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Re: US Presidential Election 2020
« Reply #550 on: September 20, 2020, 12:20:44 »
Some pundits actually said that the POTUS considered it but was convinced not to for that reason.

Pence is a lot of thing but he is loyal. 
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Re: US Presidential Election 2020
« Reply #551 on: September 20, 2020, 12:24:11 »
Some pundits actually said that the POTUS considered it but was convinced not to for that reason.

Pence is a lot of thing but he is loyal.

Loyal he is.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2020
« Reply #552 on: September 20, 2020, 12:32:20 »
Loyal he is.

Andrew Cuomo vs Mike Pence in 2024?

Pence won’t win the nomination.
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Re: US Presidential Election 2020
« Reply #553 on: September 20, 2020, 15:01:02 »
Continuing from the RBG thread it will be interesting to see if her death and possible replacement moves the needle. Personally I think it wont as people are probably pretty much decided and its a matter of turnout. I don't think that there is a lot of room for error on the Republican side. If I give Arizona, Florida, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Iowa, North Carolina, Ohio and Texas to Trump that gives him a total of 279. Thats with giving Michigan,Minnesota,Nevada,New Hampshire, and Wisconsin to Biden

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Re: US Presidential Election 2020
« Reply #554 on: September 20, 2020, 15:08:38 »
Continuing from the RBG thread it will be interesting to see if her death and possible replacement moves the needle. Personally I think it wont as people are probably pretty much decided and its a matter of turnout. I don't think that there is a lot of room for error on the Republican side. If I give Arizona, Florida, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Iowa, North Carolina, Ohio and Texas to Trump that gives him a total of 279. Thats with giving Michigan,Minnesota,Nevada,New Hampshire, and Wisconsin to Biden

I see it more as being like a dam that's about to burst at any moment!
It can only burst for Biden's advantage because Trump's support can only build slowly and so what Trump has now is pretty much what he gets in the end.
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Re: US Presidential Election 2020
« Reply #555 on: September 20, 2020, 17:55:50 »
Continuing from the RBG thread it will be interesting to see if her death and possible replacement moves the needle. Personally I think it wont as people are probably pretty much decided and its a matter of turnout. I don't think that there is a lot of room for error on the Republican side. If I give Arizona, Florida, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Iowa, North Carolina, Ohio and Texas to Trump that gives him a total of 279. Thats with giving Michigan,Minnesota,Nevada,New Hampshire, and Wisconsin to Biden

I agree.  People have likely made up their minds.  And I agree it will be about turn out.  People sacred about what could happen with a real conservative majority on the bench and those hoping for one.

Either way, it will have a profound impact on the US for decades.
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Re: US Presidential Election 2020
« Reply #556 on: September 20, 2020, 19:29:10 »
An interesting, if somewhat out of left field prediction. Pity there is no link back to the original to run it through the translator, but the assumptions (looking at various market indicators) have been long understood and accepted in other contexts:

https://voxday.blogspot.com/2020/09/chinese-index-predicts-trumpslide.html

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A Chinese reader has sent me a translation of an article from a Chinese website that refers to a manufacturing index often used for predictive purposes on the basis of orders received for relevant physical goods.

The US election in November is getting closer, and the campaign situation is getting more and more confusing. Many international media and forecasting agencies have also speculated. After all, whoever is elected will affect the international current situation and the interests of the public and enterprises. So, which party's forecast is accurate? In the last US presidential election, American forecasters predicted that Hillary Clinton would be elected, but at the last minute, Trump, a dark horse, came from behind and made it to the presidential throne. However, at that time, China's Yiwu Index showed that Trump would be elected, and the result was exactly as predicted. So, who will predict this year's US presidential election accurately?

As the U.S. presidential election draws closer, whether the White House will change hands, and if transactions become one of the focuses of investors' most attention. A survey conducted by the US media CNBC in early September showed that most stock strategists expected the Democratic candidate Biden to win the presidential election. Among the 20 strategists surveyed, 14 believe that Biden will defeat the current President Trump, and 3 strategists expect Trump to win. One of them pointed out that the situation in the swing state of Florida will determine Trump's future. Of the 20 strategists, 19 are from the United States and 1 from the Asia-Pacific region.

On the whole, domestic and foreign media are not optimistic about Trump. However, in the eyes of Chinese Yiwu businessmen, the result of the US election has been settled. Trump will definitely win the US presidential election and be re-elected as president! Why Yiwu merchants say this is mainly because they hold a mysterious "Yiwu Index".

