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Re: Wannabe RCAF Pilot - 16yrs - Options?
« Reply #1350 on: April 18, 2016, 18:25:07 »
I have merged all of the CEOTP Pilot threads into http://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,105937.0.html, so that is the only link that works now.
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Applying as a pilot (again)
« Reply #1351 on: October 06, 2016, 20:36:02 »
Hi!

I applied as a pilot through SENECA in November 2015.
I went through the whole process fairly well and quickly.
In July 2016, I received an official offer as pilot.... which I declined.
I am currently studying engineering in a civy university and I felt like
I wasn't ready to drop it all to start my new career.

The thing is now I wonder everyday if I should have accepted. Looks like
such an amazing profession. My question is: If I decide to re-apply, will I
have to start the whole process all over again? By process I mean CFAT,
interview, blood testing, eyes testing, medical testing, Aircrew Selection,etc.

What if I apply tomorrow?
What if I apply next year?

Thanks!
Sorry if my post isn't the proper section (so Canadian to say sorry like that... :cdn:)
I browsed the forum and could not find an answear.

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Re: The "So You Want To Be A Pilot" Merged Thread
« Reply #1352 on: October 07, 2016, 21:13:28 »
"Declining an offer (merged)" at  http://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,104645.0/all.html may help.

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Re: Applying as a pilot (again)
« Reply #1353 on: October 07, 2016, 22:30:45 »
Hi!

I applied as a pilot through SENECA in November 2015.
I went through the whole process fairly well and quickly.
In July 2016, I received an official offer as pilot.... which I declined.
I am currently studying engineering in a civy university and I felt like
I wasn't ready to drop it all to start my new career.

The thing is now I wonder everyday if I should have accepted. Looks like
such an amazing profession. My question is: If I decide to re-apply, will I
have to start the whole process all over again? By process I mean CFAT,
interview, blood testing, eyes testing, medical testing, Aircrew Selection,etc.

What if I apply tomorrow?
What if I apply next year?

Thanks!
Sorry if my post isn't the proper section (so Canadian to say sorry like that... :cdn:)
I browsed the forum and could not find an answear.

See also,

Declining an offer (merged)
http://milnet.ca/forums/index.php/topic,104645.msg1458401.html#msg1458401

Hi!

I applied as a pilot through SENECA in November 2015.
I went through the whole process fairly well and quickly.
In July 2016, I received an official offer as pilot.... which I declined.
I am currently studying engineering in a civy university and I felt like
I wasn't ready to drop it all to start my new career.

The thing is now I wonder everyday if I should have accepted. Looks like
such an amazing profession. My question is: If I decide to re-apply, will I
have to start the whole process all over again? By process I mean CFAT,
interview, blood testing, eyes testing, medical testing, Aircrew Selection,etc.

What if I apply tomorrow?
What if I apply next year?

Thanks!!!

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Re: The "So You Want To Be A Pilot" Merged Thread
« Reply #1354 on: October 07, 2016, 23:01:36 »
I know that I posted 2 different times Mario!
I want answears! ahaha


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Re: The "So You Want To Be A Pilot" Merged Thread
« Reply #1355 on: October 08, 2016, 00:43:19 »
If you want answers, then read through the "Declining an offer (merged)" thread and find them. I provided that link to you for that purpose, not simply because I had nothing else to do.

If you manage to have a truly unique question that has not been answered therein, go ahead and ask it in that thread and that thread only. Multiple identical or reasonably close-to-identical posts are considered to be spamming on this Site and that is not permitted, no matter how many "ahahas" you append to your posts. Normally, one post would be deleted.

The vast majority of answers that you need are already here, somewhere. There is a metric crap-ton of homework and study on the Pilot courses, you will be expected to do that work and know the material thoroughly, and, while your Instructors will happily provide assistance to those that need and deserve it, they will not spoonfeed you. Neither will we, so you may as well begin to become accustomed to that. As a bonus, by reading through older threads and searching, you will learn much more and will likely find answers to questions before they even occur to you.

If, after an honest and thorough search, you cannot find an answer, then somebody will be happy to help further - just as you will experience on your courses.

If you really want those Wings, you will have to earn them.

The effort - and much is required, more than you can imagine - is more than worth it.

