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Horrific shooting in Las Vegas.  The world has gone mad.

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A Nevada sheriff says the death toll has climbed to 50 in the attack on a Las Vegas concert Sunday, making it the deadliest shooting in modern U.S. history.

Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo says more than 200 people were wounded at the Route 91 Harvest Music Festival on the Strip.

Authorities have identified the suspected gunman as Las Vegas resident Stephen Paddock.

Lombardo says officers confronted Paddock on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Hotel and Casino across the street from the concert. Paddock is dead.

Authorities say they have located 62-year-old Marilou Danley, who was wanted as a person of interest in this incident.

The dead gunman is also believed to have checked in as a hotel guest.

At this time there is in excess of 50 deceased and over 200 injured individuals.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/las-vegas-shooting-1.4316121

Titled updated with number of killed and wounded. - mm
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Re: 50 dead over 200 wounded in Las Vegas shooting 1 Oct 2017
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2017, 08:32:53 »
This is the initial radio traffic for the incident, pretty harrowing.

https://soundcloud.com/alertpage-1/initial-radio-traffic-las-vegasnv
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Re: 50 dead over 200 wounded in Las Vegas shooting 1 Oct 2017
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2017, 09:10:44 »
This from the Las Vegas police - full statement also attached ...
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The Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department identified the lone suspect involved in the late-night mass shooting on the Las Vegas Strip as 64-year-old, Stephen Craig Paddock, a white male from Mesquite, Nevada. 

Paddock opened fire on a crowd of more than 22,000 concert-goers from his hotel room on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Hotel on Sunday evening at approximately 10:08 p.m. The victims were across the street attending the Route 91 Harvest Festival concert when bullets rang out. LVMPD SWAT responded to the call, breached the hotel room and found the suspect dead.

The Clark County Fire Department estimated that approximately 406 people were transported to area hospitals and 50 are dead following Sunday evening’s shooting.  Among the dead is an LVMPD officer who was off-duty at the time. His name is being withheld pending notification of next of kin. There were also two on-duty officers injured, one of whom was upgraded recently from critical to stable condition. The other sustained non-life threatening wounds ...
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Re: 50 dead over 200 wounded in Las Vegas shooting 1 Oct 2017
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2017, 09:34:55 »
What a crazy world this is.His girl friend is an employee at the hotel and may have assisted him in stashing his weapons in the hotel room. Time will tell. The area trauma centers must have been severely taxed as well.Prayers out for the injured and deceased.

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Re: 50 dead over 200 wounded in Las Vegas shooting 1 Oct 2017
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2017, 10:04:18 »
So sad.  What drives people to such evil acts ?
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Re: 50 dead over 200 wounded in Las Vegas shooting 1 Oct 2017
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2017, 11:44:51 »
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/las-vegas-shooting-live-casino-music-festival-shooters-gunmen-white-male-stephen-paddock-mandalay-a7977916.html

ISIS claims responsibility. (But they would wouldn't they?)
Interesting, indeed - especially in light of no such claim on the Edmonton attack as of this post.

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Re: 50 dead over 200 wounded in Las Vegas shooting 1 Oct 2017
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2017, 11:54:29 »
What a terrible and sinister thing.  I heard around work the shooter may have used an M240 machinegun, which might account for the death and injured toll.

I'm not sure if it's better to hope if the shooter was captured so he can spend the rest of his life in prison or that he simply shot and killed and his story never told.
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Re: 50 dead over 200 wounded in Las Vegas shooting 1 Oct 2017
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2017, 12:00:35 »
He was shooting into a crowd of 22,000 apparently, so not hard to miss and at an angle to generate grievous wounds. As for what and why, I wait, the first 48 hrs is always full of misinformation.

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Re: 50 dead over 200 wounded in Las Vegas shooting 1 Oct 2017
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2017, 12:57:20 »
... the first 48 hrs is always full of misinformation.
Yup ...
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Re: 50 dead over 200 wounded in Las Vegas shooting 1 Oct 2017
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2017, 17:21:38 »
Cas equate to taking a Cdn Inf Bn out of the ORBAT.

Any info on the wpns used?
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Re: 50 dead over 200 wounded in Las Vegas shooting 1 Oct 2017
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2017, 17:43:32 »
Cas equate to taking a Cdn Inf Bn out of the ORBAT.

Any info on the wpns used?

Watching the videos, there are too many rounds being fired to be a 30 rd mag......Sounds more like a belt fed MG.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/las-vegas-shooting-1.4316121

http://heavy.com/news/2017/10/stephen-paddock-las-vegas-route-91-mandalay-bay-shooting-shooter-gunman-suspect-photos-motive/
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Re: 50 dead over 200 wounded in Las Vegas shooting 1 Oct 2017
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2017, 17:56:36 »
Why, why, why would this ******* do this?  Very upsetting to watch the videos.

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Re: 50 dead over 200 wounded in Las Vegas shooting 1 Oct 2017
« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2017, 18:10:55 »
Watching the videos, there are too many rounds being fired to be a 30 rd mag......Sounds more like a belt fed MG.