Yiwu Small Commodities Merchants are Counting Commodities

Yiwu Index is a very interesting concept. It is the abbreviation of "Yiwu·China Commodity Index", which mainly reflects the price and prosperity of Yiwu small commodities. Generally speaking, the higher the Yiwu index of a small commodity, the broader its market prospects. The Yiwu Index is now the fifth largest intelligence agency in the world, a rising star in the intelligence system, especially in light of the last US election as it accurately predicted the presidential election in advance.

Experts can analyze the trend of the international market through the changes in Yiwu order data, and make predictions on international events based on this. For example, the BLM movement broke out in the United States and people demonstrated for equal rights. At the same time, Yiwu also received a large number of orders for propaganda materials, which determined that this protest would not end in a short time. This was indeed the case. The United States is about to begin the general election campaign, in which candidates will inevitably need a large number of campaign items, and Yiwu, as the world's small commodity distribution center, can use the data displayed by orders as a basis for judging the situation.

In the eyes of small businesses in Yiwu, the results of mainstream American polling agencies are false, as only "orders will not be faked", because more orders for aid materials mean that the campaign team’s funds are richer and there are more supporters. For example, in the past few months, Yiwu merchant Li Qingxiang has received more than 100,000 orders for Trump’s support flags, support hats, and even support masks and face towels. However, Biden’s support flags have only sold few thousand copies. From this perspective, Trump's true approval rate may be much higher than Biden.

Although there is not much rigorous scientific basis for using the Yiwu Index to infer the results of the U.S. general election, Yiwu, as the world's largest distribution center for small commodities, tends to be reliable in election politics in Europe and the United States. In today's world, the Yiwu Index can indeed become a "barometer" of many political hot events.
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Re: US Presidential Election 2020
« Reply #557 on: September 20, 2020, 22:11:34 »
Continuing from the RBG thread it will be interesting to see if her death and possible replacement moves the needle.

Maybe. Maybe not. But, after the Republicans confirmed Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court in July 2018, "the Dems" won control of the House with the biggest ever margin of victory in total votes cast in a midterm election.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2020
« Reply #558 on: September 21, 2020, 11:40:00 »
Maybe. Maybe not. But, after the Republicans confirmed Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court in July 2018, "the Dems" won control of the House with the biggest ever margin of victory in total votes cast in a midterm election.

Very doubtful that confirming Kavanaugh resulted in any upswing for the Democrats. What it 'did' do was dramatically cause more polarization.





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Re: US Presidential Election 2020
« Reply #559 on: September 22, 2020, 08:31:22 »
Very doubtful that confirming Kavanaugh resulted in any upswing for the Democrats. What it 'did' do was dramatically cause more polarization.

Maybe a similar effect as the "migrant caravan" had on voters?

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Re: US Presidential Election 2020
« Reply #560 on: September 22, 2020, 08:44:03 »
Very doubtful that confirming Kavanaugh resulted in any upswing for the Democrats. What it 'did' do was dramatically cause more polarization.

No upswing as far as support goes but donations to the Biden Campaign spiked significantly when Trump announced he would nominate soon.
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Re: US Presidential Election 2020
« Reply #561 on: September 22, 2020, 09:34:09 »
Pence won’t win the nomination.

Agreed. Give the Democrats a nice, simple, Republican establishment “electro-shock the gays” evangelical to campaign against and they’ll rip him apart. Demographics are not on the side of the religious right candidates at the national level. Even in the hypothetical situation of a Trump victory this year, the Republicans will still have one hell of a hangover come 2024, and will face a real challenge in following up on that with their next candidate.
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Re: US Presidential Election 2020
« Reply #562 on: September 22, 2020, 13:01:20 »
Give the Democrats a nice, simple, Republican establishment “electro-shock the gays” evangelical to campaign against and they’ll rip him apart. Demographics are not on the side of the religious right candidates at the national level.

guess  the GOP will "ride or die" with the Trumps ( Daddy, Ivanka, Junior or Eric in 2024 ).

They saw how "traditional" Republicans ( McCain and Romney ) did in 2008 and 2012.

Trivia: As far as religion is concerned, if elected, Joe Biden would be the second Catholic president in US history. President Kennedy,  also Democratic, was the first, and so far, only Catholic president.
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Re: US Presidential Election 2020
« Reply #563 on: September 22, 2020, 18:43:12 »
I voted in person in May with social distancing. No issue. I am leery of mail in ballots which could be lost or stole. The woman who was arrested at the border is charged with trying to kill Trump. Previously she had been arrested in Texas for caring a firearm. This time she had a knife and a fireaem. She thinks lead poisoning may be better than Ricin. She is definitely looking at a long stay in a Federal prison. Perhaps she is mentally unstable which could help with an insanity plea.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2020
« Reply #564 on: September 22, 2020, 20:30:49 »
guess  the GOP will "ride or die" with the Trumps ( Daddy, Ivanka, Junior or Eric in 2024 ).

