright false statements.

The media is playing up every reported instance and treating it like the opening phase of a new war, or covering medical convoys carrying patients like they did with OJ in his Bronco.

Dems can't figure out how to counter the fear mongering.

Poll numbers show that this will be a major issue in the final run to Nov. 5th. ISIS / ISIL not so much. Ebola is here, Terrorists are over there.
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Re: Ebola -- International Security Measures Fail
« Reply #62 on: October 28, 2014, 10:19:28 »
It will be cheaper to put people up for 21 days in a specially prepared facility and pay them than to try to track down people they were in contact with. If you go to such a place even to do good, you should realize that reducing the risk upon your return to your home, family and friends is an important part of it.

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US Army Isolates General and Soldiers Returning from West Africa
« Reply #63 on: October 28, 2014, 10:32:05 »
Speaking of the the general and some soldiers who might have been infected while serving with the contingent in West Africa:

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Army Isolates General and Soldiers Returning from West Africa

Oct 27, 2014 | by Richard Sisk
The two-star Army general and members of his staff who led the initial military efforts against Ebola in West Africa have been isolated on post as they returned to Italy, the Pentagon said Monday.

Maj. Gen. Darryl Williams, the commander of U.S. Army Africa, and 11 soldiers on his staff were taken to a building on the U.S. base at Vicenza, Italy, where they will be held in isolation for as long as 30 days on orders of the Department of the Army, the Pentagon said.

Army Col. Steve Warren, a Pentagon spokesman, did not use the word "quarantine" to describe the status of Williams and his troops, but said they were undergoing "enhanced monitoring" and were not allowed to leave the building or have contact with family members.

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Re: Ebola -- International Security Measures Fail
« Reply #64 on: October 28, 2014, 17:16:18 »
Personally, I think the nurse who kicked up crap about quarantine should be slapped. She should understand the risk, and appreciate that some inconvenience on her part may be the thing that keeps other safe. If I were in her shoes I would have expected to go into quarantine.
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Re: Ebola -- International Security Measures Fail
« Reply #65 on: October 29, 2014, 20:39:15 »
Modeling of the crisis is not providing any comforting answers. Of course the disjointed and frankly confusing responses to the crisis are not helping at all:

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn26448-future-scenarios-show-how-easily-ebola-could-explode.html?cmpid=RSS|NSNS|2012-GLOBAL|online-news#.VFGHlr5BBIB

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Just how bad will the Ebola outbreak in West Africa get? There have been predictions: 20,000 cases by November; more than a million by January. But these are milestones. No one has said how many cases there might be in total by the time the epidemic peaks and tails off, once everyone in reach has been exposed to the virus.

That is because mathematical models of epidemics are notoriously bad at accounting for the uncertainties in such predictions, such as how people's behaviour changes as an epidemic progresses. But a new model by David Fisman and Ashleigh Tuite of the University of Toronto in Canada – the first to take account of efforts to fight infections – suggests that if things continue as they have been up until now, 700,000 people could have had the virus by the time the epidemic in Liberia, Guinea and Sierra Leone subsides – in early 2016.

Fisman's prediction is based on reported cases of Ebola. (The previous prediction of more than a million cases by this coming January had assumed that the actual number of cases is 2.5 times the reported cases, so the same multiplier could be applied to Fisman's figure.) Importantly, he can track whether efforts to limit contagion grow in proportion with the epidemic. So far, the data from West Africa suggest that this is in fact happening. But if anything happens to slow that fight, his model suggests that total cases could balloon to many millions.

Climbing exponentially

Other epidemiologists are putting numbers on what many have been saying for months now – that in many ways, the response to the epidemic is too little, too late. But while that may be true, Fisman's model suggests that efforts so far are nevertheless making a big difference.

On 23 October the World Health Organization declared that the epidemic is still growing exponentially. It is worst in Monrovia, the capital of Liberia. Alison Galvani and her colleagues at Yale University used standard epidemiological models to calculate the impact there of various additional measures to slow the epidemic.