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Re: The "So You Want To Be A Pilot" Merged Thread
« Reply #1356 on: October 08, 2016, 08:00:14 »
I know that I posted 2 different times Mario!
I want answears! ahaha

That would be considered SPAMMING. We have answers for that.  It is called BANNING.
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Re: The "So You Want To Be A Pilot" Merged Thread
« Reply #1357 on: May 28, 2017, 18:07:26 »
As a pilot, is it possible to continue your education and attain a Masters/PhD in your field of study (eg Masters in Engineering)? If so, how easy/difficult is this to achieve, and are there opportunities to do it as a full-time student without having to manage military obligations?

This was all I could find, but was pretty anecdotal. Was wondering if anyone has more concrete answers. http://milnet.ca/forums/index.php/topic,12744.msg948079/topicseen.html#msg948079

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Re: The "So You Want To Be A Pilot" Merged Thread
« Reply #1358 on: May 28, 2017, 20:28:50 »
As a pilot, is it possible to continue your education and attain a Masters/PhD in your field of study (eg Masters in Engineering)? If so, how easy/difficult is this to achieve, and are there opportunities to do it as a full-time student without having to manage military obligations?

This was all I could find, but was pretty anecdotal. Was wondering if anyone has more concrete answers. http://milnet.ca/forums/index.php/topic,12744.msg948079/topicseen.html#msg948079
I have a pilot friend finishing his PhD right now in some sort of nuclear engineering.

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Re: The "So You Want To Be A Pilot" Merged Thread
« Reply #1359 on: May 30, 2017, 17:55:23 »
I have a pilot friend finishing his PhD right now in some sort of nuclear engineering.

Good to hear, do you know if your friend is doing is PhD as a full time student, or is he studying it on the side alongside being a pilot?

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Re: The "So You Want To Be A Pilot" Merged Thread
« Reply #1360 on: May 30, 2017, 19:31:00 »
He's in a ground job that involves a lot of shift work, other than that I'm not sure.

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Re: The "So You Want To Be A Pilot" Merged Thread
« Reply #1361 on: February 13, 2018, 18:55:01 »
First post ever.

Is anybody here still amidst a pilot application? I'm surprised nobody has replied to this post since 30 March, 2017! I've personally applied for Pilot very recently. Haven't written my CFAT yet. If anybody else is amidst an application, please chime in and share your experiences in realtime! I've gathered a serious amount of information from this thread (and other threads) (and moreso from this website in general), so it'd be comforting to have everybody continue posting about their ongoing experiences.

Thanks much.

Also let me know if something's wrong/weird with my profile or with my thread replying format.

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Re: The "So You Want To Be A Pilot" Merged Thread
« Reply #1362 on: February 13, 2018, 20:07:04 »
After fifty-five pages, and in the absence of any new developments, there's likely nothing of value to add that would not just further bloat up an already large thread.

Keep what you're doing, and churn through more older threads. That'll do you more good.

There's nothing "wrong/weird" with your profile or thread replying format.

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Jet pilot requirements
« Reply #1363 on: April 04, 2018, 18:18:26 »
Hi, I consider joining the air force to be jet pilot. I currently study for my I.T A+ certification. I then plan to acquire many different certifications like the ones given by Microsoft or even networking, security+ and such. I was wondering if the Canadian army would see these as collegial/university studies? I read that the US army now officially recognize them. As a fact what I learn is also learned at college and university. Also in the order of things, someone who graduate from college then go through doing the certifications im doing.
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Re: The "So You Want To Be A Pilot" Merged Thread
« Reply #1364 on: April 04, 2018, 20:17:23 »
I'm not aware of the CompTIA certifications counting towards or as equal to college or university studies, however some colleges or universities might grant equivalencies towards certificate, diploma or undergraduate studies.  It's been a few years since I've been involved in CAF IT/networking work, but I did hold A+, Network + and several Novell and Microsoft certs (CNA, CNE, Master CNE, MCP) as well and they were 'nice' but what really counted was my diploma (Net Admin/Engineer) and my post-graduate diploma (Information Systems Technologist).