Did you count all the rounds? Are you counting all the echos and snaps that aren't original gunshots? Very easy for this have been an illegally modified AR-15 variant that's firing in automatic. In the CBC video there's also a distinctive pitch change from something that sounds like a 5.56mm rifle to something more like a 7.62mm rifle. Lets not contribute to the panic and misinformation.

And for something unrelated to gun speculation, the tolerate Democrats of America are out in full force with this gem:

https://twitter.com/TheBrandonMorse/status/914885815901319168/photo/1

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Re: 50 dead over 200 wounded in Las Vegas shooting 1 Oct 2017
« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2017, 18:54:39 »
Did you count all the rounds? Are you counting all the echos and snaps that aren't original gunshots? Very easy for this have been an illegally modified AR-15 variant that's firing in automatic. In the CBC video there's also a distinctive pitch change from something that sounds like a 5.56mm rifle to something more like a 7.62mm rifle. Lets not contribute to the panic and misinformation.

Just caught part of a news update on Sirius Radio and if I heard it correctly, the police spokesman mentioned that both 5.56 and 7.62 mm weapons being used. Also, something about an automatic weapon being used and it was being investigated whether a fill auto weapon was used or one that had being modified for full auto. Unfortunately, the spokesman answers came in loud and clear, but the questions were garbled.
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Re: 50 dead over 200 wounded in Las Vegas shooting 1 Oct 2017
« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2017, 20:18:36 »
... Lets not contribute to the panic and misinformation ...
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Re: 50 dead over 200 wounded in Las Vegas shooting 1 Oct 2017
« Reply #18 on: October 02, 2017, 20:24:14 »
Lets not contribute to the panic and misinformation.
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Really?  A question was asked and a possible answer was given.  Have we been invaded by the Antifa?
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Re: 50 dead over 200 wounded in Las Vegas shooting 1 Oct 2017
« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2017, 20:52:28 »
Did you count all the rounds? Are you counting all the echos and snaps that aren't original gunshots? Very easy for this have been an illegally modified AR-15 variant that's firing in automatic. In the CBC video there's also a distinctive pitch change from something that sounds like a 5.56mm rifle to something more like a 7.62mm rifle. Lets not contribute to the panic and misinformation.

And for something unrelated to gun speculation, the tolerate Democrats of America are out in full force with this gem:

https://twitter.com/TheBrandonMorse/status/914885815901319168/photo/1

Police sources have apparently confirmed both 5.56 and .308. The dude had an assload of rifles in there, at least some of them clearly capable of fully automatic fire. I hardly think speculating on these details as they emerge contributes to 'panic', and it's only 'misinformation' is speculation is presented as definite fact, which it was not.
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Re: 50 dead over 200 wounded in Las Vegas shooting 1 Oct 2017
« Reply #21 on: October 02, 2017, 21:45:36 »
Police sources have apparently confirmed both 5.56 and .308. The dude had an assload of rifles in there, at least some of them clearly capable of fully automatic fire. I hardly think speculating on these details as they emerge contributes to 'panic', and it's only 'misinformation' is speculation is presented as definite fact, which it was not.

There's been no credible media sources stating a "belt fed machine gun" was found. That term is only being used by those pushing an immediate counter-gun agenda. There are reports that 2 devices, likely "bump stocks" were found to be able to convert semi-automatic AR-15s and AK-47s to automatic fire. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/02/vegas-shooters-weapons-cache-included-devices-enabling-automatic-gunfire-report-says.html Bump stock demonstration video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gWrthH2OK4

Stating that someone had access to, and used a belt fed machine gun serves nothing but to further scare an already scared public, and push an agenda. Its hyperbole at its finest. In my 15 years in the CAF firing all sorts of NATO and Soviet-bloc weapons, nothing in the audio suggests to me "belt-fed machine gun". There's magazine/weapons swap time inbetween bursts, and distinct changes in audio from caliber changes.

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Re: 50 dead over 200 wounded in Las Vegas shooting 1 Oct 2017
« Reply #22 on: October 02, 2017, 22:04:48 »
There's been no credible media sources stating a "belt fed machine gun" was found.

Based on my interpretation of the audio, my money would be on a drum fed weapon.  "Belt-fed"/"drum-fed" means the same to the media as "LAV" means "tank"
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Re: 50 dead over 200 wounded in Las Vegas shooting 1 Oct 2017
« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2017, 22:45:54 »
Police have now found more guns in a property associated with the shooter, and have found ammonium nitrate in his car... The rabbit hole goes deeper...
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Re: 50 dead over 200 wounded in Las Vegas shooting 1 Oct 2017
« Reply #24 on: October 02, 2017, 22:49:49 »
I spent most of my career working an MCI bus, but we never dreamed of anything like this.

The worst mass-shooting in the history of the city was 2 killed and 22 injured. That was after I retired, and the record still stands.

We used to stage and wait for the Emergency Task Force. But, the Rescue Task Force model is the way they operate now.
They used it last night in Las Vegas.
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