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There was an activist getting sound bites in the after events who was saying she was disappointed the attack never happened.

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If the police don't want to investigate further, there's always child services. They have a bag of tricks not available to the police.

I also need to agree with some others here. The time from incident to national exposure was done with the deftness of a Sergeants Major doing a running replen. The wheels were in motion before this kid even reported it. I read that the mother (?) is also an islamic activist and reasonably well known.

Investigate her for what? Being a child and telling a lie to likely stay out of trouble? For adults blowing the story out of proportion? What exactly should she be nailed for?

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She is a child and under 12 yoa.  Adults are another matter.  Public mischief is a possible starting point for adults.

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Investigate her for what? Being a child and telling a lie to likely stay out of trouble? For adults blowing the story out of proportion? What exactly should she be nailed for?


I know you love jumping down my throat whenever I show up, but , once again, in your zeal to attack me, you didn't read what I wrote. Nor did you, typically, ask for clarification. Nope, straight to the attack. I said nothing about a  child. Parents can also be investigated by child services. I'd forgotten why I  had you on ignore. After opening and looking your post, I  recall. In the meantime, feel free to go sexually intercourse yourself. Back to the status quo.
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I also need to agree with some others here. The time from incident to national exposure was done with the deftness of a Sergeants Major doing a running replen. The wheels were in motion before this kid even reported it. I read that the mother (?) is also an islamic activist and reasonably well known.


Actually, the time from incident to national exposure was done with the deftness of very professional use of social media by the Toronto Police Service followed by the quick reaction from the Toronto District School Board who sent a representative from their PA dept who organized the media conference at the school to corral the reporters who showed up there in response to the TPS twitter.

So, an eleven year old child told a story that got away from her;
The TPS, in response to a possible threat to other children, very quickly provided warning via social media (as they should - well done);
Reporters, notified of a possible story in the making from the police tweets, converged on the school (ID given in tweets) just like good reporters would be expected;
The school board, knowing that reporters were outside the school and expecting them to be a distraction to other students and an annoyance to the child in question and her family, dispatched a spokesperson who then organized a press conference at the school that included a police spokesperson and the child.
https://globalnews.ca/news/3965061/toronto-police-girl-hijab-attack-investigation/
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With respect to a press conference held on Friday, Toronto District School Board corporate and social media relations manager Ryan Bird said in a written statement that a spokesperson was sent to the school after members of the media attended outside the school. He said the family was asked if they wanted to appear with the spokesperson.

“After expressing concern that they were going to be approached by media outside while trying to leave, as well as a concern that no members of the community be subject to the alleged perpetrator, the family was asked if they would like to join the TDSB spokesperson as she spoke to media,” Bird wrote.

“The family members said they would speak to media and it was our understanding that this happened after, not before, they provided statements to police.”

Bird said school board officials are “very thankful that this assault did not in fact happen.”

“Our motivation for commenting on the issue at the time was only out of compassion, care, concern and support — as did many elected leaders nationally, provincially and locally via interviews or social media.”

So yes, it sounds like a well organized conspiracy.

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I know you love jumping down my throat whenever I show up, but , once again, in your zeal to attack me, you didn't read what I wrote. Nor did you, typically, ask for clarification. Nope, straight to the attack. I said nothing about a  child. Parents can also be investigated by child services. I'd forgotten why I  had you on ignore. After opening and looking your post, I  recall. In the meantime, feel free to go sexually intercourse yourself. Back to the status quo.

What attack? I read what you wrote,m where you stated that, "if the police don't want to investigate further, there's always child services. They have a bag of tricks not available to the police." So the question was investigate her for what? What would you have child services investigate this child for?

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I tend to agree with Jarnhamar's statement and think that the only "Islamophobia" that we will be seeing in the future will be the fear of the Government and Police to deal with anything related to Muslims, and we will land up in the same boat as what we see in the UK and Europe.
Let's stop all this "divisiveness" that is being perpetuated in the name of "Diversity" and treat everyone as equals.  Making Muslims, for some unknown reason, the victim and giving them special status under Bill M 103 is the wrong way to go.  Treat ALL criminal acts the same, no matter the race, religion, sex, etc. 
The Islamists have mastered the propaganda machine and manipulation of the MSM to such an extent that we overlook their barbarianism and atrocities.  We have Laws.  Enforce them.  In this case the parents hold some responsibility to discipline the child.

