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"Canadian Coast Guard Going Down"
« on: April 05, 2016, 16:17:17 »
Note further links at post based on CP story:

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Our politicians and media largely ignore–unlike their constant focus on military procurements–our mostly silent (civilian) service, to its great detriment. Now the awful facts described in a major government report tabled in February are reported...
https://cgai3ds.wordpress.com/2016/04/05/mark-collins-canadian-coast-guard-going-down/

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Re: "Canadian Coast Guard Going Down"
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2016, 11:19:32 »
Toronto Star weighs in:

Rescue Canada’s floundering coast guard: Editorial
The Canadian Coast Guard is in dire straits due to aging ships and understaffing. It's vital that the federal government respond.

http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorials/2016/04/08/rescue-canadas-floundering-coast-guard-editorial.html

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Re: "Canadian Coast Guard Going Down"
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2016, 14:07:12 »
Lack of funding, a senior management that is more less dysfunctional, a bias against anyone not from the college and coming up the hawsepipe in regards to supporting their career advancement. The management is slowly slitting their own throats in regards to doing little out of their mandate. When you try to get a tasking they make it very difficult, once they even wanted to bill us the entire cost of the ship, when we offered to cover any excess cost like OT and fuel. It was cheaper to hire a charter crew boat. It's not the crews, they love to get out and do new things and go new places. Most of the initiatives you see like diving, swimmer, rescue specialist were driven by the crew members and not the management or senior officers. CCG has some great talent and dedicated crews despite the organization, not because of it.   

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Re: "Canadian Coast Guard Going Down"
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2016, 14:33:25 »
Wow sounds like every other Canadian Gov. agency.
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Re: "Canadian Coast Guard Going Down"
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2016, 16:34:54 »
38 year-old icebreaker CCGS Pierre Radisson to be modernized--note final para on what is done in the winter:

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ABB Breathes New Life into Canadian Icebreaker

ABB modernization to extend service of 38-year-old Canadian Coast Guard Icebreaker; upgrade includes improved connectivity and eight new drives

ABB will modernize a Canadian Coast Guard icebreaker, installing the latest hardware and software onboard the 38 year old Pierre Radisson. As part of the complete upgrade to the ship’s power distribution system, eight new drives will also be installed. The contract includes the option to modernize the other two Coast Guard ships, Des Groseilliers and Amundsen, both of which have clocked up more than 30 years of service…

Design and supply work is scheduled to begin immediately and installation and commissioning is expected to be finished by June 2017. In winter, the Pierre Radisson breaks ice and escorts ships in the Gulf of St. Lawrence and on the St. Lawrence and Saguenay Rivers. In summer, the ship travels to the Canadian Arctic to escort commercial ships, serve as a primary search and rescue unit and provide support to scientific missions when possible…”
http://www.marinelink.com/news/icebreaker-breathes408440.aspx

Keep ’em going to the half century or something as only that one new one is planned.

Work likely to be done at Davie, Quebec:
http://www.45enord.ca/2015/07/un-contrat-de-16-millions-a-la-davie-pour-moderniser-le-navire-de-la-garde-cotiere-henry-larsen/

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Re: "Canadian Coast Guard Going Down"
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2016, 13:00:31 »
Davie proposal may still be alive:

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Davie Québec Wants to Build Icebreaker for, Unload Other Vessels on, Canadian Coast Guard, Part 2

Further to this post with lots of detail on the pitch and in which I wrote…
https://cgai3ds.wordpress.com/2016/03/11/mark-collins-davie-quebec-wants-to-build-icebreaker-for-unload-other-vessels-on-canadian-coast-guard/
 
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 The CCG could certainly use a new polar icebreaker before 2022 and the other vessels Davie has been put forward could well be welcome (see the 2013 situation here: “The Poor Canadian Coast Guard, or, Read Our Lips…)…"

it now looks as if the Davie idea may not be dead...
https://cgai3ds.wordpress.com/2016/07/27/mark-collins-davie-quebec-wants-to-build-icebreaker-for-unload-other-vessels-on-canadian-coast-guard-part-2/

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Re: "Canadian Coast Guard Going Down"
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2016, 11:42:31 »
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Re: "Canadian Coast Guard Going Down"
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2016, 14:07:22 »
I'd be all for leasing icebreakers.  There's no way we can buy enough in time given the timeline.

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Re: "Canadian Coast Guard Going Down"
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2016, 16:44:07 »
http://m.thechronicleherald.ca/novascotia/1386349-crew-shortage-ties-up-coast-guard

*I haven't posted a link to a story before, sorry if I didn't do it correctly.


Doesn't seem to be a super urgent matter.  It really does illuminate the contrast between the Canadian Coast Guard and the US Coast Guard in terms of structure, staffing, etc. though.
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Re: "Canadian Coast Guard Going Down"
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2016, 17:00:37 »
Not surprising, we are paying poor wages compared to industry, but then we don't have the ups and downs. If the downturn carries on, this will be self correcting as we won't have to compete for ticketed personal. If even one of the LNG projects on the West Coast goes into production, there will be a severe shortage for the first 10 years. The pilots hire mostly from the Tugs and with 4 docking tugs and possibly 2-3 escort tugs per tanker with 250-360 ships a year, that's a lot of people to maintain that flow.

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Re: "Canadian Coast Guard Going Down"
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2016, 19:59:22 »
In the "Gee, who'd have thought" department, CCG is having trouble finding crews willing to work overtime, since the new pay system has problems with paying them.  Imagine, crews at sea don't have access to the Government of Canada computer network to input their hours for approval by their boss.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/coast-guard-overtime-issues-linked-to-phoenix-1.3718353
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Re: "Canadian Coast Guard Going Down"
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2016, 20:15:37 »
I sense the nefarious hand of the evil Harper.   >:D

Downsizing the bureaucracy on the Liberal's watch by implementing a change the Civil Service asked for.  Genius. 
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Re: "Canadian Coast Guard Going Down"
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2016, 22:47:24 »
They should really start putting "we don't drug test" on their job ads.
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Re: "Canadian Coast Guard Going Down"
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2016, 15:44:56 »
In the "Gee, who'd have thought" department, CCG is having trouble finding crews willing to work overtime, since the new pay system has problems with paying them.  Imagine, crews at sea don't have access to the Government of Canada computer network to input their hours for approval by their boss.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/coast-guard-overtime-issues-linked-to-phoenix-1.3718353

The assumption of the software types is everyone has an account and network access.

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