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Denied enrollment. Now what are my choices?
« on: November 28, 2014, 16:30:51 »
Hey folks,

After two years of process, I now finally have learned that my application to me a CF member has been refused for a failure to adequately meet the CEMS. I fully understand the rationale, and would have chosen similarly had the roles been reversed.

I have been invited to appeal and have reassessments done in a few months, but I have decided to stop wasting taxpayer money on the process and get out of the way in favour of those applicants still in the pipeline.

I am profoundly disappointed, and searching for ways to be okay with this situation. However, like several have pointed out, the CF does not owe me a job, nor am I required to like the decisions taken by its members.

I just have to get on with the job.

thanks for the information I have got from this board. Mods, kindly remove my profile and account. I have no reason to come back.

good luck, everyone. Check six often, and when in doubt, empty the mag......

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Re: Denied enrollment. Now what are my choices?
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2014, 16:40:31 »
Sorry to hear that. Good luck in future endeavors. 

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Re: Denied enrollment. Now what are my choices?
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2014, 16:44:18 »
No shame in not being selected.   You should be proud you even tried.   

Most importantly (in my mind anyway) there are many very important ways in which our amazing society needs support that do not require membership to the Canadian Armed Forces, so hold your head high and continue to help out the country and civilization so the CF has something worth defending. 

Best of luck.

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Re: Denied enrollment. Now what are my choices?
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2014, 16:57:12 »
No shame in not being selected.
That's right.

If you really do want to serve, there are plenty of other ways.

Good luck in the future.

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Re: Denied enrollment. Now what are my choices?
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2014, 07:22:27 »
I thought you had already sworn in and started basic? Sorry to hear the news though aike others have said, there are still ways to serve so be proud that you made it as far as you did and best of luck with what you decide to pursue next.

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Re: Denied enrollment. Now what are my choices?
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2017, 04:40:44 »
Hey Guys!

I have researched medicals backwards, forwards and sideways but I'm coming up short on answers.

I'm in the middle of my application process and I knew going in that my eyesight may be an issue (strong prescription, since infancy) and the Med. Officer confirmed that I was just outside the scope of being "medically fit" as my eyesight scored a 5 and I needed to be a 4 or better. He did say that I should continue to get the rest of my forms completed and sent in because even though I will be rejected as "medically unfit," I can apply for an appeal if I want to pursue laser surgery to correct my vision. This has always been my plan eventually once we had the funds saved up.

My question is, how does that appeal process work? Do you have to request the paperwork or does the recruiting centre automatically give you the appeal paperwork with your rejection notice? Has anyone been rejected due to vision, had the surgery and successfully won their appeal? Or am I better off to just pull my application now? 

I have searched the following topics on this forum: appeals, medical appeal, medical review, medical testing, recruitment process, appeals process, medically unfit, rejected application etc. Google hasn't been much of a help either as it directs me to here, and posts that don't specifically cover what I'm looking for.

Thanks in advance.
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CFAT: February 07, 2017 (Passed)
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Medical: In Progress
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Re: Denied enrollment. Now what are my choices?
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2017, 05:51:49 »
Use Google like this with the search terms you used before:

site:army.ca medical appeal

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=site%3Aarmy.ca+medical+appeal

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Re: Denied enrollment. Now what are my choices?
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2017, 08:02:25 »
My question is, how does that appeal process work?

Medical Review Board/File Review ( merged )
http://milnet.ca/forums/index.php/topic,13453.msg1378166.html#msg1378166
7 pages.

Failed to meet Medical Standards
OP: I'm planning on appealing their decision
https://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,110159.50.html
3 pages.

Challenging a medical decision/Requesting second review 
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=37404.25
2 pages.

Challenging a medical decision/Requesting second review  ( Locked )
http://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,37404.25.html
2 pages.

Medical appeal  ( Locked )
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=68680.0

"Does not Meet Common Enrolment Medical Standards"
OP: Two weeks ago I received my notice that my appeal was successfully over turned.
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=113415.0
2 pages.

Medical rejection seems strange 
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=121893.0

appealing medical rejection for renal colic 
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=119953.0

Medical appeal 
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=68680.0

Asked and answered in Ask a CAF Recruiter,

re: appeals
http://milnet.ca/forums/index.php/topic,123090.msg1440632.html#msg1440632

Q: I have finally sent in an appeal because it takes to long to get in to see a psychiatrist.

A: To appeal any type of Medical disqualification, will require reports from your civilian health care professionals.   

appealing medical rejection
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=119953.0

Bad luck with the RMO 
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=37404.25

Appeals
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=83309.0

Ottawa Medical
OP:  is there any way I can appeal this decision? 
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=35629.0

Medically Unfit - Vision 
http://milnet.ca/forums/index.php/topic,125409.msg1480885.html#msg1480885

etc...

As always,  Recruiting is your most trusted source of information.
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Re: Denied enrollment. Now what are my choices?
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2017, 00:00:15 »
Thanks!

I've been lurking in this forum since January and have been researching and looking for most of my answers through the search feature I was just really struggling with this particular question it seems.

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Re: Denied enrollment. Now what are my choices?
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2017, 08:36:02 »
Thanks!

You are welcome. Good luck.  :)

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Re: Denied enrollment. Now what are my choices?
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2017, 16:23:19 »
I was also just outside the cutoff for V4. I decided to get my surgery done at the beginning of the process, 3 weeks after my CFAT. I took advantage of a promotion (pay in one year with 0% interest) which allowed me to undergo the surgery very early and will allow me to save over the next few months with no penalty. Maybe the timeline is not a concern for you, but if so, some of the major companies (Lasik MD in my case) have those promotions quite regularly.
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