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Re: Civilian Police lateral to Military Police - Considerations
« Reply #50 on: January 26, 2016, 15:00:40 »
collect a Civilian Police Pension and still wants to go to the Regular Force Military Police.

If given the option,

How many would want to go to the Regular Force Military Police?

How many would want to go to a neighbouring municipality?
There are five municipalities in the GTA. All are in the same OMERS pension plan.
http://www.omers.com/pension/employers_supplemental_plan.aspx
Training and assignments are within the borders of the municipality.
"A successful applicant will receive a credit of 80 hours of lieu time (equivalent of two weeks leave)."
"Up to and including first class constable, applicants will be accepted at their current rank."
1st Class Constable $94,524 ( Base salary, without OT, court, shift bonus, Stat Holidays, Paid Duty etc. )
Add that to a 70 per cent OMERS pension.

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Re: Civilian Police lateral to Military Police - Considerations
« Reply #51 on: January 26, 2016, 20:00:31 »
All this talk about Civilian Police Agencies taking MP Straight across. Does anyone know if the Military Police Branch has discussed or ever considered a program that recognizes civilian police training and qualifications?

I often hear the frustration from Reg Force Qualified MP's who have difficultly having their trg recognized. I am wondering what the concerns are for the opposite circumstance.

Hypothetically speaking ... lets say a civilian police officer - who is a reservist and close to retirement on the Civilian Police side - is looking to collect a Civilian Police Pension and still wants to go to the Regular Force Military Police.

What say you about the possibility of the MP Branch taking an Accredited Civilian Police Officer straight across?
This has been discussed and the general answer is "no".  BUT, there is scope for PLARs to be done, particularly if the Reservist is also a PRes MP, and has someone willing to help them with the leg work on that.

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Re: Civilian Police lateral to Military Police - Considerations
« Reply #52 on: January 26, 2016, 23:51:20 »
 

Edit: nevermind, I read the thread wrong, ha.
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Re: Civilian Police lateral to Military Police - Considerations
« Reply #53 on: January 27, 2016, 05:55:51 »
"Military" "police"... A civilian police officer could certainly bring the latter half of the picture, but would still lack the military knowledge and training. BMQ, and the appropriate environmental indoc course, plus some MP specific duties like convoy ops and military detainee handling.
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Re: Civilian Police lateral to Military Police - Considerations
« Reply #54 on: January 27, 2016, 12:45:11 »
"Military" "police"... A civilian police officer could certainly bring the latter half of the picture, but would still lack the military knowledge and training. BMQ, and the appropriate environmental indoc course, plus some MP specific duties like convoy ops and military detainee handling.

This has been discussed and the general answer is "no".  BUT, there is scope for PLARs to be done, particularly if the Reservist is also a PRes MP, and has someone willing to help them with the leg work on that.

This particular situation references an individual who would have 32 years MP PRes Experience (at the time of retirement) - with a couple of tours - 3 Class C contracts working MP Garrision Patrol Duties - On top of this he will have 25 years Civilian Police Experience with an accredited police service (1800+ mbrs) Civilian Police Trg would encompass both the spectrums of operational and investigative qualifications. With hopefully no blemishes on his Military Service Record.

I appreciate the requirement for BMQ, Driver TRg, etc - That makes sense - Would the Branch ever consider a compressed trg program to cover the Military Law Report writing etc for an old man that potentially has the bulk of the trg that would be taught on QL3.

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Re: Civilian Police lateral to Military Police - Considerations
« Reply #55 on: January 27, 2016, 13:26:27 »
After a PLAR is done and any applicible quals granted the most likely course of action would be for the member to attend blocks of a Res Ql 3 to pick up whatever PO's are outstanding. This is something we've done out here a few times
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Re: Civilian Police lateral to Military Police - Considerations
« Reply #56 on: January 27, 2016, 13:36:27 »
Thanks for the info - Can the PLAR process occur while the mbr is still in the Res?

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Re: Civilian Police lateral to Military Police - Considerations
« Reply #57 on: January 27, 2016, 14:29:22 »
Thanks for the info - Can the PLAR process occur while the mbr is still in the Res?
It has to take place while the member is still PRes as it is part of the CT process.  I would advise starting to prepare the PLARs prior to the actual CT application so that it is ready to go when it is asked for.

As a CT the offer is a lot different than it is for a direct entry with no military background.  The offer message contains details such as rank on enrollment, recognized course qualifications plus the actual position/location they will be posted to so the member will know exactly what they are signing on for.