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Re: CH-148 Cyclone Progress
« Reply #975 on: April 20, 2017, 15:33:07 »
There is absolutely neither glee nor prophetic joy of any kind for me to be able to sit back now and say "I warned you this would happen by choosing a paper MHP solution".  In my view, it's a Trumpian "very sad" situation that we are now in but one that any intelligent person should not have expected back in 2004.  I'm certain that we'll learn to live with this Cyclone pig in a poke for a time; we've always managed to get by with faulty or half-assed gear in the past until we simply couldn't accept it any longer.  Good thing that the free world does not have to rely upon Canada for its military capabilities.

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Re: CH-148 Cyclone Progress
« Reply #976 on: April 20, 2017, 15:58:30 »
I just ride in helicopters.

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Re: CH-148 Cyclone Progress
« Reply #977 on: April 20, 2017, 16:20:04 »
This is what the Chretien Liberals wanted instead of the EH-101 "Cadillac".

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Re: CH-148 Cyclone Progress
« Reply #978 on: April 20, 2017, 19:34:27 »
I just ride in helicopters.

Did we go Tesla-powered Cadillac when we should have been looking at a Ford Focus  F250?

Maybe?
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Re: CH-148 Cyclone Progress
« Reply #979 on: April 21, 2017, 22:08:02 »
Nope, we got sold an aircraft that existed on paper....and that we're the only user/buyer in the world for....

Orphan fleet.  Developed specifically for us. 
Insert disclaimer statement here....

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Re: CH-148 Cyclone Progress
« Reply #980 on: April 22, 2017, 05:38:10 »
Nope, we (the Govt) got sold deliberately selected for political reasons an aircraft that wasn't the EH-101, the byproduct of which was getting an aircraft that existed on paper....and that we're the only user/buyer in the world for....

Orphan fleet.  Developed specifically for us.

Some thoughts on that, NS, but the end result was the same.

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Re: CH-148 Cyclone Progress
« Reply #981 on: April 22, 2017, 12:35:15 »
We got briefed recently on how the MH world is transitioning from one platform to the other, maintainers and aircrew.  I feel for them, on both coasts.   :salute:  They are going full tilt to maintain Dets with the 124 while also converting to the 148, and there is definitely some extra *** pain happening.  Definitely challenging times for the MH community.


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Re: CH-148 Cyclone Progress
« Reply #982 on: April 22, 2017, 18:41:06 »
Every flying community goes through this over time. It is seldom easy.

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Re: CH-148 Cyclone Progress
« Reply #983 on: April 23, 2017, 23:09:44 »
We got briefed recently on how the MH world is transitioning from one platform to the other, maintainers and aircrew.  I feel for them, on both coasts.   :salute:  They are going full tilt to maintain Dets with the 124 while also converting to the 148, and there is definitely some extra *** pain happening.  Definitely challenging times for the MH community.

I would have thought they concentrate one airframe on one coast and the other on the other coast, until you have enough to start forming 2 fleets of the new machine on each coast?

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Re: CH-148 Cyclone Progress
« Reply #984 on: April 24, 2017, 08:34:43 »
I would have thought they concentrate one airframe on one coast and the other on the other coast, until you have enough to start forming 2 fleets of the new machine on each coast?

They probably can't risk flying the Seakings across the country and the potential for multiple breakdowns in the process.   ;D

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Re: CH-148 Cyclone Progress
« Reply #985 on: April 24, 2017, 09:50:15 »
They probably can't risk flying the Seakings across the country and the potential for multiple breakdowns in the process.   ;D

We can, and do, routinely.

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Re: CH-148 Cyclone Progress
« Reply #986 on: April 24, 2017, 15:28:32 »
I would have thought they concentrate one airframe on one coast and the other on the other coast, until you have enough to start forming 2 fleets of the new machine on each coast?

Something like that, ya.  Its not my community so I don't think I should be stating details but...from what I can gather, they're a REAL busy bunch.

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Re: CH-148 Cyclone Progress
« Reply #987 on: April 28, 2017, 11:35:41 »
Good article giving the current status of the aircraft

https://www.verticalmag.com/news/future-forward/


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Re: CH-148 Cyclone Progress
« Reply #988 on: April 28, 2017, 14:52:46 »
Here's an even better one!   8)

https://www.skiesmag.com/news/future-forward/

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Re: CH-148 Cyclone Progress
« Reply #989 on: July 06, 2017, 12:11:44 »
Would this be something we would consider for our Cyclones? http://www.defensenews.com/articles/france-successfully-fires-sea-venom-missile

PARIS — France successfully fired on June 21 for the first time the anti-navire léger, also dubbed Sea Venom, a helicopter-borne anti-ship missile, the French armed forces ministry said.

France and Britain are developing and building the ANL/Sea Venom in a bilateral program under the Lancaster house defense cooperation treaty.

This was the first development firing of the ANL on the Mediterranean missile test center of the Direction Générale de l'Armement, the French armed forces ministry said in a July 4 statement. The missile, which can operate in fire-and-forget mode and also with an operator in the loop, was fired from a Panther test bed helicopter flown by the DGA.

The missile will replace the British Sea Skua and French AS15TT anti-ship weapons, and is due to be fitted on the Royal Navy’s AW159 Wildcat and the French Navy’s Hélicoptère Interarmées Léger, MBDA said in a statement.

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Re: CH-148 Cyclone Progress
« Reply #990 on: July 06, 2017, 14:22:08 »
I believe the intent later on is to introduce some form of air to surface weapon with Cyclone.