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Re: Hawaii Ballistic Missile Threat Warning 13 Jan 18 - Big Mistake
« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2018, 10:42:10 »
I thought it was a remote possibility, but still one that could happen.

As a nuclear target analyst (I got the qualification four moths after I was commissioned because I had led the threshold test for the 1 RCHA officer professional development programme and got loaded on the course as a reward(?) so I spent a week in Shilo working with gee whizz material) I knew much of the data available to the public was wildly exaggerated, but it still was sobering. It still is.

Perspective is the operative term, I guess.  I understand yours. 

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Re: Hawaii Ballistic Missile Threat Warning 13 Jan 18 - Big Mistake
« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2018, 11:01:19 »
I lived through the Cold War and can honestly say that I never once felt afraid of nuclear obliteration. 
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Re: Hawaii Ballistic Missile Threat Warning 13 Jan 18 - Big Mistake
« Reply #27 on: January 14, 2018, 11:09:30 »
There are profits to be made off of the end of the world.  Go capitalism!   ;D

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Re: Hawaii Ballistic Missile Threat Warning 13 Jan 18 - Big Mistake
« Reply #28 on: January 14, 2018, 11:40:16 »
Hawaii might be one of the safer places to be in the event of a missile attack:


U.S. conducts missile defense test off Hawaii coast

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-defense/u-s-conducts-missile-defense-test-off-hawaii-coast-idUSKCN1BA19M
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Re: Hawaii Ballistic Missile Threat Warning 13 Jan 18 - Big Mistake
« Reply #30 on: January 14, 2018, 20:38:30 »
One of the responses I've seen in the news here is a guy who popped open a man hole cover and put his kids down below. In a real situation that would likely be a really good spot in a pinch.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5266571/How-Hawaii-gripped-panic-false-missile-warning.html

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Re: Hawaii Ballistic Missile Threat Warning 13 Jan 18 - Big Mistake
« Reply #31 on: January 14, 2018, 23:07:41 »
I'm not live in Hawaii but I still receive this message, scared the crap out of me :)

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Re: Hawaii Ballistic Missile Threat Warning 13 Jan 18 - Big Mistake
« Reply #32 on: January 14, 2018, 23:42:30 »
One of the responses I've seen in the news here is a guy who popped open a man hole cover and put his kids down below. In a real situation that would likely be a really good spot in a pinch.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5266571/How-Hawaii-gripped-panic-false-missile-warning.html

Until he realizes that the overpressure resulting from a nuclear weapon going off in his vicinity would push all the water upwards in the sewage systems and drown them?

Nothing like a good old deeply dug fire trench, with stout revetting and OHP!
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Re: Hawaii Ballistic Missile Threat Warning 13 Jan 18 - Big Mistake
« Reply #33 on: January 15, 2018, 00:15:17 »
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Until he realizes that the overpressure resulting from a nuclear weapon going off in his vicinity would push all the water upwards in the sewage systems and drown them?

Lots of factors coming into play there.  These systems go into the ocean, downhill for the most part. Pressure changes would be very strong but short lived so I don't think the pressure difference would last long enough to pull all the water up. It beats standing in the middle of the road or the basement of a building that's going to very likely collapse.

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Nothing like a good old deeply dug fire trench, with stout revetting and OHP!

Where are you going to find one of those when you got 20 min or so to get to cover?






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Re: Hawaii Ballistic Missile Threat Warning 13 Jan 18 - Big Mistake
« Reply #34 on: January 15, 2018, 01:20:57 »
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Where are you going to find one of those when you got 20 min or so to get to cover?
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Re: Hawaii Ballistic Missile Threat Warning 13 Jan 18 - Big Mistake
« Reply #35 on: January 15, 2018, 10:20:30 »
Lots of luck with that. Most of the energy generated by a nuclear or thermonuclear detonation is in the form of blast and thermal. I fear the best defence is to be somewhere else than the target area, and I mean in multiples of tens of kilometres in the case of major yields.