They calculated that, from a start date of 15 October, if more infected people had been found, and treatment centres had been built in which to isolate them, 50,000 to 120,000 of the 170,000 new Ebola cases expected in Monrovia by mid-December could have been averted. That's around the time the epidemic hits the steep rise of the exponential curve. But as the total number of cases climbs, the ability of each measure to avert cases became smaller: applying the same measures starting 31 October or 15 November averted far fewer cases.

Galvani's model's closest approximation of the WHO's current target – isolating 70 per cent of infected people by 1 December – averts 60,000 cases, she says, but only if dozens more treatment centres are built in Monrovia soon. Otherwise, the cases averted plummet to just 5000. The US military's 17 new treatment units, to cover all of Liberia won't open for "a few weeks".

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But Fisman's work shows that even the measures taken so far have been worthwhile. In a commentary with Galvani's report, he says it has been hard to predict how big epidemics will get, because they often decelerate faster than their initial growth suggests.

Fisman observes how epidemics slow during the first six or so "generations" of spread from person to person, and calculated a new "discounting" term to account for this in models. For this term to stay constant, efforts that slow spread must increase in proportion to the epidemic. In West Africa, they have. "We keep rechecking [the new term] every 15 days, and it's been rock solid." Each case now spreads Ebola to fewer people than at the start of the epidemic. It's just not slowing fast enough, he says.

Meanwhile, the predictions of Fisman's model are so far closely tracking the fast-growing Ebola epidemic – at least in terms of cases reported. "Empirically this just works, and freakishly well for forecasting," says Fisman.

Moreover, he modelled what would happen if efforts to control the disease faltered, which could happen as a result of civil disturbance as cases mount. Such faltering would mean the discounting term shrinks. A 40 per cent reduction in the term made predicted Ebola cases balloon from 700,000 to 12 million. Because this is a derived term, it's hard to know how it translates to what's happening on the ground. But one thing is clear – small changes in how we respond have big effects, says Fisman.

More optimistically, if currently experimental drugs and vaccines work against Ebola, significant quantities should become available in 2015, when the model says the epidemic will peak. This could lead to a much faster decline in cases than currently predicted.

Representatives of the GlaxoSmithKline, meeting with WHO officials in Geneva this week, say that by December 2015 they should be able to make a million doses of vaccine a month.

Journal reference: Galvani et al,The Lancet: Infectious Disease, DOI: 10.1016/S1473-3099(14)70995-8. Comment piece by David Fisman and Ashleigh Tuite, DOI: 10.1016/S1473-3099(14)70851-5
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US military names 5 bases for isolating returning Ebola mission troops
« Reply #66 on: November 08, 2014, 11:10:00 »
Let's hope none of these returning troops who pass through these bases are actually infected...

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Associated Press | Nov 07, 2014 | by Lolita C. Baldor
WASHINGTON — The top U.S. military officer has designated five U.S. bases where American troops would be housed and isolated for 21 days upon returning from Africa after serving in the Ebola response mission, U.S. officials said Friday.

Army Gen. Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, signed a plan that lists Fort Hood and Fort Bliss, Texas; Fort Bragg, North Carolina; Joint Base Lewis-McChord, Washington; and Joint Base Langley-Eustis, Virginia, as bases where troops would be quarantined. The U.S. also hopes to use two bases in Italy and Germany for returning troops based in that region.

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Re: Ebola -- International Security Measures Fail
« Reply #67 on: November 08, 2014, 11:56:15 »
Closer to home.

"On Monday, October 27, eight Toronto Paramedics tabled what is known as a “work refusal.” Their concerns were all related to training and equipment to be used in the treatment of patients who might be suspected of having Ebola."
http://m.citynews.ca/2014/10/29/toronto-paramedics-walk-off-job-over-lagging-ebola-preparedness/


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Re: Ebola: outbreak, Canadian/other response (merged)
« Reply #68 on: November 28, 2014, 14:34:01 »
Interesting...maybe after all that time asking to go there with OP REPTILE, I'll get tapped.  Oh right, I'm not Reg Force anymore...
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Re: Ebola: outbreak, Canadian/other response (merged)
« Reply #69 on: November 28, 2014, 14:57:30 »
Interesting...maybe after all that time asking to go there with OP REPTILE, I'll get tapped.  Oh right, I'm not Reg Force anymore ....
Oh well, there's always the next round of pestilence to look forward to, right?  ;D

