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Re: Cdns Kidnapped in Philippines (split fm Re: Politics in 2016)
« Reply #25 on: May 04, 2016, 15:41:01 »
Impaling people who do this might have an effect
Agreed, but gotta catch 'em first ...
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Re: Cdns Kidnapped in Philippines (split fm Re: Politics in 2016)
« Reply #26 on: May 04, 2016, 20:05:31 »
Impaling people who do this might have an effect

On a pork covered pole.  Vlad Tepes style.

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Re: Cdns Kidnapped in Philippines (split fm Re: Politics in 2016)
« Reply #27 on: May 05, 2016, 07:08:13 »
Lookit who's trying to help out ...
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The Moro National Liberation Front (MNLF) said it has been finding ways to help secure the remaining captives taken from the Island Garden City of Samal on Sept 21, 2015 as the Abu Sayyaf released another video, in which the hostages pleaded for help.

Dr Samsula Adju, chair of the MNLF's Global Roving Diplomacy and Peace Advocacy, told the Philippine Daily Inquirer on Wednesday that they have been studying what measures to take to help end the ordeal of Canadian Robert Hall, Norwegian Kjartan Sekkingstad, and Filipino Maritess Flor.

"We want to help in their safe release," Adju said.

But Adju clarified that the MNLF was not considering any armed confrontation with the Abu Sayyaf.

"The MNLF will try its best again to have peaceful negotiation with the ASG leadership to avoid bloodshed and misunderstanding. Negotiation is the best measure to address the peace and security problem of the province. Military option, I think, is not the solution," he said ...
More on the MNLF here.
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Re: Cdns Kidnapped in Philippines (split fm Re: Politics in 2016)
« Reply #28 on: May 16, 2016, 06:36:38 »
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Abu Sayyaf extremists in the Philippines who last month beheaded a Canadian man say they will kill another Western hostage if a multi-million dollar ransom is not paid within four weeks.

A video released by the group — whose leaders have sworn allegiance to ISIL — shows Canadian Robert Hall and Norwegian Kjartan Sekkingstad wearing orange shirts in a jungle setting, surrounded by hooded, armed men.

The men say their captors have threatened to kill at least one of them if no payment is received by June 13.

A caption on the video, carried by the terror-monitoring SITE Intelligence Group, says Abu Sayyaf is demanding 600 million pesos (US$12.8 million).*

In April, the group killed Canadian John Ridsdel after a ransom deadline passed.

Ridsdel, Mr Hall, Mr Sekkingstad, and Mr Hall’s Filipina girlfriend were abducted in 2015 from a resort on Samal island, hundreds of kilometres from Abu Sayyaf’s traditional strongholds ...

* - About CDN$ 16.7 million
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Re: Cdns Kidnapped in Philippines (split fm Re: Politics in 2016)
« Reply #29 on: May 16, 2016, 09:53:05 »
I hope they find them before the deadline and if not I hope their end is quick.  Poor bastards. 

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Re: Cdns Kidnapped in Philippines (split fm Re: Politics in 2016)
« Reply #30 on: May 23, 2016, 17:56:29 »
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The (Philippine)military stood by its focused operations to rescue the three remaining Samal captives held by the Abu Sayyaf group, who released a “final message” from the hostages on Sunday.
 
Maj. Filemon Tan Jr., spokesman of the Western Mindanao Command (Westmincom), said the military has not seen the new video yet. However, he maintained that the deadline does not factor into Wesmincom's operations.
 
“With deadlines or not, we are working to get the kidnap victims,” Tan said.
 
Tan said the ground forces continued to pursue search and rescue operation in Sulu based on the available information.
 
“Our primary concern is the rescue and safety of the kidnap victims,” Tan added.
 
The military declined to divulge any information that may affect operations such as sightings of the Abu Sayyaf group and their kidnap victims.
 
In a fresh video posted on the Intelligence group SITE Sunday, the Abu Sayyaf group sent what it said is the “final message” of the Samal island captives.
 
