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Re: "PTSD will be presumed to be work-related"
« Reply #25 on: October 17, 2012, 13:13:44 »
"MPP Cheri DiNovo determined not to give up fight for PTSD bill: It was just last Wednesday that MPP Cheri DiNovo stared confidently into the television cameras at Queen’s Park to announce a bill close to her heart.":
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/1272543--mpp-cheri-dinovo-determined-not-to-give-up-fight-for-ptsd-bill

"However, in the wake of Premier Dalton McGuinty’s stunning resignation announcement Monday, all has been lost."

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Re: "PTSD will be presumed to be work-related"
« Reply #26 on: November 16, 2012, 14:04:59 »
November 3, 2012

"EDMONTON - Police officers, firefighters and paramedics who suffer from post-traumatic stress disorder will soon have automatic coverage from the Workers’ Compensation Board, under new legislation passed by MLAs.

Bill 1, which gives “presumptive” coverage to first responders, was unanimously approved by all parties late Thursday, though not before considerable debate on whether to add more professions such as correctional officers, social workers and emergency health care workers.":
http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/Alberta+legislature+approves+enhanced+PTSD+coverage/7492468/story.html

Alberta is the first province to provide such coverage.   



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Re: "PTSD will be presumed to be work-related"
« Reply #27 on: November 22, 2012, 12:56:58 »

Thank you for Posting this Mike...
Far too many EMS, Fire, Police and 911 Call Center Members are unfortunately 'still suffering in silence' ~ Hopefully this will now start to Change...
Respectfully,
Allan
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Re: "PTSD will be presumed to be work-related"
« Reply #28 on: November 22, 2012, 13:06:35 »
Mr. Gray,

I hope that your rather benign post (one could have summed up with a +1) was not to draw attention to your sig line - one that looks very close to advertising to me and has been brought to the staff's attention previously.

If it was then it would piss me off.

I'm available via PM. I suggest you contact me.

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Re: "PTSD will be presumed to be work-related"
« Reply #29 on: November 22, 2012, 14:10:10 »
Far too many EMS, Fire, Police and 911 Call Center Members are unfortunately 'still suffering in silence' ~ Hopefully this will now start to Change...

I do not believe the recently passed PTSD legislation in Alberta ( first of its kind in Canada ) will change anything for 9-1-1 Call Receivers or Dispatchers.

It only covers Police Officers, Firefighters, Paramedics / EMTs / EMRs and Alberta Sheriffs.

If presumptive legislation is passed in Ontario, I have heard opinions where I used to work that PTSD claims will "take off like wildfire". The police services expressed a similar concern.

Perhaps for pensioners. But, those still on the job have stress leave written into the collective agreement. They have a support system that includes a Psychologist, Peer Support Team, Employee Assistance Program, and long term Modified Duty for PTSD.  Modified Duty can last for years.

The pension plan for Police Officers, Firefighters and Paramedics allows them to retire after 30 years on a 70% pension.

Extended Health Benefits pay for programs such as Bellwoods:
http://www.bellwood.ca/

They also have the option of going on Long Term Disability ( LTD ). That pays 75%.

If WSIB decides they require permanent modified work, the first option is to modify the job so the Paramedic can perform the essential duties. Due to the nature of our business, that is not possible.

The second option would be to place them in a comparable job elsewhere in the Department. However, being the smallest of the Emergency Services, there are no comparable jobs for Paramedics.

TFS members can be transferred from Operations Division to Fire Prevention, Quartermaster Section or Mechanical Division.

TPS is able to provide over 180 job opportunities for Police Officers.

The final option is to find them suitable employment.

Suitable employment is defined as employment consistent with the employee's skills and functional abilities that does not pose a health and safety hazard to the employee or co-worker.

Since the disability is not physical, finding suitable work with the City is not a problem. Whatever they decide is suitable, you must accept. You may be offered one or two choices.

On the other hand, if Permanently Partially Disabled ( PPD ), Paramedics with physical disabilities ( such as bad backs ) are accommodated with clean, inside work with no heavy lifting and a thermostat on the wall. Crew Schedulers are an example.



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Re: "PTSD will be presumed to be work-related"
« Reply #30 on: November 23, 2012, 14:15:14 »

Thank you for the 'Clarification'!
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Re: "PTSD will be presumed to be work-related"
« Reply #31 on: February 13, 2013, 13:22:59 »
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"The Workers’ Compensation Amendment Act will allow firefighters, police officers, sheriffs and paramedics to receive compensation for PTSD without having to prove their condition is work-related. Alberta will be the first province in Canada to provide such coverage."

Manitoba may be next.

02/11/2013

"Firefighters, police officers and paramedics face the debilitating effects of post-traumatic stress disorder":
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/helping-the-helpers-190643011.html

"Manitoba emergency services unions hope to fix that. They are calling on the provincial government to adopt a law -- much like Alberta's new legislation -- that recognizes post-traumatic stress disorder in firefighters, police and peace officers and emergency medical technicians."

"The law means if a doctor or psychologist diagnoses one of these workers with PTSD, it's "presumed" it's due to what happened in the course of the job, "unless the contrary is proven." "
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Re: "PTSD will be presumed to be work-related"
« Reply #32 on: May 16, 2013, 09:22:43 »
Ontario update.

1st Reading May 7, 2013

Bill 67
"An Act to amend the Workplace Safety and Insurance Act, 1997 with respect to post-traumatic stress disorder".