Meanwhile, more on the Op name - apparently based on a Celtic goddess of healing (and hot springs).
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Re: Ebola: outbreak, Canadian/other response (merged)
« Reply #70 on: December 01, 2014, 21:53:44 »
More on how this is getting out of control. A mere handful of patients has created the need for contact tracing and monitoring of over a thousand Americans. This has been kept out of the news until now (as Glen Reynolds, the Instapundit suggests cynically, the "Ebola Czar" is doing his real job here)

http://sharylattkisson.com/cdc-more-than-1400-people-in-u-s-being-actively-monitored-for-ebola

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CDC: More Than 1,400 People in U.S. Being Actively Monitored for Ebola

The killer virus Ebola may not be front and center in the news, but it’s still in the forefront of efforts by health officials nationwide. As of today, more than 1,400 people in 44 states in the U.S. are being actively monitored by state and local health departments after returning from West Africa. The good news is that no new cases have been reported in the U.S. since Oct. 23.

According to the Centers for Disease Control, which provided the figure,

“They are being monitored because they came from one of the four countries with ongoing Ebola outbreaks.”

Responding to a public outcry, the Department of Homeland Security began, on Oct. 22, requiring all U.S. bound passengers from the primary Ebola-infected West African nations to arrive at one of five U.S. airports with enhanced screening.

To date, ten people have been treated for Ebola in the U.S. since late September.

More than 1,400 people in 44 states in the U.S. are being actively monitored for Ebola–CDC
Patients with Ebola Brought to U.S.

A total of six people have been brought to the U.S. after contracting Ebola in West Africa: five healthcare workers and one photojournalist. The photojournalist is 33-year old Ashoka Mukpo. All but one survived. Dr. Martin Salia, a legal permanent resident of the U.S., was already critically ill when he arrived from Sierra Leone for treatment at Nebraska Medical Center in Omaha. He died just a few days later on Nov. 17. Officials say they don’t know exactly how he contracted the virus.

Ebola Cases Diagnosed in the U.S.

A total of four people have been diagnosed with Ebola in the U.S. since Sept. 30. All of them recovered except one.

September 30, 2014 – CDC confirmed the first laboratory-confirmed case of Ebola to be diagnosed in the United States in Thomas Eric Duncan who had traveled to Dallas, Texas from Liberia. Local public health officials identified all of Duncan’s close contacts for daily monitoring for 21 days after exposure. Duncan died on Oct. 8. By Nov. 7, all of his close contacts had completed the 21-day monitoring period.

October 10, 2014 – Nina Pham, a 26-year old nurse who cared for Duncan at Texas Presbyterian Hospital tested positive for Ebola and was taken to the National Institutes for Health (NIH) Clinical Center. She recovered and was discharged on Oct. 24.

October 15, 2014 – Amber Vinson, a 29-year old nurse, became the second of Duncan’s health care workers to test positive for Ebola and was taken to Emory Hospital in Atlanta, Georgia. She had flown from Dallas to Cleveland on Oct. 10, and from Cleveland to Dallas on Oct. 13. CDC officials say they “worked to ensure that all passengers and crew on the two flights were contacted by public health professionals to answer their questions and arrange follow up as necessary.” The patient recovered and was discharged Oct. 28 and all monitored passengers completed monitoring by Nov. 3.

October 23, 2014 – The New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene reported Ebola in Dr. Craig Spencer, a medical aid worker who had returned to New York City from Guinea, where he served with Doctors Without Borders. He recovered and was discharged from Bellevue Hospital Center Nov. 11. No cases developed from outings he’d made in New York prior to being admitted to the hospital with a fever.
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Re: Ebola: outbreak, Canadian/other response (merged)
« Reply #71 on: December 10, 2014, 16:08:14 »
Interesting...maybe after all that time asking to go there with OP REPTILE, I'll get tapped.  Oh right, I'm not Reg Force anymore...

the feds are asking for volunteers

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Re: Ebola: outbreak, Canadian/other response (merged)
« Reply #72 on: December 11, 2014, 02:50:51 »
Watch and shoot...my CoC is aware  :)