Canadian Robert Hall, one of the three remaining Samal Island captives, appealed to incoming president and Davao City Mayor Rodrigo Duterte and the Philippine government to coordinate with a certain woman at the Canadian Embassy for their release.
 
Hall was asking to work on their appeal “the sooner the better” for their release.
 
The Abu Sayyaf group has given June 13 as its deadline for the victims' families and governments to comply with its demand ...
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Second Canadian beheaded
« Reply #31 on: June 13, 2016, 06:42:38 »
R.I.P. x 2 ...
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The Abu Sayyaf group has beheaded another Canadian hostage held on a southern Philippine island after ransom demands apparently were not met.

Robert Hall was confirmed dead on Monday by a military source who spoke to Al Jazeera on condition of anonymity prior to the official announcment.

"Today Canadian kidnap victim identified as Robert Hall was beheaded by his abductor ... the Abu Sayyaf group," the military source said.

Abu Sayyaf spokesman were phoning local media on Monday noting the deadline for Hall's ranson had passed at 3pm local time and he had been killed ...
Still early reports - more here (via Google News).
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Re: Cdns Kidnapped in Philippines (split fm Re: Politics in 2016)
« Reply #32 on: June 13, 2016, 07:30:53 »
 :rage: :rage: :rage:  I hope the Philippine military find these assholes and terminate them with extreme prejudice. My condolences to the Hall family for their loss.   :salute:

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Re: Cdns Kidnapped in Philippines (split fm Re: Politics in 2016)
« Reply #33 on: June 13, 2016, 11:20:14 »
From our PM's Info-machine:
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The Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau, today issued the following statement on the likely death of Robert Hall:

“It is with deep sadness that I have reason to believe that a Canadian citizen, Robert Hall, held hostage in the Philippines since September 21, 2015, has been killed by his captors.

“While Canadian officials are working closely with authorities in the Philippines to formally confirm Mr. Hall’s death, we have compelling reason to believe that reports to this effect are, unfortunately, true.   

“The vicious and brutal actions of the hostage-takers have led to a needless death.

“Canada holds the terrorist group who took him hostage fully responsible for this cold-blooded and senseless murder.

“With the tragic loss of two Canadians, I want to reiterate that terrorist hostage-takings only fuel more violence and instability. Canada will not give into their fear mongering tactics and despicable attitude toward the suffering of others.

“This is precisely why the Government of Canada will not and cannot pay ransoms for hostages to terrorists groups, as doing so would endanger the lives of more Canadians.

“We are more committed than ever to working with the Government of the Philippines and international partners to pursue those responsible for these heinous acts and bring them to justice, however long it takes.

“The Government’s top priority, and my own as Prime Minister, is the safety and security of Canadian citizens.

“On behalf of the Government of Canada and all Canadians, I would like to express my heartfelt condolences to the family and friends of Mr. Hall.

“They have suffered a terrible loss, and this is a devastating moment for them. Our thoughts are with them as they mourn this tragedy. I would ask that the media respect their privacy, and allow them time to come to terms with their loss.

“Today marks yet another difficult day for Canada and for Canadians as we grieve as a nation for the loss of both John Ridsdel, who was killed on April 25, and Robert Hall.”
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Re: Cdns Kidnapped in Philippines (split fm Re: Politics in 2016)
« Reply #34 on: June 14, 2016, 21:46:46 »
:rage: :rage: :rage:  I hope the Philippine military find these assholes and terminate them with extreme prejudice.
Here's hoping ...
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The beheading of a second Canadian hostage in the Philippines by ransom-seeking Abu Sayyaf extremists has prompted a major offensive by troops in the south of the country.

(...)

Following Mr Ridsdel's beheading on April 25 and Canadian expressions of outrage, Mr Aquino ordered an intensified offensive against the militants.

He plans to fly to Jolo, about 600 miles south of Manila, this week to impart a sense of urgency in containing the Abu Sayyaf.

One of the officials, a general, said Mr Aquino has made tremendous efforts to end the Abu Sayyaf's brutal presence before he steps down at the end of the month.

