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BMOQ Training [MERGED]
« on: May 29, 2014, 13:14:16 »
Hi,

My understanding is the BMOQ-L mods must be completed in this sequence:
BMOQ-L 5 Course ID 117680
BMOQ-L 2 Course ID 117677
BMOQ-L 1 Course ID 117676
BMOQ-L 3 Course ID 117678
BMOQ-L 4 Course ID 117679

Can anyone confirm?  Apologies if this repeats another thread -- mods please move if required but I could not find.

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Re: BMOQ Training [MERGED]
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2014, 16:58:44 »
5,2,1 can be completed in any sequence prior to 3 and 4. After 5,2,1, mods 3 and 4 must be completed in order- 3 then 4.
Posted again...thats six in six.

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Re: BMOQ Training [MERGED]
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2014, 21:16:27 »
As an applicant, is it too far out of my arc to ask what the mods in essence cover?

I know if I'm lucky enough to be selected for service I'll find out perhaps, just curious in the meantime.

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Re: BMOQ Training [MERGED]
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2014, 15:22:14 »
5 is instruction mod - both PT and lessons (knowledge and practical)

2 is weapons  (C7 refresher, C9, grenades and 9mm)

1 is Nav

3 is Off/Def techniques - aka section attack week with some digging trenches in there as well (and a big def battle and retreat)

4 is Recce Patrol
That was some of the best flying I've seen to date - right up to the part where you got killed.

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Re: BMOQ Training [MERGED]
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2014, 15:37:42 »
Much appreciated. Thank you Jester. 

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Re: BMOQ Training [MERGED]
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2014, 09:10:41 »
Does the caf have info like this posted somewhere (on the internet or some intranet). I'm going to be graduating BMOQ soon and it'd be nice to know what I have in store for the future.
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Re: BMOQ Training [MERGED]
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2014, 09:20:50 »
Does the caf have info like this posted somewhere (on the internet or some intranet). I'm going to be graduating BMOQ soon and it'd be nice to know what I have in store for the future.

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Re: BMOQ Training [MERGED]
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2014, 09:22:01 »
How long is each mod and the course in total? I have to complete it soon Cheers!

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Re: BMOQ Training [MERGED]
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2014, 18:16:39 »
each mod is 2 weeks. total 10 weeks. Unless ur a winter serial then its an extra week for Basic Winter Warfare
That was some of the best flying I've seen to date - right up to the part where you got killed.

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Re: BMOQ Training [MERGED]
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2016, 09:51:28 »
I checked Army National Calendar last night.  I did not see any new dates for DP1 BMOQ L beyond the course starting Jan 25 and running to April 8 -- however I would expect there is a Spring and/or Summer serial for the course.  Does anyone have dtates for the course after April 8?

Thanks in advance for any help, 
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Re: BMOQ Training [MERGED]
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2016, 10:20:13 »
That's a new fiscal year, you won't see those until beginning February at the very earliest.

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Re: BMOQ Training [MERGED]
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2016, 12:30:39 »
Has anyone had experience  with going up the CofC to have mods 'written off' due to past military and civilian experiences?  Asking for a friend.


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Re: BMOQ Training [MERGED]
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2016, 12:40:44 »
BMOQ-L should be completely written off if the member has completed PLQ-L. CAF PLQ writes off only BMOQ.

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Re: BMOQ Training [MERGED]
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2016, 12:48:28 »
BMOQ-L should be completely written off if the member has completed PLQ-L. CAF PLQ writes off only BMOQ.
Thanks, this will be dependant on when PLQ-L was completed as well as other factors. Will consult with my buddy.

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Re: BMOQ Training [MERGED]
« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2017, 21:18:04 »
Hiya,

I'm new around here, I just got an account at least. I'm in the midst of enlisting for RMC in 2017-2018 and I know I have to finish BMOQ mod 1 before actually getting to the University to get my fitness level where it really actually should be. But I've never been really active (I blame my parents for not putting me in sports as a kid) and I'm basically starting from scratch here. You know those couch to 5K plans? Well, I'm trying to Couch to Basic in 6 months.