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Re: Ebola: outbreak, Canadian/other response (merged)
« Reply #73 on: December 21, 2014, 22:10:25 »
And the news keeps getting worse. The amount of resources needed to keep this in check is going to be mush larger than any nation or even group of nations has available (and what are you going to do when the health workers refuse to go to work for fear of being infected?)

http://www.capitalotc.com/the-ebola-outbreak-keeps-spreading-like-wildfire-in-west-africa/26739/

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The Ebola Outbreak Keeps Spreading Like Wildfire In West Africa
By Alex Hull   / December 21, 2014 at 14:33

The Ebola outbreak keeps spreading like wildfire in West Africa, the total number of deaths reaching 7,000, according to the World Health Organization. This new peak was disclosed by the organization on Saturday, while United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon was carrying out his visit through the nations affected by Ebola in the area.

Most of the recent deaths were registered in Sierra Leone.  According to WHO data, the three states that have been hit the hardest by the outbreak already registered 7,373 casualties since Wednesday when their number was 6,900.  Sierra Leone, where Ebola seems to have the quickest spreading rate, counted a total of 392 of the new deaths in the last few days.

According to the WHO, one death in United States, eight in Nigeria and six deaths in Mali were also recorded. The grand total of Ebola infections in Guinea, Sierra Leone and Liberia now settled at 19,031, up from 18,569.

Medical staff and volunteers were carrying thermometers and sanitizers at staffed surveying stations all over Liberia on Saturday, as citizens cast their votes in a twice-deferred Senate election.  The organization of elections in this period in Liberia has been harshly criticized due to the health risks it might involve, as it could further spread the dangerous Ebola virus.

Enlisted voters were expected to cast their votes for the 139 candidates joining the Senate race all through the nation.  According to Jerome Korkoya, executive of the National Elections Commission, the turnout was rather low. The illness seems to have decelerated lately in Liberia, but critics still contended that it was unclear whether the elections could be carried out securely.

The UN Secretary arrived in Guinea on Saturday after visiting Liberia and Sierra Leone a day before.  The first Ebola cases were confirmed in Guinea this March.  Ban Ki-moon expressed his concerns about the circumstances in the nation’s southeast woodland area, where, according to him, the number of contaminated individuals appears to keep growing. The given area is at the border with Liberia, Sierra Leone and the Ivory Coast.  For that reason, Ban advised the three countries try and come up with a cross- border cooperation framework, to contain the outbreak.

He ensured authorities of the UN’s and the organization’s partners support for fighting Ebola in the region but also insisted that all Guineans should strive to stop Ebola from spreading.
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Re: Ebola: outbreak, Canadian/other response (merged)
« Reply #74 on: December 23, 2014, 19:00:21 »
Government happy to have government workers head over to help with Ebola - on their own time, of course.
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The federal government isn’t taking its share of responsibility for the injury or death of public servants who answer its recruitment call for volunteers to help fight the deadly Ebola virus in West Africa, the federal unions say.

The unions representing the health-care workers and other bureaucrats who might volunteer say the government shirked its responsibilities as employer by shifting the health and safety of its employees to the Canadian Red Cross.

“You would think they want to provide the maximum protection to their employees” rather than putting the onus on the Red Cross, said Ron Cochrane, co-chair of the joint-union management National Joint Council. “They don’t want the risk and it’s like they are taking the cheap way.”

The Red Cross wants to recruit 90 doctors, nurses and other medical specialists, deploying 10 to 15 volunteers a month. So far, 150 interested Canadians have applied, more than 30 of them public servants.

The Conservative government bills itself as a leader in the battle against Ebola. Treasury Board originally asked the 17 public service unions to partner with the government and Red Cross for the launch of a campaign to recruit medical specialists for the affected areas.

The unions were keen – until they learned the public servants who volunteer will be going to West Africa on “leave with pay.” That raised concerns the volunteers wouldn’t get the extra benefits and insurance coverage the government normally pays when active-duty employees are sent to dangerous or conflict zones ....
I wonder if anyone's bonus is affected if nobody from the public service decides to go with the Red Cross?
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