As things stand, however, the incoming president, the crime-busting former mayor Rodrigo Duterte, will have to take over the campaign to end the group's insurrection.
A reminder:  another hostage still in AS's hands, Kjartan Sekkingstad, may be was a permanent former resident of Canada in Campbell River, BC.
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Re: Cdns Kidnapped in Philippines (split fm Re: Politics in 2016)
« Reply #35 on: June 15, 2016, 06:45:14 »
Interesting ....
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Canadian officials twice rejected proposals from the Philippines government to approve rescue missions for Alberta hostages Robert Hall and John Ridsdel, says a Calgary-based security consultant claiming knowledge of the planned military interventions.

The allegation is being called “categorically untrue” by a senior Ottawa official, who denied that permission was ever sought by the Philippines government for potentially life-saving raids.

(...)

Humphrey, who founded the group Veterans for the Conservative Party of Canada and has been publicly critical of Trudeau, said even with Canada’s hard-line against negotiating with terrorists, the lives of Ridsdel and Hall could have been saved with a decisive and well-planned raid.

Humphrey said he remained in contact with senior officials with the Filipino military as they continued to train for a rescue mission early into 2016, and by March, one month ahead of the deadline for Ridsdel’s execution, the jungle hideout thought to be where the hostages were being held was confirmed by GPS trackers left in bags of money used to pay the ransom for a group of other hostages.

“In March, they were able to confirm the camp where they were being held and were pretty confident they were there,” Humphrey said. “They requested permission from Ottawa to go and the answer was ‘No.’

“In April, John Ridsdel was killed and the hostages were moved.”

Another ransom exchange of a large group of Indonesian and Malaysian citizens was made in May, Humphrey said, and a similar tactic confirmed the location of the new Abu Sayyaf jungle camp, prompting a second request to Canadian officials to launch a rescue operation.

“They requested permission to go again,” he said. “They didn’t have 100 per cent certainty they were there, but they were pretty certain.

“They were turned down again. I don’t know why the Canadian government didn’t allow Filipino marines to attempt those rescues.”

Speaking on condition of anonymity due to the ongoing hostage situation involving Flor and Sekkingstad, the senior Canadian official refuted the claim that requests for hostage rescue operations were ever made to the Canadian government.

However, there was no official comment from either the Prime Minister’s Office or the Ministry of Global Affairs about Humphrey’s claims Monday.

(...)
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Re: Cdns Kidnapped in Philippines (split fm Re: Politics in 2016)
« Reply #36 on: June 15, 2016, 06:54:10 »
Interesting ....

Especially if this story has any legs to it.  I can't see, however, a raid being turned down if one was so offered without good bloody reason.

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Re: Cdns Kidnapped in Philippines (split fm Re: Politics in 2016)
« Reply #37 on: June 15, 2016, 07:53:08 »
Why the hell would they request permission from Canada, their bloody country, their bloody terrorists, kill, kill, kill?
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Re: Cdns Kidnapped in Philippines (split fm Re: Politics in 2016)
« Reply #38 on: June 15, 2016, 08:57:48 »
Why the hell would they request permission from Canada, their bloody country, their bloody terrorists, kill, kill, kill?
That's what makes me scratch my head, too.  The Phillipines has just come through an election cycle, so that may have been a factor, but that's just a WAG on my part.
Especially if this story has any legs to it.
:nod:  Right now, I'm happy to share it on the "is EVERYTHING ever in ANY media story?" basis - there must be more to it than this ...
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Re: Cdns Kidnapped in Philippines (split fm Re: Politics in 2016)
« Reply #39 on: June 15, 2016, 09:37:09 »
That's what makes me scratch my head, too.  The Phillipines has just come through an election cycle, so that may have been a factor, but that's just a WAG on my part. :nod:  Right now, I'm happy to share it on the "is EVERYTHING ever in ANY media story?" basis - there must be more to it than this ...

Seeing as Canadian citizens were the victims, I could see the Philippine authorities asking to CYA in case things went south and they were killed in the attempt, or if we already had something in play that could have been upset (negotiations for example) by an rescue attempt. 

At least the present President doesn't seem to be one who will be all panty waisted "sunny ways" in dealing with the terrorists.  They, and their support element will be hammered flat and taken out if they get a chance to strike.