On it's own, no industry certification is going to open the doors for you for pilot of any sort;  if that is your true goal, even college education in IT won't be sufficient education to meet the Pilot requirements.  Your education plan seems to line you up more for CAF trades such as ACISS - Army Communication and Information Systems Specialist, Communicator Research Operator , ATIS Tech - Aerospace Telecommunication and Information Systems Technician or Cyber Operator:2c:
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Re: The "So You Want To Be A Pilot" Merged Thread
« Reply #1365 on: April 04, 2018, 21:13:22 »
Thank you, those trades sounds very interesting. I will definitively look into it all more as to know what is the best option for me.

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Re: The "So You Want To Be A Pilot" Merged Thread
« Reply #1366 on: April 17, 2018, 13:02:44 »
A previous poster mentioned that this thread is getting stale.  Is the interest in piloting in the air force starting to wane?

As a former CF pilot who joined in the days of zero jobs on the "street" I have to wonder if the CF will have, and is having problems attracting qualified candidates during the current unprecedented time of growth and shortages in the airlines.  I read a study the other day that predicts that Canada will be require 6,000 pilots in the next 20 years.  Where are they going to come from?

Loved my time in the air force, but given the realities of the commercial aviation industry, I am concerned that the CF may have some serious problems attracting pilot recruits.  Gone are the days of pensionable service being bought back with credit towards Air Canada's pensionable service, new rules requiring 3 years of duty after an OTU, a Liberal government that is generally ambivalent to the military, greater number of helicopter positions than fixed wing, agonizingly long delays on updates to the fleet, etc, etc.

I wish the air force the very best and will watch with great interest to see how the Canadian military (and commercial aviation for that matter) tackles the strain that it will no doubt face.


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Re: The "So You Want To Be A Pilot" Merged Thread
« Reply #1367 on: April 17, 2018, 16:48:27 »
A previous poster mentioned that this thread is getting stale.  Is the interest in piloting in the air force starting to wane?

That could very well be true, but there's also the fact that internet forums are becoming a thing of the past.

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Pilot Lifestyle
« Reply #1368 on: May 20, 2018, 20:02:32 »
Hello Everyone,

Passed ASC for pilot last week and am really looking into the lifestyle of the trade right now. I was hoping someone could answer a few of my questions about what it's like to be a pilot right now.

1. How likely would it be to get Cyclones/Cormorant if I went heli?

2. Is it easy to swap between air frames within your community?

3. How easy is it to transfer between bases within your air frame?

4. How often do aircraft fly to actually do their job instead of training (Real SAR, Operations for Tac Hel, etc)?

5. How is social life on the more rural bases like Cold Lake and Greenwood?

6. Post CF, would transitioning to become a medivac or coast guard pilot be easy?

7. Also post CF, would ministries like Global Affairs or think tanks like the Asia Pacific Foundation be interested in former pilots?

Many Thanks!
Recruiting Center: CFRC Vacouver
Regular/Reserve: Regular
Officer/NCM: Officer
Trade choice 1: Pilot
Trade choice 2: ACSO
Trade choice 3: NWO
Application date: Jan 5th, 2018
First contact: Jan 9th, 2018
CFAT: February 6, 2018 (Pass)
MOST: March 1, 2018 (Pass)
ACS: May 15, 2018 (Pass)
Interview:
Medical 1:
Medical 2:
Med Approved:
Back-check:
Competition list:
Position offered:

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Re: Pilot Lifestyle
« Reply #1369 on: May 20, 2018, 20:16:40 »
You may also find these discussions interesting and informative,

How is a Pilots aircraft chosen?
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=120167.0

How do Pilot promotions work?
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=114690.0

Life of a Pilot: The Off-Duty Aspects 
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=108851.0

Life as a CF pilot 
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=94311.0

Time away from home for Pilots
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=119510.0

A day in the life of... a pilot 
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=97209.0

Pilot life after CF 
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=58038.0

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Re: The "So You Want To Be A Pilot" Merged Thread
« Reply #1370 on: May 22, 2018, 02:20:49 »
Thanks for those resources MarioMike! I still have a few specific questions if anyone can answer them.

Quote
1. How likely would it be to get Cyclones/Cormorant if I went heli?