They saw how "traditional" Republicans ( McCain and Romney ) did in 2008 and 2012.

Trivia: As far as religion is concerned, if elected, Joe Biden would be the second Catholic president in US history. President Kennedy,  also Democratic, was the first, and so far, only Catholic president.

I am willing to challenge you on your guess. No one either directly related to POTUS 45 or by marriage will be a candidate for the Republicans in 2024. I will bet a 24 of any beer you like on this. 
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Re: US Presidential Election 2020
« Reply #565 on: September 23, 2020, 20:16:52 »
There seems to be an essential disconnect between what is being reported and actual events on the ground. This report suggests that there is actually no, or at a minimum, an extremely ineffectual Biden campaign being run in Michigan. This does not square with reports of the Biden campaign being up however many points on Trump:

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2020/09/18/this-is-whats-making-democrats-nervous-about-joe-bidens-michigan-operation-n2576430?utm_source=thdailypm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl&newsletterad=09/18/2020&bcid=87668faa55a6a656f80b1551842f0d56&recip=25510199

This Is What's Making Democrats Nervous About Joe Biden's Michigan Operation
 Matt Vespa Posted: Sep 18, 2020 6:00 AM

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It could be that it’s a non-existent operation.

Time magazine said they could really find a field office. There is no army of volunteers. The only way you’d know that Joe Biden was supposedly ahead of Donald Trump here is due to the flawed polling peddled by liberal news outlets. There is no ground operation. That’s an open secret. It’s an open admission by Biden staffers. The lengthy piece does list ‘this, that, and the other’ from other Democrats concerning how the Biden camp is reaching voters in the COVID era. All is well, they say. But there are scores of other local liberal activists and Democratic Party chairs in the state who think that Biden can and should do more. They note the race is closer than the polls suggest—sound familiar—and when Michael Moore is worried—you know there’s something to be wary of as a Democrat. Moore was one of the few liberals who felt that Trump could win, as he is a Michigan native. And he recently fired off a warning flare noting that the polls in Michigan are tightening up and that enthusiasm for Trump is through the roof. For Biden, not so much (via Time):

Four years ago, Don Sabbe made what he calls a “devastating” mistake. Determined only to cast a vote for a candidate he believed in, he left the top of his ballot blank in the 2016 presidential election. This year, the 83-year old former Chrysler employee says he’ll definitely vote for Joe Biden, but he’s getting concerned about Biden’s campaign here in Michigan.
“I can’t even find a sign,” Sabbe says outside a Kroger’s in Sterling Heights, where surrounding cars fly massive Donald Trump flags that say “No More Bullsh-t” and fellow shoppers wear Trump T-shirts for their weekend grocery runs. “I’m looking for one of those storefronts. I’m looking for a campaign office for Biden. And I’m not finding one.”
The reason Sabbe can’t find a dedicated Biden campaign field office is because there aren’t any around here. Not in Macomb County, the swing region where Sabbe lives. It’s not even clear Biden has opened any new dedicated field offices in the state; because of the pandemic, they’ve moved their field organizing effort online. The Biden campaign in Michigan refused to confirm the location of any physical field offices despite repeated requests; they say they have “supply centers” for handing out signs, but would not confirm those locations. The campaign also declined to say how many of their Michigan staff were physically located here. Biden’s field operation in this all-important state is being run through the Michigan Democratic Party’s One Campaign, which is also not doing physical canvassing or events at the moment. When I ask Biden campaign staffers and Democratic Party officials how many people they have on the ground in Michigan, one reply stuck out: “What do you mean by ‘on the ground?'”
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In short, in one of the most important swing states in the country, Biden’s campaign is all but invisible to the naked eye. His lack of a physical footprint is all the more striking because Trump flags festoon everything from pickup trucks to massive airplane parts being transported down the highway. Roughly 30 Trump supporters gathered to protest outside the Biden event last week, waving their flags and cheering as passing cars honked. (Roughly eight Biden supporters showed up.) After driving around some of the state’s swing districts for the past week, talking to than dozens of voters, the only reason you’d think Biden was up in Michigan is because the polls have consistently said so.