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Update:  one freed ...
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A Filipina held hostage by a notorious kidnapping-for-ransom gang in the strife-torn southern Philippines was released from captivity Friday, police said, a week after her Canadian boyfriend was beheaded by the gunmen.

Marites Flor was among four people abducted nine months ago by Abu Sayyaf Islamic militants based on remote, mountainous islands, who have earned millions of dollars from kidnappings in recent years.

Flor’s partner, Robert Hall, was beheaded after a ransom deadline lapsed last week, following a similar killing of the other Canadian hostage, John Ridsdel, in April.

Flor was freed in Sulu, a southern archipelago known as a hideout of the militants, the local police chief, Wilfredo Cayat, said.

Cayat did not give details on the circumstances of her release except that she was dropped off outside the house of local politician Abdusakur Tan on Jolo, the main island in Sulu.

Another politician from the area, Jesus Dureza, said he negotiated with the kidnappers on behalf of incoming Philippine president Rodrigo Duterte to win Flor’s release ...
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The latest ...
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Government security forces have recovered the decaying remains of Canadian kidnap victim Robert Hall in the hinterlands of Sulu, a military official said Saturday, July 2.

Major Filemon Tan Jr., spokesperson of the Armed Forces of the Philippines' Western Mindanao Command (Westmincom), said the remains of Hall was dug up and recovered around 11:35 a.m. Saturday in the village of Upper Kamuntayan, Talipao in Sulu province.

Tan said members of the Joint Task Group Sulu (JTGS) recovered Hall’s body following information from the residents.

Tan said Hall’s body was taken to the JTGS headquarters in the village of Busbus in Jolo town for documentation and was then turned over to the Scene of the Crime Operatives (Soco) ...
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Re: Cdns Kidnapped, Killed in Philippines (split fm Re: Politics in 2016)
« Reply #42 on: September 18, 2016, 17:20:30 »
Update:  one freed ...
And a bit of closure:  the other one freed:
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Ransom-seeking Abu Sayyaf extremists on Saturday freed a Norwegian man kidnapped a year ago in the southern Philippines along with two Canadians who were later beheaded and a Filipino woman who has been released, officials said.

Kjartan Sekkingstad was freed in Patikul town in Sulu province and was eventually secured by rebels from the larger Moro National Liberation Front, which has a signed a peace deal with the government and helped negotiate his release, officials said.

Sekkingstad, held in jungle captivity since being kidnapped last September, was to stay overnight at the house of Moro National Liberation Front chairman Nur Misuari in Sulu and then meet with Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte on Sunday, said Jesus Dureza, who advises Duterte on peace talks with insurgent groups ...
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Re: Cdns Kidnapped, Killed in Philippines (split fm Re: Politics in 2016)
« Reply #43 on: September 24, 2016, 08:31:50 »
Coming up next - family says they didn't do enough ...
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... Bonice Thomas, Robert Hall's sister, wrote a Facebook post, criticizing the Canadian government for not doing more to stop her brother's death.

In an interview with As It Happens host Carol Off, Thomas says she understands the Canadian government's policy of not paying ransom to terrorists. But she says that shouldn't be the end of the conversation.

"I just think we need to have something other than a platitude of 'We won't pay ransom.' We need policy. We need structure to what we will do in a case like this. I strongly believe this is not a lack of ability or means. This is a lack of political will," she says.

She says if the government did do anything behind the scenes to help Hall's case, she didn't hear about it.

"To tell you the truth, I don't know what they did because we weren't informed of a lot of their movements or strategies or anything like that. But I know we had a funeral. So they didn't do all they could've done."

(...)

After Ridsdel's death, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau called it an "act of cold-blooded murder." He vowed to work with the Philippines government to "pursue those responsible for this heinous act and bring them to justice."

Thomas also criticizes former Liberal leader Bob Rae for speaking publicly after Ridsdel's death. Rae was working behind the scenes with Ridsdel's family to try to secure his release. But Thomas says speaking out after his death, while her brother's life hung in the balance, was inappropriate.