"The Workplace Safety and Insurance Act, 1997 is amended to create a rebuttable presumption relating to post-traumatic stress disorder affecting emergency response workers."

"...defines emergency response worker to mean a firefighter, paramedic or police officer."

"...states that if an emergency response worker suffers from post-traumatic stress disorder, the disorder is presumed to be an occupational disease that occurred due to the employment as an emergency response worker, unless the contrary is shown."
http://www.ontla.on.ca/bills/bills-files/40_Parliament/Session2/b067.pdf
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Re: "PTSD will be presumed to be work-related"
« Reply #33 on: November 08, 2013, 23:30:37 »
This story may be of interest to young people considering a Paramedic program after high school.

6 Nov 2013

"In Canada, Paramedics Are the Most Likely to Develop PTSD"
http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/canadian-paramedics-are-the-most-likely-citizens-to-develop-ptsd

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Re: "PTSD will be presumed to be work-related"
« Reply #34 on: January 30, 2014, 23:46:06 »
CTV January 29, 2014

"Emergency workers twice as likely to suffer from PTSD:

"Firefighters, paramedics and police are asked to respond to the most traumatic situations --accidents, fires, murders. The sights they deal with on a continuous basis would leave most people in shock."

Read more: http://toronto.ctvnews.ca/emergency-workers-twice-as-likely-to-suffer-from-ptsd-1.1660817#ixzz2rwmW7p90

The story details the prevention and treatment of PTSD at TPS, TFS and T-EMS.

"Toronto Emergency Medical Services has taken a different approach at preventing PTSD. Toronto EMS has offered an in-house psychologist for more than 18 years. Moreover, a peer support team will be proactive and approach paramedics who have been at the scene of a tragedy as opposed to waiting for them to seek help."

Although the smallest of the three Emergency Services, T-EMS has had a full-time Staff Psychologist since the mid-1980s.

With the assistance of the Employee Assistance Team, immediate response to Paramedics - active and retired- is available twenty-four hours-a-day, seven days-a-week.

Also, an update regarding the Ontario PTSD Bill for Police Officers, Firefighters and Paramedics:
http://yorkems.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/PTSD-Bill-67_FINAL.jpg










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Re: "PTSD will be presumed to be work-related"
« Reply #35 on: February 27, 2014, 19:11:06 »
Update from today at Queen's Park.

Thu Feb 27 2014

"Ontario has moved a step closer to making it easier for police, firefighters and paramedics to claim benefits for post-traumatic stress disorder they’ve experienced because of their job.

MPPs voted unanimously Thursday to send a private member’s bill from New Democrat MPP Cheri DiNovo to a legislative committee for further study, the last hurdle before it could be called by the government for a final vote.

DiNovo said she does not know how many PTSD cases are pending and could be impacted by her legislation, which has raised concerns in some circles about compensation costs."

Alberta passed a similar law last year.
http://www.thestar.com/news/queenspark/2014/02/27/cheri_dinovos_bill_would_give_benefits_to_police_firefighters_paramedics.html






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Re: "PTSD will be presumed to be work-related"
« Reply #36 on: February 01, 2016, 22:21:10 »
Feb 01, 2016

Ontario is launching a plan to help first responders deal with the impact of post traumatic stress disorder, which the government calls a serious and debilitating injury.

Labour Minister Kevin Flynn says the stress and danger faced by police, firefighters and paramedics can have a lasting and serious effect not only on their physical health, but their mental health as well.

He says the government is looking at coverage for first responders with PTSD under the Workplace Safety and Insurance Act, promises legislation in the very near future to help those with work-related PTSD injuries.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-launches-ptsd-program-1.3428913

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Re: "PTSD will be presumed to be work-related"
« Reply #37 on: April 05, 2016, 16:08:15 »
Good news for those still on the job,

Apr 05, 2016

"Ontario has unanimously passed legislation recognizing post traumatic stress disorder as work-related illness for police, firefighters and paramedics."
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-ptsd-workplace-insurance-1.3521534

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Re: "PTSD will be presumed to be work-related"
« Reply #38 on: October 04, 2016, 15:15:23 »
Not great news for pensioners. I've never put a claim in for PTSD, or lost time from work because of it. Never been diagnosed with it.

But, some of us pensioners were under the rather misguided impression that we would be entitled to some cash for all the years on the job. There must be some sort of cumulative effect?

But, the union told us we get nothing, unless we lost time.  Disappointed. Booooo!
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Re: "PTSD will be presumed to be work-related"
« Reply #39 on: October 08, 2016, 13:54:50 »
 October 7, 2016

Quebec Paramedic gets PTSD. So they took her Ontario drivers licence away.
http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/ottawa-paramedic-with-ptsd-told-she-can-drive-again

Said they will downgrade her from Class F to G. Paramedics need a Class F. I actually needed a CZ.
Sounds like she is battling with Ontario’s Ministry of Transportation and Quebec WSIB.

She will get her Class G, but I can't see them giving back the Class F anytime soon, if ever. However, she only needs a G to drive her own car in Ontario. No idea how the Quebec driver licencing system works.

Cosenzo has been on medical leave from her paramedic job with the Coopérative des Paramédics de l’Outaouais since last October, when she responded to a traumatic call for a teenager who died by suicide. She has PTSD but feels her condition has improved.

That's Quebec. I have no idea how things work in Quebec. Paramedicine is provincially regulated.
http://www.paramedic.coop/

Her next battle is with the Quebec workplace insurance agency to recognize her PTSD.
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