Crazy? Probably. Does anyone have any tips on getting myself up there? I know I have to get good at push ups and sit ups but I don't really get the running standards. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Ronni
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Re: BMOQ Training [MERGED]
« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2017, 00:21:56 »
Hiya,

I'm new around here, I just got an account at least. I'm in the midst of enlisting for RMC in 2017-2018 and I know I have to finish BMOQ mod 1 before actually getting to the University to get my fitness level where it really actually should be. But I've never been really active (I blame my parents for not putting me in sports as a kid) and I'm basically starting from scratch here. You know those couch to 5K plans? Well, I'm trying to Couch to Basic in 6 months.

Crazy? Probably. Does anyone have any tips on getting myself up there? I know I have to get good at push ups and sit ups but I don't really get the running standards. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Ronni

Ronni I am saying this, before others, because I will likely be nicer... ;)

I am not in the armed forces and have no right to an opinion on this matter, so feel free to take this with salt.

But unless you were sarcastic... you made your life choices and you are responsible for them. Blaming someone else for what happens in or to your life, rarely gets you ahead. So swallow the bitter pill that you are out of shape and steel your resolve and make your way to becoming a fit fighting machine.

You can do it. Just dont blame your parents, walking, running and isometric exercises were and are free... you just chose not to do them.

Any rate good luck bud. I said this in the nicest way I could and meant no offence. If you were joking disregard it aside from maybe not doing so in the future... many people may not think it is funny ;)

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Re: BMOQ Training [MERGED]
« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2017, 00:52:24 »
Two things:

1. Listen to what Abdullah said; and

2. For help with your running drop by the Running Room. They have running classes designed to get you from the couch to your goal. Whether that is 5k or triathlon

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Re: BMOQ Training [MERGED]
« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2017, 08:50:16 »
Does anyone have any tips on getting myself up there?

As a female going through the recruiting process right now, my tip to you is to use the search function on this forum. I have been able to find an answer on here to every question I've had.

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Physical Fitness (Jogging, Diet, Cardiovascular, and Strength )
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Re: BMOQ Training [MERGED]
« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2017, 10:17:19 »
As others have said, you alone are responsible for your choices, and the last thing a prospective Junior Officer should be doing is passing the buck.

Regarding fitness, do some HIIT workouts at home. There's no equipment required and there are all kinds of videos on YouTube.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8Pk2bQL-E4&index=8&list=PLLErTVW5MWNuGvC0acoQBa9EOagLyoRHB

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Re: BMOQ Training [MERGED]
« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2017, 20:51:41 »
Hi. I joined my local reserves unit and am nearly finished my weekend BMQ. I'm now trying to figure out what I'll be doing for the summer. It seems like I'll be going to Aldershot for 2 weeks to complete my BMOQ then I'll have the option of doing my BMOQ-L/CAP in Gagetown or Aldershot (for 10 weeks?). I was hoping for some insight into the courses and the different locations.

I've been told Gagetown is more difficult, usually has many more injuries, has more resources, but doesn't necessarily produce better officers.

How do they compare in:
Difficulty
Quality of learning
Facilities
Resources
Time off

Also I was wondering if we have weekends off while on these courses (one officer I talked to said it's 6 days a week)

The few officers I've talked to strongly recommended Aldershot because it's an easier course and everyone parties on their off time. I'm not big on partying and Aldershot is quite a ways away from my home town so I'd probably not have much to do on time off but if I go to Gagetown then I could drive home on weekends.

I'm hoping this course won't be like BMQ. I found that the the learning pace is incredibly slow, the course material is boring regulations instead of soldiering skills, the instructors are lacking knowledge about basic course material, the pt is pathetic, and the troops are unmotivated (not trying to sound like an a**hole).

