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Re: Reserve Force Compensation
« Reply #25 on: September 22, 2017, 13:32:25 »
He wasn't drinking; he had just left the ship.

Then the decision from higher was wrong.  He was in that location solely because of his military employment.  Refusing compensation for an injury due to his military employment is wrong.

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Re: Reserve Force Compensation
« Reply #26 on: September 22, 2017, 13:53:31 »
Then the decision from higher was wrong.  He was in that location solely because of his military employment.  Refusing compensation for an injury due to his military employment is wrong.

Well... he was on his way to drinking...

So are we saying that any time a member does PT, they could claim it was for FORCE Test preps, and demand Class-A pay since they were "on-duty", and if injured, apply for RFC?

Where do you draw the line? Some Class-A member who already gets high-gold/platinum on the FORCE test is on his 2nd work-out of the day. Clearly, he doesn't need to be working out this hard to simply pass the FORCE test. Is his own self-directed PT really part of a "program" to enable him to pass the FORCE test, thereby giving his PT a military nexus?
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Re: Reserve Force Compensation
« Reply #27 on: September 22, 2017, 14:03:25 »
Well... he was on his way to drinking...

So are we saying that any time a member does PT, they could claim it was for FORCE Test preps, and demand Class-A pay since they were "on-duty", and if injured, apply for RFC?

Where do you draw the line? Some Class-A member who already gets high-gold/platinum on the FORCE test is on his 2nd work-out of the day. Clearly, he doesn't need to be working out this hard to simply pass the FORCE test. Is his own self-directed PT really part of a "program" to enable him to pass the FORCE test, thereby giving his PT a military nexus?

The "deeming" element of CBI 210.72 exists not to pay Res F members, but to provide them with coverage if injured when exercising.  But yes, if a member is injured while exercising and unable to work, then it is entirely reasonable for the CAF to compensate them until such time as they can resume employment.
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Re: Reserve Force Compensation
« Reply #28 on: September 22, 2017, 16:21:36 »
The "deeming" element of CBI 210.72 exists not to pay Res F members, but to provide them with coverage if injured when exercising.  But yes, if a member is injured while exercising and unable to work, then it is entirely reasonable for the CAF to compensate them until such time as they can resume employment.

And I wonder what VAC would say...
"Aboard his ship, there is nothing outside a captain's control." - Captain Sir Edward Pellew

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