"Abu Sayyaf wanted to speak to our government, and our government wasn't speaking. But then an ex-official from our government goes public.  It was a little reckless. It could've easily enraged [Aby Sayyaf]. And it quite probably endangered my brother's life."
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Re: Cdns Kidnapped, Killed in Philippines (split fm Re: Politics in 2016)
« Reply #44 on: November 17, 2016, 19:40:56 »
A bit more detail on what Canada was doing, via an Access to Information release to VICE News (like most media outlets, they don't share the entire release, so caveat lector):
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The day before the deadline a terrorist group had set to behead a Canadian hostage in the Philippines, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau called the Filipino president and emphasized that his government has a firm policy against paying ransoms.

Details of the 11th hour exchange on April 7 between Trudeau and Philippine President Benigno Aquino III are contained in documents obtained by VICE News through access to information and illustrate how Canadian officials worked behind the scenes to respond to the looming threat.

The kidnapping of the two Canadians, Robert Hall and John Ridsdel, marked one of the first crises of the Trudeau government. The two men, along with a Norwegian man and a Filipino woman, had been kidnapped and held hostage by Islamic State-affiliated Abu Sayyaf in the jungles of the southern Philippines. Ridsdel was executed on April 25, while Hall was killed on June 13.

According to emails regarding the call between the two leaders, Trudeau “expressed appreciation for efforts to date, that threat was credible, and that we have a firm no-ransom policy.”

While that policy may have been “firm,” Trudeau had yet to publicly acknowledge that Canada was refusing to pay the hostage-takers. It was only after Ridsdel was killed on April 25 that Trudeau publicly emphasized that policy.

Talking points provided to Trudeau before the call recommended he emphasize that the Philippines is Canada’s closest partner in Southeast Asia, thank the president’s support for Canada’s bid to join the East Asia Summit, his commitment to ending the insurgency in the southern Philippines and to countering terrorism ...
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#TrudeauGovernmentAttacked on Kidnapping response
« Reply #45 on: December 01, 2016, 07:33:44 »
More detail on what the government was (and wasn't) doing behind the scenes ...
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On Nov. 3, 2015, the day before newly elected prime minister Justin Trudeau was set to name his cabinet, one of the most gruesome challenges of his leadership and his government made itself known.

A terrorist organization half a world away was threatening to kill two Canadians.

In a video shot on Jolo Island in the Philippines’ Sulu Province and posted to Twitter, a man named John Ridsdel addressed the camera ...
... with some possible solutions:
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The government is facing calls to review its approach to supporting families of Canadians kidnapped abroad and address alleged shortcomings in its response to the cases of two men abducted in the Philippines in 2015.

Among the recommendations is establishing a U.S.-style "fusion cell" that would improve co-ordination between government departments in the hopes of resolving hostage situations.

"Every Western country is moving towards a fusion cell approach," says Lee Humphrey, a former Canadian soldier who now works as an international security consultant.

He believes Canada hasn't done enough to adapt to an increase in international kidnappings.

( ... )

A senior government source told CBC News the government is currently completing an analysis of the Hall and Ridsdel cases, which includes interviewing family members ...
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TorStar: JTF2 was there
« Reply #46 on: December 06, 2016, 08:03:38 »
Interestingly phrased - highlights mine ...
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For 266 hellish nights in the clutches of the Abu Sayyaf Group, Robert Hall held out hope that Canadian soldiers were coming to the rescue.

Hall, 66, had an engineer’s mind. He was a problem-solver. He understood this was a problem for the best of the best.

The Canadians would sweep into the Philippine jungle after dark, Hall assured his fiancée and fellow captive Marites Flor. And when they come for one, they will come for all — Hall, Flor, fellow Canadian John Ridsdel and Norwegian hostage Kjartan Sekkingstad. They all had to be alert. Always. Tonight. Tomorrow.

“Every single night, Robert told me, ‘Tess, stay close. Be prepared. We have to be ready for the special forces,’” says Flor, who was dumped from a Jeep and staggered to freedom 10 days after Hall was executed in June.