My plan was to join the reserves to get a taste of the army (see if it is something I would like to make a career out of), improve myself, and have a little fun. My main plan is to join the RCMP after school and I'm trying to decide weather I should give up entire summers and graduate from university later as an officer, or have a little fun and still go to school full time in the summer as a NCM (Since I'll probably only be doing reserves until I graduate. But if I want to join Reg force as an officer later on I should be able to switch back).

Any information/advice is appreciated.

Thanks!

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Re: BMOQ Training [MERGED]
« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2017, 22:01:53 »
My main plan is to join the RCMP <snip>

You may, or may not, find this discussion of interest,

CF experience relevant to RCMP, civ policing? (merged)
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=32733.0
10 pages.

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Re: BMOQ Training [MERGED]
« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2017, 14:05:28 »
You may, or may not, find this discussion of interest,

CF experience relevant to RCMP, civ policing? (merged)
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=32733.0
10 pages.

That should be helpful.  Thanks

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Re: BMOQ Training [MERGED]
« Reply #22 on: March 16, 2017, 14:48:38 »
I have trained at both Aldershot and Gagetown and know people who completed their CAP/BMQL at Aldershot although I completed mine in Gagetown. The delivery of this course is under active review and based on the latest issue of the infantry journal it is now 11 weeks instead of 10 and will no longer be delivered in Mods. Whether that approach will prevail is uncertain given the critical shortage of trained officers in the reserves but that is the current information being communicated from the infantry school.


How do they compare in:
Difficulty Gagetown is harder
Quality of learning Depends on instructors, Gagetown is often but not always better
Facilities Gagetown
Resources Gagetown
Time off Aldershot typically will provide a more 9-5 schedule, although to some extent it is this way in garrison in Gagetown as well

Also I was wondering if we have weekends off while on these courses (one officer I talked to said it's 6 days a week) Previously if you were not in the field then weekends are off unless confined to barracks (expect that to happen especially at the start of course)

The few officers I've talked to strongly recommended Aldershot because it's an easier course and everyone parties on their off time. I'm not big on partying and Aldershot is quite a ways away from my home town so I'd probably not have much to do on time off but if I go to Gagetown then I could drive home on weekends. You are assuming that you get to choose; the army will likely make this choice for you...I would say that any combat arms officer should be hoping for Gagetown over Aldershot as it will enhance success on trades courses.

I'm hoping this course won't be like BMQ. I found that the the learning pace is incredibly slow, the course material is boring regulations instead of soldiering skills, the instructors are lacking knowledge about basic course material, the pt is pathetic, and the troops are unmotivated (not trying to sound like an a**hole). I can guarantee that you will be challenged on this course. It will be completely unlike BMQ in terms of expectations and I strongly encourage you to adjust your attitude because yes you do sound like a bit of an arrogant a**... PT will not be pathetic, you will have much to learn and much will be expected of you.

Training in Gagetown may provide you with better preparation for your trade training depending on what that is. Last summer they ran a platoon out of Gagetown that was exclusively infantry and I don't believe that prospective infantry officers were permitted to attend the course anywhere else.

BMQL/CAP is a good course and as long as the staff are good (and they typically are), and you commit yourself to the training, you will be well prepared for your future military career. With a slight attitude adjustment you will also end up having a lot of fun and make some great friendships. Best of luck.
Those who beat their swords into plowshares usually end up plowing for those who kept their swords.
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Re: BMOQ Training [MERGED]
« Reply #23 on: March 16, 2017, 15:41:23 »
That should be helpful.  Thanks

You are welcome. Good luck.  :)

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Re: BMOQ Training [MERGED]
« Reply #24 on: March 17, 2017, 02:09:28 »
BMQL/CAP is a good course and as long as the staff are good (and they typically are), and you commit yourself to the training, you will be well prepared for your future military career. With a slight attitude adjustment you will also end up having a lot of fun and make some great friendships. Best of luck. [/color]

I appreciate you taking the time to write such a thorough response.  It's nice to get some insight and up to date information.  That's a big help, thanks!