If you can get below ground in a reinforced shelter, preferably with food and water supplies, you could survive being closer, but it is dodgy.

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Re: Hawaii Ballistic Missile Threat Warning 13 Jan 18 - Big Mistake
« Reply #36 on: January 15, 2018, 10:27:15 »

Be prepared. Dig for Victory!

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I'd rather get hit by a nuke than pay 40 grand for that.

It wouldn't withstand a near hit anyways. If it's to protect from fallout, you'd get a good face full of it as soon as you open the hatch.

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Re: Hawaii Ballistic Missile Threat Warning 13 Jan 18 - Big Mistake
« Reply #37 on: January 15, 2018, 12:23:14 »
This is also assuming you have time to make it to your bunker.
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Re: Hawaii Ballistic Missile Threat Warning 13 Jan 18 - Big Mistake
« Reply #38 on: January 15, 2018, 12:26:10 »
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I'm not live in Hawaii but I still receive this message, scared the crap out of me

What is your general location? If you are outside Hawaii that is pretty odd.
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Re: Hawaii Ballistic Missile Threat Warning 13 Jan 18 - Big Mistake
« Reply #39 on: January 15, 2018, 12:51:05 »
One of the guys here in the Section said his daughter and her husband were in Hawaii over the weekend.  I guess it was a total Benny Hill event with people understandably panicking and freaking out.  Abandoning vehicles on the highway and running into the bush, trying to figure which kid to hold onto at the end etc.  I can only imagine.

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Re: Hawaii Ballistic Missile Threat Warning 13 Jan 18 - Big Mistake
« Reply #40 on: January 15, 2018, 14:02:28 »
I wonder how many people confessed sins, thinking the end was nigh, only have to face the music when it all came to settle lol
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Re: Hawaii Ballistic Missile Threat Warning 13 Jan 18 - Big Mistake
« Reply #42 on: January 15, 2018, 15:57:12 »
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I wonder how many people confessed sins, thinking the end was nigh, only have to face the music when it all came to settle lol

Heard from a friend here that a group of people went into a parkade and had no cell phone reception. The cleaning woman apparently led them in a prayer. ha. It's comedy gold.
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Re: Hawaii Ballistic Missile Threat Warning 13 Jan 18 - Big Mistake
« Reply #43 on: January 16, 2018, 10:03:48 »
Not to outdone, now Japan's public broadcaster wants a piece of the action.

 http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/world/japan-false-alarm-missile-north-korea-1.4489142

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Re: Hawaii Ballistic Missile Threat Warning 13 Jan 18 - Big Mistake
« Reply #44 on: January 18, 2018, 13:53:13 »
Going Out With A Bang

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2018/01/18/pornhub-usage-spiked-in-hawaii-after-false-ballistic-missile-alert.html?cmpid=NL_SciTech

Pornhub usage spiked in Hawaii after false ballistic missile alert - 18 Jan 18

Pornhub reported its website's traffic in Hawaii drastically increased on Saturday after residents were told a ballistic missile attack alert was a mistake.

The website tweeted Wednesday a graph of the day’s traffic in Hawaii, and noted page views dropped drastically after the ballistic missile alert was sent out at 8:07 a.m. HST. Pornhub said in a statement the traffic was “a massive -77 percent below that of a typical Saturday.”

Hawaii on alert! https://t.co/JzqpXe5ejz pic.twitter.com/4AeOpDDaZ6

— Pornhub ARIA (@Pornhub) January 17, 2018

However, once residents were notified around 8:45 a.m. HST that the alert was a false alarm and there was no threat, traffic on the porn site shot up, Pornhub reported.

“Those seeking further relief, headed back to Pornhub where pageviews surged +48 percent above typical levels at 9:01 a.m. (local time),” the website said.

The emergency alert blunder caused more than 1 million people in Hawaii to fear they were about to be struck by a nuclear missile.

Hawaii Emergency Management Agency spokesman Richard Rapoza said an employee mistakenly hit the live alert button, which sent out the false message. Rapoza said the worker has since been reassigned.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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