Not being there killed Clinton's campaign in 2016, and it looks like the Biden campaign seems to be making the same mistake on steroids - ignoring traditionally "Blue" states in the expectation that they will simply continue to vote fo the Democrats. Given the massive economic changes between 2016 and 2019 (which is what will motivate most voters), along with anger directed at local Democrat mayors and governors for closing their localities for business, I can see this having a significant effect, not just at the Presidential level, but all the way "down-line" as well. Throw in the rapidly shifting Middle East peace process, riots in Democrat cities, China and the Supreme court nomination battle, and even normally apolitical people are going to find their certainties shifted from under them. The Trump campaign is working to take advantage of this, what is the Biden campaign doing, exactly?
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Re: US Presidential Election 2020
« Reply #567 on: September 23, 2020, 22:15:48 »
Do you put a lot of faith in "fact checkers"?
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« Reply #568 on: September 23, 2020, 22:33:40 »
I do sometimes.

Especially when I look at conservative news sources of articles. 

National Review comes to mind.  While I don’t always agree with their opinions I trust their facts in part because of what media bias has to say about it.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2020
« Reply #569 on: September 23, 2020, 23:21:12 »
I can't even say I'm surprised at this point.

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US election: Trump won't commit to peaceful transfer of power

US President Donald Trump has refused to commit to a peaceful transfer of power if he loses November's election.

"Well, we'll have to see what happens," the president told a news conference at the White House. "You know that."

Mr Trump also said he believed the election result could end up in the US Supreme Court, as he again cast doubt on postal voting.

More states are encouraging mail-in voting, citing the need to keep Americans safe from coronavirus.

Mr Trump was asked by a reporter on Wednesday evening if he would commit to a peaceful transfer of power "win, lose or draw" to Democrat Joe Biden. The president currently trails his challenger in national opinion polls with 41 days to go until the election.

"I've been complaining very strongly about the ballots," Mr Trump, a Republican, said. "And the ballots are a disaster."

When the journalist countered that "people are rioting", Mr Trump interjected: "Get rid of the ballots, and you'll have a very - you'll have a very peaceful - there won't be a transfer, frankly, there'll be a continuation."

Back in 2016, Mr Trump also refused to commit to accept the election results in his contest against the Democratic candidate, Hillary Clinton, which she characterised as an attack on democracy.

He was eventually declared the winner, although he lost the popular vote by three million, an outcome he still questioned.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2020
« Reply #570 on: September 23, 2020, 23:41:14 »
I don't see the media asking Biden if he would concede so why should Trump ?
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Re: US Presidential Election 2020
« Reply #571 on: September 24, 2020, 00:10:45 »
Well, I suppose the Democrats have so clearly stated they're committed to a peaceful and orderly transition that there's nothing to worry about.
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Re: US Presidential Election 2020
« Reply #572 on: September 24, 2020, 06:15:35 »
I don't see the media asking Biden if he would concede so why should Trump ?

Well Trump has said that the only way he will lose is if the election is rigged.  So it is a fair question. I do not think that Biden has stated that.

Have we ever seen a President be asked that?  Has a President ever claimed what the current one is?
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Re: US Presidential Election 2020
« Reply #573 on: September 24, 2020, 06:51:38 »
No one either directly related to POTUS 45 or by marriage will be a candidate for the Republicans in 2024.

I just know what I read on here,

And Ivanka has eight years of apprenticeship before succeeding him.

Has a President ever claimed what the current one is?

He is riding a train he can't get off.

After he leaves office, he loses the immunity from criminal prosecution that presidents are granted by Justice Department policy.
https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/Trump-after-surviving-impeachment-could-face-15039866.php

I do sometimes.

Especially when I look at conservative news sources of articles. 

I do too. Especially after a respected member described this site - which we all love - as "a Trump bukkake-fest".

He went on to say,

"I regret (more than you can imagine) that my preference for facts and thinking is at odds with the majority of group-think in this thread.  Yes, I've done a reality-check, wondering if I'm 'the only one in step,'  and while I can understand some of the emotions behind this 'movement' I just can't understand the suspension of thought that embracing it requires (unless that sort of thing was never one's strong suit anyway)."

So, when I see links posted to "articles" from what are clearly alt-right (if that word still exists) propaganda churning disinformation sites, yes, I do question it.


 
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Re: US Presidential Election 2020
« Reply #574 on: September 24, 2020, 09:00:08 »
I can't even say I'm surprised at this point.

https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54274115#share-tools

It's a game he's better off not playing, in my opinion.

If he says no, he confirms the worst fears of his opponents.

If he says yes, they will assume he's lying anyway.

So not saying anything is his best option.