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Re: Critical Injury Benefit
« Reply #50 on: August 11, 2015, 13:39:01 »
Nothing new to report. They are trying to move through the CIBs quickly, but there is a file backlog in Adjudication as it is.
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Re: Critical Injury Benefit
« Reply #51 on: August 12, 2015, 18:54:26 »
I asked if VAC had a timeline for decisions for the CIB and I was told they are aiming for 12 weeks.

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Re: Critical Injury Benefit
« Reply #52 on: August 18, 2015, 14:59:09 »
I've got an update that is just so typical VAC lol.

Applied online and you can't sign your app online (obviously ). So I submitted the form, then sent a msg thru my VAC acct, askin if that was a problem or if I should send in a hard copy. Yup, no worries they said.

And so, of course, today I get a letter with my app printed off, and a note asking me to sign it and send it back.

I'm sure this will restart my clock. ******* VAC. Is not applying THOUGHT your my vac acct the same (legally) as signing it?

So frustrating.

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Re: Critical Injury Benefit
« Reply #53 on: August 19, 2015, 22:40:54 »
I've got an update that is just so typical VAC lol.

Applied online and you can't sign your app online (obviously ). So I submitted the form, then sent a msg thru my VAC acct, askin if that was a problem or if I should send in a hard copy. Yup, no worries they said.

And so, of course, today I get a letter with my app printed off, and a note asking me to sign it and send it back.

I'm sure this will restart my clock. ******* VAC. Is not applying THOUGHT your my vac acct the same (legally) as signing it?

So frustrating.

There is a note at the bottom before submitting online that says submitting through my VAC account will count as signing the form. So not sure why they would require a signature  :dunno:

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Re: Critical Injury Benefit
« Reply #54 on: August 21, 2015, 09:27:11 »
Jesus H-C

I'm going to print off my submitted application sign it and scan it back in so they cant play that game with me.

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Re: Critical Injury Benefit
« Reply #55 on: August 22, 2015, 18:05:02 »
The only somewhat silver lining is the included envelope  had a return address went straight to the adjudicators in Montreal.

Maybe they'll keep my place in line, who knows

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Re: Critical Injury Benefit
« Reply #56 on: August 31, 2015, 12:30:59 »
Do you have a sitrep Rob?
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Re: Critical Injury Benefit
« Reply #57 on: August 31, 2015, 14:35:12 »
I called in for my bi-monthly update on my various claims / applications.

The update on CIB was interesting, I got a newer person on the phone which was nice as she did not stone wall me as much as the more experienced ones, she provided my timeline thus far:

CIB Submitted July 3rd

Summary of application prepared for adjudicators July 20th

Adjudication started in on the file on August 19th.

Te meet the service standard a decision would have to be reached by Sept 11th.

She also mentioned that no CIB's have been granted yet, although a lot have been rejected and she noted that since eligibility is so clear that rejections happen quickly.

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Re: Critical Injury Benefit
« Reply #58 on: September 14, 2015, 12:59:13 »
So has anyone been approved for this yet?

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Re: Critical Injury Benefit
« Reply #59 on: September 16, 2015, 20:34:20 »
Same song and dance, mine was due on Sept 11th, so I called in for an update yesterday. And I got the typical - "Well... yes, you submitted everything on July 3rd, but we didn't get everything put together for adjudication until August 20th so its not technically overdue, call back in a Month". Insert Xanax here.

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Re: Critical Injury Benefit
« Reply #60 on: October 06, 2015, 13:48:26 »
Is it just the three of us moving through this process? Any updates from anyone?

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Re: Critical Injury Benefit
« Reply #61 on: October 06, 2015, 14:24:22 »
Just spoke with VAC favourable decision made as of Oct 5th. Applied on the 14th of July.

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Re: Critical Injury Benefit
« Reply #62 on: October 07, 2015, 00:09:07 »
Just spoke with VAC favourable decision made as of Oct 5th. Applied on the 14th of July.

Congrats.

Mind saying what was your specific case (minus any personal/uncomfortable details of course)?


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Re: Critical Injury Benefit
« Reply #63 on: October 07, 2015, 09:41:46 »
Wow, congrats indeed!

I applied on July 3rd, and they are feeding me a line because it took them until August 19th to transfer the file to adjudication my decision isnt due until November 11th. - Fitting day.
Which is odd because they had every drip of information, there was nothing to be provided.

Either way congrats again! Did you get the letter yet, or did they disclose the decision over the phone?

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Re: Critical Injury Benefit
« Reply #64 on: October 07, 2015, 17:33:41 »
I had called my case manager for an update and was told that way. I have not recieved anything by mail yet so will let you know any info once I get it.

