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Re: 2018 pay increase?
« Reply #25 on: March 03, 2018, 07:10:16 »
Eaglelord17,  we have to balance our family life too, even more so in some instances.  I have been away from home on IR going on 3 years now and will be heading towards 4 in a few months.

I too, was a Reservist many years ago.  The levels of training between the two were night and day and for those trades l am familiar with, still are.

There are marked differences between us.

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« Reply #26 on: March 03, 2018, 07:35:20 »
On top of that I still go to every parade night plus some weekends.

I think this is actually the major difference. If a class A reservist doesn’t want to come to work a class A reservist doesn’t have to go to work.

In the end both reg force and reserve force careers are choices, each of which have their own pros and cons.

 If you think you’re being mistreated then quit the military or switch to the reg force (where you’re life would apparently be so much easier).

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Re: 2018 pay increase?
« Reply #27 on: March 03, 2018, 07:43:08 »
I think this is actually the major difference. If a class A reservist doesn’t want to come to work a class A reservist doesn’t have to go to work.

I think this is huge point and people keep saying  "well Pte Bloggins could make more per hour at McDonalds."

I've never worked a retail job where I could simply say "Yeah I don't feel like coming in, so I'm not." Shift trading/giving away happens, but ultimately you are responsible for finding a replacement.  In the reserves if you don't show up what can your COC really do? Threaten to not send you on RST? Good luck, we can't fill the spots that we have..
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Re: 2018 pay increase?
« Reply #28 on: March 03, 2018, 08:13:07 »
Ok and you also have the other side of things as well, which includes Reg Force members who do next to nothing all day. Some people I have met in the Regs couldn't make it civvy side, being to lazy or incompetent to actually get and hold a real career. The other thing is when your coming in for a half day or full day with the Reserves its only when there is work. I can recall many days when there wasn't anything to do in the Regs but I was paid either way.

It is much harder to be a dedicated Reservist than a Reg Force member. Reg Force they simply tell you what to do and you do it. Reserves you have to try and balance a civilian career as well as a family and a military career.  For example I work 48+ hours a week of hard industrial labour in a severely understaffed mechanical department (under 50% manning). On top of that I still go to every parade night plus some weekends. I will work sometimes a 11 hour shift starting at 7am, go straight to the Reserves after work and be at the Reserves until 11pm only to wake up for 4am to go back to heavy maintenance for another 12 hour shift. Then after that I will show up to the Reserves on the weekend for training only to go back to my civvy job on Monday. A while ago I worked 104 hours in a week between the Reserves and my civvy job. The longest period of time I have had off in over a year is 4 days.

This isn't meant to be some sort of foot measuring contest, just a statement of some peoples reality. There are people who work hard in both elements, just as there are people who do as little as possible. The big difference is with the Reserves those who do as little as possible don't get paid for it. That 15% difference is insulting especially when you consider all the other benefits the Regs receive. When you do the same work, you should receive the same pay.

The big difference is that you do it by choice.  In the Reg force, that choice isn't there,  in fact, you also do not have the choice of where you live.  My wife could make a lot more if we weren't in Cold Lake and there is nothing I or she can do.  As a reservist, younhave that choice of living where you desire .  I can tell you she could make more that the extra 15% I make over a reservist.


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Re: 2018 pay increase?
« Reply #29 on: March 03, 2018, 08:31:00 »
I think this is actually the major difference. If a class A reservist doesn’t want to come to work a class A reservist doesn’t have to go to work.


Yes and NO.

If a Class A Reservist doesn't want to come to work, they don't have to, is correct.  However, if a Class A Reservist does not Parade the minimum required amount of time per month, they will be marked as NES and Release Proceedings may soon follow.
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Re: 2018 pay increase?
« Reply #30 on: March 03, 2018, 09:53:06 »
We have been around this bush more than a few times on this website and this rapidly spiraled into another round of Reg vs Res.

If you want to debate the reasons for differences in compensation or shortcomings of the training/experience/motivation/pick the topic of whichever component you are for or against, go find that thread and do it there.  Otherwise, back on topic.

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Re: 2018 pay increase?
« Reply #31 on: March 03, 2018, 15:36:45 »
I’m looking forward to Monday - where I get to go to work and do nothing all day.   :rofl:
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Re: 2018 pay increase?
« Reply #32 on: March 03, 2018, 15:40:00 »
I’m looking forward to Monday - where I get to go to work and do nothing all day.   :rofl:

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Re: 2018 pay increase?
« Reply #33 on: March 03, 2018, 17:28:37 »
I’m looking forward to Monday - where I get to go to work and do nothing all day.   :rofl:

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Re: 2018 pay increase?
« Reply #34 on: March 03, 2018, 17:30:47 »
Probably at PSPC in the DND procurements cell.