Military rescues rarely work — hostages often get killed. Canadian forces cannot act independently in sovereign nations. The killing of Osama bin Laden at Zero Dark Thirty is a Hollywood rarity — and one fraught with problems.

But Hall had reason to believe: his was a family of Canadian military pedigree, from an uncle on the beaches of Normandy to a son who had served in Afghanistan.

Hall would never live to learn the heartbreaking truth: Joint Task Force 2, the jewel of Canada’s special ops command, was in the Philippines, the Star can confirm. But not in a position to strike.

A team arrived within days of the abductions, according to highly placed sources close to JTF2. They spent the next nine months on the ground without ever growing into a full-strength assault team.

The Canadian soldiers were kept on a short leash, never given the green light to team up with their Philippine special forces counterparts. And a Canadian-led rescue was never in the cards.


JTF2 teams have deployed without action before: in Africa seven years ago for kidnapped Canadian diplomats Robert Fowler and Louis Guay, and in Afghanistan for abducted CBC reporter Mellissa Fung. In those cases the hostages came home alive through negotiation.

This time, two Canadians were slain.

And JTF2, which lists hostage rescue among its core competencies, remains a unit never once given the opportunity to put these skills to the test ...
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Re: Cdns Kidnapped, Killed in Philippines (split fm Re: Politics in 2016)
« Reply #47 on: December 06, 2016, 11:17:14 »
And the key to the story is here:

Hall would never live to learn the heartbreaking truth: Joint Task Force 2, the jewel of Canada’s special ops command, was in the Philippines, the Star can confirm. But not in a position to strike.

A team arrived within days of the abductions, according to highly placed sources close to JTF2. They spent the next nine months on the ground without ever growing into a full-strength assault team.

The Canadian soldiers were kept on a short leash, never given the green light to team up with their Philippine special forces counterparts. And a Canadian-led rescue was never in the cards.


This is about what could have been expected. The Philippine forces and even more so their government would never have ceded sovereignty to a foreign force, especially from a first world country. Moreover the Philippinos would have been familiar with the area of operations and there is no reason to believe that a force of European-stock operators could have been inserted and trained to operate in a hostile environment, let along carry out the operation, without detection.

In another place under different circumstances, perhaps, but not in this case.

A little bit of sensationalism, anyone?

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Re: Cdns Kidnapped, Killed in Philippines (split fm Re: Politics in 2016)
« Reply #48 on: December 11, 2016, 07:26:10 »
And a little bit of closure ...
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Malaysian security forces have killed a key member of a Philippine armed group in a shootout in waters off Sabah in Borneo, according to the Philippine military.

Abu Sayyaf commander Abraham Hamid had led the kidnapping of several foreigners from a tourist resort in the southern Philippines last year, two of whom were later beheaded.

"The death of Hamid is a big blow to the [Abu Sayyaf] as it neutralised one of the notorious bandits and will degrade their capability for spotting and kidnapping victims in the future," said Major Filemon Tan, regional military spokesperson for the Philippines, on Saturday.

Tan said Hamid had also been involved in the kidnapping of four Indonesian crewmen in April.

Two other fighters were killed alongside Hamid in the shootout with Malaysian police in Lahad Datu in eastern Sabah, he said.

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In recent months, government forces have been carrying out major operations against the Abu Sayyaf, which beheaded two Canadian hostages after demands for millions of dollars were not met.

The armed group released two others, a Norwegian and Filipina, after ransoms were believed to be paid.

There have been a spate of kidnappings of Malaysian and Indonesian sailors at sea in recent months that have been blamed on the Abu Sayyaf.

While Hamid and two fighters were killed, Sabah security forces have arrested two others, Tan said.

Abdul Rashid Harun, Sabah police chief, told AFP news agency the incident was the Malaysian authorities' first direct confrontation with suspected kidnappers in the waters off eastern Sabah ...
More from Filipino media here, here and here.
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Re: Cdns Kidnapped, Killed in Philippines (split fm Re: Politics in 2016)
« Reply #49 on: December 11, 2016, 09:27:19 »
Outstanding.  Hope it was a slow, painful death.