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Re: Paid Physical Fitness Time?
« Reply #75 on: May 08, 2016, 17:37:13 »
Thats not on. Any military fitness facility should be open 0530 to 2200 daily. The extra couple hours at $15/h or so per employee is money in the bank when you consider saved costs from a fit military member, even if they are a Cl A reservist.

But then there won't be enough money to buy new combat boots, or uniforms, or whatever...  >:D
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Re: Paid Physical Fitness Time?
« Reply #76 on: May 08, 2016, 18:22:06 »
If there's a base nearby, reservists can use the base gym no questions asked. Whether they do it or not, is their problem. Regular force members are expected to be ready to go at a moment's notice. If a reservist wants to deploy, they have months to get ready prior to contract award. If that reservist isn't fit, that's a PRes unit CoC failure for nominating someone not in shape.

Not always the case I'm afraid.

As a class B reservist I fought for and was soundly denied permission for myself and other class B pers to use a gym local reg force pers had free access to; if we wanted to use the gym it was $600+ a year.

The reason we couldn't use the gym free of charge was because 15 years prior two privates made a mess in the change room (I kid you not).

When I pushed to get class B members free gym memberships at other local gyms I was told only class B pers on 3 year contracts were eligible; we all know how the reserves and their 89 instead of 90 day contracts feel about benefits.
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Re: Paid Physical Fitness Time?
« Reply #77 on: May 08, 2016, 20:08:27 »
You're telling me if someone is a fat slob, they're entitled to be nominated by their chain for a deployment? What kind of bizzaro world is that? I had a job interview to get a contract for workup training, and had to earn a spot as a Det comd, otherwise I would have deployed as a Cpl.

Those working restrictive hours should reconsider employment in the Reserves then. If they can't devote a couple hours a week to fitness, they're likely too busy to train effectively or be called up when required. They're also likely too busy to prevent a heart attack in their 40s as well.

Although, I've seen some 'Reg Force" fat slobs members who aren't PT poster boys/girls deployed as well (and recently...);the deployment standard right now is the FORCE test for PT.  :nod:
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Re: Paid Physical Fitness Time?
« Reply #78 on: May 09, 2016, 05:28:15 »
On the Reserve side of things, one solution might be to put gyms in armouries.
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Re: Paid Physical Fitness Time?
« Reply #79 on: May 09, 2016, 06:41:08 »
On the Reserve side of things, one solution might be to put gyms in armouries.
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Re: Paid Physical Fitness Time?
« Reply #80 on: May 09, 2016, 07:06:04 »
On the Reserve side of things, one solution might be to put gyms in armouries.

For those units which do have gyms, the CoC has often made it difficult for off duty class A members to be allowed to come in for a workout. Claiming liability issues.
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Re: Paid Physical Fitness Time?
« Reply #81 on: May 09, 2016, 07:29:12 »
On the Reserve side of things, one solution might be to put gyms in armouries.

My unit has one, though it is only open during working hours (0800-1600). It used to be open later but they reduced the hours.  Personally I've never set foot in a gym because I don't know what I'm doing. So I just eat properly and do cardio on my own time.

What is frustrating is that we have a nice parade square, equipped with basketball nets, ball hockey equipment and I believe volley ball nets and it is seldom used outside of unit level PT. Several units share the same armouries and I am fairly certain that there are several nights a week where no one is using it. However I'm paying out of pocket to join a drop in Ball hockey league in my city. I'm fairly certain we could set up a leauge whether it was drop/in or unit vs unit. Definitely have the equipment and people, would just need a group of people to organize and to be authorized to do it..

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Re: Paid Physical Fitness Time?
« Reply #82 on: May 09, 2016, 07:59:54 »
My unit has one, though it is only open during working hours (0800-1600). It used to be open later but they reduced the hours.  Personally I've never set foot in a gym because I don't know what I'm doing. So I just eat properly and do cardio on my own time.

What is frustrating is that we have a nice parade square, equipped with basketball nets, ball hockey equipment and I believe volley ball nets and it is seldom used outside of unit level PT. Several units share the same armouries and I am fairly certain that there are several nights a week where no one is using it. However I'm paying out of pocket to join a drop in Ball hockey league in my city. I'm fairly certain we could set up a leauge whether it was drop/in or unit vs unit. Definitely have the equipment and people, would just need a group of people to organize and to be authorized to do it..

You literally just described my unit. My building belong to the Naval Reserve Division I work for, but we share the base with 2 Army reserve units. Our building has a beautiful, well stocked gym, the drill deck has basketball nets, fittings for volleyball and badminton, and we have a ton of perfectly good sports gear for baseball, ball hockey, and a whole bunch of other sports. Until I came along and started pushing for ball hockey, no one ever used any of it! We even have Yoga gear!

Thats not on. Any military fitness facility should be open 0530 to 2200 daily. The extra couple hours at $15/h or so per employee is money in the bank when you consider saved costs from a fit military member, even if they are a Cl A reservist.

I hope by "any military fitness facility" you mean an actual dedicated gym. We have a gym in our building that's stocked with enough cardio and weight equipment for probably a dozen people to be working out at the same time, but you will not see this building open outside of regular working hours (0800-1600).

For those units which do have gyms, the CoC has often made it difficult for off duty class A members to be allowed to come in for a workout. Claiming liability issues.

While we definitely haven't had the issue of liability come up, that could be because I've never actually seen a Class A member come use the gym outside of regular Class-A parade nights.
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Re: Paid Physical Fitness Time?
« Reply #83 on: May 09, 2016, 08:52:20 »
Good lord, Lumber: You're at HMCS STAR!

Don't complain ( [:)) about the facilities. You should have seen what they had before the fire.

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Re: Paid Physical Fitness Time?
« Reply #84 on: May 09, 2016, 10:32:58 »
Good lord, Lumber: You're at HMCS STAR!

Don't complain ( [:)) about the facilities. You should have seen what they had before the fire.

Feel free to look up the ship's bell: Both of my son's names are engraved there.  [;)

Oh I wasnt complaining  about the facilities, I was decrying the lack of anyone using them!
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