This incident of the child found to have lied, whether she was coerced or not, only inflames the situation once again, with the perpetrators coming across in the MSM, and in our case the PM's eyes, as victims.  These falsehoods incite more than anything else. 
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What attack? I read what you wrote,m where you stated that, "if the police don't want to investigate further, there's always child services. They have a bag of tricks not available to the police." So the question was investigate her for what? What would you have child services investigate this child for?
Please. It wasn't a simple question, otherwise, that's what you would have asked.

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I tend to agree with Jarnhamar's statement and think that the only "Islamophobia" that we will be seeing in the future will be the fear of the Government and Police to deal with anything related to Muslims, and we will land up in the same boat as what we see in the UK and Europe.
Let's stop all this "divisiveness" that is being perpetuated in the name of "Diversity" and treat everyone as equals.  Making Muslims, for some unknown reason, the victim and giving them special status under Bill M 103 is the wrong way to go.  Treat ALL criminal acts the same, no matter the race, religion, sex, etc. 
The Islamists have mastered the propaganda machine and manipulation of the MSM to such an extent that we overlook their barbarianism and atrocities.  We have Laws.  Enforce them.  In this case the parents hold some responsibility to discipline the child.

This incident of the child found to have lied, whether she was coerced or not, only inflames the situation once again, with the perpetrators coming across in the MSM, and in our case the PM's eyes, as victims.  These falsehoods incite more than anything else.

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Careful George. The Thought Police have been re-activated.

Come on!.....You know that the "Thought Police" have been on my *** for ages now.    :whistle:
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It blows my mind a kids lie ends up making such waves these days, I think we all need a reality check.

What ever happened to thinking for ourselves. If I would have done this as a kid, I know what would have happened and sitting would not have been an option for me for a while, but it would end there...

I'm shaking my head at how pathetic? Gullible? Bigoted??? I am lacking the right word but this incident here symbolizes a lot to me. I think a lot more gaming of the system may be coming.

Abdullah

P.s I'd put my money on her not wanting to wear hijab, her parents caught her and she made up a lie to save face and her parents are possibly from the woe is me crowd, so they blew it up and she couldn't retract. Just my theory.

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Many factors may come into play here.  Perhaps she wanted to participate in all the hype of the #METOO?  Who knows? 

If something nefarious was involved, I am sure it will eventually be exposed with time.

There are may tinfoil hat conspiracy theorists out there.  It will trend for a while and fade away, like this thread.
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Instead of bullshit stories like this one, l much prefer something like this one instead.  No lies, no deceit, no agendas, just people helping people.   :salute:

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'What would you do?' Good Samaritan who saved woman from cold hopes to set example
When Penny Tasco spotted an elderly stranger wandering outside in frigid conditions, she didn't hesitate

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I find some of the language used in that "article" hilarious.

"Many questions remain unanswered about this lie meant to smear and divide Canadians..."


I agree that the timeline from incident to first volley at the media stinks. Big time.
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Yea sometimes they raise good questions or ask questions no one seems inclined to but usually go overboard with with the doom gloom or theatrics.  I do agree with them that the language the girl used seems piticular.

I originally dismissed the suspicion that it was a fake story (even with the oddities)  because the assailant was Asian.  An alleged Asian attacker didn't seem to fit the pattern for hoaxes. 

Maybe I'm just being theatrical myself but I think if the attacker was described as a white male there would have been a lot more uproar.
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Not surprised the far right will go after her for days on end. Liberals, Muslim, Jews, Women, Gays, Trans, Immigrants and Non-white people are it's sworn enemies and they have made it their duty and full time job to hate on every aspect of them to feel better about themselves. The media is doing what it does to get clicks when worse things are happening. Keep them hypnotized long enough and you have a brainwashed base ready to vote for your bidding.

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You forgot to mention disabled people. Please refrain from supporting abilist narratives with that sort of exclusion. Thanks.
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Not surprised the far right will go after her for days on end. Liberals, Muslim, Jews, Women, Gays, Trans, Immigrants and Non-white people are it's sworn enemies and they have made it their duty and full time job to hate on every aspect of them to feel better about themselves. The media is doing what it does to get clicks when worse things are happening. Keep them hypnotized long enough and you have a brainwashed base ready to vote for your bidding.

I'm far right and I don't mind any of those folks.
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Just reading some of the "Victim Card" reports being put out by some of our national news chains....The "Apologists" are coming out in full force, as well....Looks like the push is on to justify M 103.
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