Rob most of my injuries came from a suicide bomber who also had ball bearings on a foot patrol. Multiple injuries to both legs a wound to my bowel and a ball bearing that hit me in the neck which is believed to have shocked my spinal cord and caused temporary paralysis and nerve damage. One doctor put as like having a stroke to one side of my body. Was in hospital for a total of about 5 months.

How I fit the criteria I'm guessing because of being in the ICU longer than what the criteria states and since I couldn't move for a few months required assistance in everything and afterwards required assistance at home.

Hopefully your guys decision is coming in the next few days. I was told that the adjudicators are busy not just due to the amount of work but also because they are training some of the new staff that has been hired.

However PIA is still in progress and about 2 months over due.

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Re: Critical Injury Benefit
« Reply #65 on: October 08, 2015, 00:39:11 »
That sounds incredibly familiar, are you from Northern Ontario?

When it's all said and done that would be great to know how long it took to process payment,!if you had to do the silly 888 forms ect.

Thanks again, glad you are getting a little extra for what sounds like something very painful

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Re: Critical Injury Benefit
« Reply #66 on: October 08, 2015, 04:05:54 »
This benefit is definitely going to present the department with problems. The criteria of 'suddenness' is going to result in some veterans receiving significantly more money than others for similar medical outcomes, because one person suffers their 'critical injury/illness' in a sudden manner whereas for someone else it develops more slowly. I know this has been brought to the attention of VAC staff at the policy making level; I'll be curious to hear once the election side show it out of the way whether this is being revisited at all. Someone who is hurt in an IED blast, by a gunshot, or in a LAV rollover is very clearly injured in a sudden enough manner, whereas someone who develops cancer over the course of a few years because of some sort of toxic exposure or who develops several back issues after years of parachute jumps is not. We will see soldiers as severely debilitated by more gradual, progressive injuries or illnesses as those who are injured or sicked much more rapidly, but only some will qualify for the benefit. We'll probably see this one go to court over something like someone who becomes ill as a result of shipboard firefighting or something like that.

Hopefully the department can reevaluate this benefit. The entire benefits package needs to be rewritten and harmonized, but the CIB 'bump to the lump' is a poorly executed plan that was meiocre to begin with.
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Re: Critical Injury Benefit
« Reply #67 on: October 08, 2015, 10:40:53 »
Agreed Brihard. I believe the benefit was created simply for Afghan vets and not really those that get an illness or have serious issues that develop over the long term. I saw a member can't remember what illness he had but it was slowly deteriorating him over time where he could do less and less and eventually ended up in a wheelchair and requires daily assistance. Now the way the criteria is laid out I don't think he will qualify because it is something that has gotten worse over time. IMO those are the soldiers that deserve the benefit just as much as the guy that was seriously injured.

Dunlop not from Northern ON but closer to the GTA.

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Re: Critical Injury Benefit
« Reply #68 on: October 09, 2015, 12:51:03 »
A reminder to folks who receive an unfavourable decision regarding their CIB application. Those decisions fall under Part 3 of the NVC, and therefore "enjoy" (used very loosely) appeal rights to the Veterans Review and Appeal Board.
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Re: Critical Injury Benefit
« Reply #69 on: October 10, 2015, 16:33:17 »
I saw a member can't remember what illness he had but it was slowly deteriorating him over time where he could do less and less and eventually ended up in a wheelchair and requires daily assistance. Now the way the criteria is laid out I don't think he will qualify because it is something that has gotten worse over time.

I would say the way the criteria is laid out, there is no way he would qualify.

Its definitely unfair. The criteria require both a "sudden" injury as well as pretty specific times for hospitalization.

I was flown into Role 4 in a black hawk off of Highway #1 outside of Kandahar and I doubt that I'll qualify, due to not being hospitalized long enough.

Well, I MIGHT if they consider role 4 an ICU, but somehow, I doubt it.

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Re: Critical Injury Benefit
« Reply #70 on: October 22, 2015, 15:32:44 »
Teager did you get paid yet? Anyone else hear anything?

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Re: Critical Injury Benefit
« Reply #71 on: October 22, 2015, 15:43:09 »
Teager did you get paid yet? Anyone else hear anything?

Haven't even recieved the letter yet. Don't get why the letter is taking so long. Hoping it will be here tomorrow or next week sometime.

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Re: Critical Injury Benefit
« Reply #72 on: October 22, 2015, 20:23:02 »
Scratch my previous. I was paid today via direct deposit. No letter as of yet tho.

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Re: Critical Injury Benefit
« Reply #73 on: October 23, 2015, 11:25:12 »
Oh good, so no Vac 888 form on this one then

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Re: Critical Injury Benefit
« Reply #74 on: November 02, 2015, 13:52:11 »
Decision is due next week, based on VAC's wonky calcs at least. I submitted the application on July 3rd, but they didn't transfer anything over to adjudication until Aug 20th or so.
I don't agree, but they state that their service standard does not start to countdown until that point. Is anyone else awaiting a decision?