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MP student armbands
« on: August 23, 2013, 08:56:36 »
I was wondering what the reason is for having MP students wear black armbands singling them out as MP students, anyone know?
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Re: MP student armbands
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2013, 08:58:40 »
I was wondering what the reason is for having MP students wear black armbands singling them out as MP students, anyone know?

Mourning Bands?

Or are you talking about the Black armlets with "MP" on them?   Why wouldn't they?
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Re: MP student armbands
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2013, 09:04:28 »
Mourning Bands?

Or are you talking about the Black armlets with "MP" on them?   Why wouldn't they?

Mourning bands, in uniform, are typically CWO and up.
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Re: MP student armbands
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2013, 09:13:08 »
The arm band like a duty nco would wear. It just seems weird to have a ql3 student wearing an armband telling everyone that they are an mp student.
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Re: MP student armbands
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2013, 09:15:12 »
It is common practice at most Schools.  Why would this be different.  It also differentiates between "real" MPs and "MP candidates" so you will have an idea with whom you are dealing with. 
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Re: MP student armbands
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2013, 09:27:57 »
It also differentiates between "real" MPs and "MP candidates" so you will have an idea with whom you are dealing with.

Sounds similar to the "Cadet" identification worn by police.
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Re: MP student armbands
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2013, 10:38:34 »
It is common practice at most Schools.  Why would this be different.  It also differentiates between "real" MPs and "MP candidates" so you will have an idea with whom you are dealing with.

I've never seen another trade give their students armbands.
MP students also don't wear red berets, kinda hard to mistake them for qualified Mps, no?
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Re: MP student armbands
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2013, 10:39:45 »
Maybe it's so they can start having no friends right from the beginning of their career.   :dunno:
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Re: MP student armbands
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2013, 10:41:43 »
I've never seen another trade give their students armbands.
MP students also don't wear red berets, kinda hard to mistake them for qualified Mps, no?

Various Schools will use armbands from time to time.  Some will use 'ribbon' on the rank badges.  Most have Crse Snr armbands.  It is not unusual, and nothing new. 
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Re: MP student armbands
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2013, 13:17:53 »
Maybe it's so they can start having no friends right from the beginning of their career.   :dunno:

That's the best explanation so far ;D
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Re: MP student armbands
« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2013, 14:01:16 »
Primarily it's because 1) MP students still have 'MP' on their epaulettes, 2) much of their QL3 course MP students spend in OPDs (the police-style uniform) while driving in police vehicles (that also identify them as student MP vehicles, but still...) and 3) if they've had QL5 Reserve Qual prior to joining RegF they would be entitled to wear the red beret. In most QL3 courses there are a significant number of students who meet this criteria.

All of this leads to the possibility of members, or more likely civilians, to mistake MP students as badged MP members able to assist them in a law enforcement capacity. The CFMPA seeks to remove that liability as your average CFSEME student, for example, would not be called upon to do the things expected of a trained MP in an emergency, hence the extra precaution of identifying them as untrained.

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Re: MP student armbands
« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2013, 14:27:22 »
Armband meaning Brassard?

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Re: MP student armbands
« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2015, 10:26:15 »
I was wondering what the reason is for having MP students wear black armbands singling them out as MP students, anyone know?

The reasoning behind this is, when someone on a DND establishment is dressed in an MP uniform, there's an expectation of duty. So if someone needs police assistance, they will call an actual qualified MP, or civilian equivalent, as opposed to asking for help from someone who might be at the beginning of their training. Mind you, as members of the CAF we should all be ready to act and help blah blah blah, but the trainees do not yet have their powers of arrest, and credentials granted to them.

...Also so ppl know not to sit with them at the mess ;) hope that answers your question! Cheers.

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Re: MP student armbands
« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2015, 10:38:08 »
This thread is over 2 years old and has already been answered...
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Re: MP student armbands
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2015, 11:45:48 »
Maybe it's so they can start having no friends right from the beginning of their career.   :dunno:

 ;D ;D Would make things a little easier in the long run.
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