2. Is it easy to swap between air frames within your community?

3. How easy is it to transfer between bases within your air frame?

4. How often do aircraft fly to actually do their job instead of training (Real SAR, Operations for Tac Hel, etc)?

6. Post CF, would transitioning to become a medivac or coast guard pilot be easy?

7. Also post CF, would ministries like Global Affairs or think tanks like the Asia Pacific Foundation be interested in former pilots?
Recruiting Center: CFRC Vacouver
Regular/Reserve: Regular
Officer/NCM: Officer
Trade choice 1: Pilot
Trade choice 2: ACSO
Trade choice 3: NWO
Application date: Jan 5th, 2018
First contact: Jan 9th, 2018
CFAT: February 6, 2018 (Pass)
MOST: March 1, 2018 (Pass)
ACS: May 15, 2018 (Pass)
Interview:
Medical 1:
Medical 2:
Med Approved:
Back-check:
Competition list:
Position offered:

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Re: The "So You Want To Be A Pilot" Merged Thread
« Reply #1371 on: May 22, 2018, 08:24:24 »
Thanks for those resources MarioMike!

You are welcome.  Good luck.  :)

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Re: The "So You Want To Be A Pilot" Merged Thread
« Reply #1372 on: May 22, 2018, 11:25:54 »
Thanks for those resources MarioMike! I still have a few specific questions if anyone can answer them.

There are no specific answers.

The variables are infinite.

Everybody's career and experience are different.

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Re: Pilot Lifestyle
« Reply #1373 on: May 25, 2018, 11:27:52 »
Hello Everyone,

Passed ASC for pilot last week and am really looking into the lifestyle of the trade right now. I was hoping someone could answer a few of my questions about what it's like to be a pilot right now.

1. How likely would it be to get Cyclones/Cormorant if I went heli?

2. Is it easy to swap between air frames within your community?

3. How easy is it to transfer between bases within your air frame?

4. How often do aircraft fly to actually do their job instead of training (Real SAR, Operations for Tac Hel, etc)?

5. How is social life on the more rural bases like Cold Lake and Greenwood?

6. Post CF, would transitioning to become a medivac or coast guard pilot be easy?

7. Also post CF, would ministries like Global Affairs or think tanks like the Asia Pacific Foundation be interested in former pilots?

Many Thanks!

From my understanding:

1. Cormorant is difficult. It's the most desired air frame in rotary wing. Cyclone is easier, however they are still working out alot of kinks in their training and there may be a big backlog when you go to do your OTU (kind of like the issues Chinooks have been having)

2. It's difficult. It takes a long time to get proficient in an air frame. They want you to get to aircraft captain as quick as possible, and once you are there they want you to stay in the CAF as long as possible. They don't have enough trained people to let them float between air frames. It does happen though, but it's rare and usually done for a bonafide reason.

3. Easy. It will likely happen during your career naturally. If you ask you can likely get posted more often. Generally you'll do one or two flying postings, followed by a static staff or HQ posting. and then the cycle repeats.

4. You're looking at about 300 flying hours for Tac Hel per year. Multi engine is going to be higher since their flights are usually longer. Fighters is pretty low in hours, ~140-160 hrs a year, but your time is going to be spent doing alot of planning for those flying hours.

5. Rural AF bases do a good job promoting the military family. They're generally a tight knit community and there's lots of planned events for families.

6. CAF pilots are well sought after. If you have a good number of hours (~1500) you should have no issues getting a job when you leave the CAF. It's a little harder for rotary wing that most fixed wing pilots, but if you are willing to move where the work is, you will do well.

7. I don't know about this one.
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Re: The "So You Want To Be A Pilot" Merged Thread
« Reply #1374 on: August 23, 2018, 18:09:43 »
Hey,
I am interested in serving as a reserve pilot in the CAF...  :nod:

Basic questions:
1)   How hard is it to pass the CFASC for the Pilot trade?
2)   This might be a stupid question: how strong does your math have the be to be a pilot in the Air Force?
3)   How long do these two courses take: Primary Flying Training + Prerequisite Training Course?
4)   How long is the Basic Helicopter Course?

Reserve??
1)   Have you ever heard of people who got pilot training as a reserve member?
2)   On forces.ca it says that “This occupation has a limited enrollment in the Reserve Force for unskilled applicants and is greatly dependent on previous flying experience.” What kind of flying experience are they looking for? If I want to be a reserve helo pilot, will I have a better chance of getting the training if I first get a PPL or CPL for helicopters?
3)     What do reserve helo pilots do other than train?
4)     Are there Tac helo squadrons in Ontario that accept reserve pilots?

Thanks in advance!