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Re: General Questions regarding your application [MERGED]
« Reply #25 on: October 21, 2012, 21:02:34 »
 Hey DAA Thanks for taking your own time to answer these questions. I have a couple.

I was reg force 0043 not QL3 qualified. and I Vr'd because of a girl..I know I know stupidest decision I ever made. I got out Sept,17,08. I am in a better situation now, married with a wife that supports my decision. I was told that I would have to do the enrollment all over is this true? Is it because I have been out for too long? Also I've developed kerataconus in my left eye, so I doubt it my left eye would pass for a combat trade. I was thinking RMS clerk, something different for me. Should I start my online application? Sorry for the novel I wrote you, I'm just real excited to get going! Thanks again!! :)
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Re: General Questions regarding your application [MERGED]
« Reply #26 on: October 21, 2012, 23:27:12 »
Hi, thank you for being here and open to questions. I really appreciate the fact that I can find some help beside going to the recruitment centre.

I'm currently in my 4th year of university, and graduating in April. I plan to join the CF as soon as I graduate, and I was wondering what is the best time to start the application process? I was thinking of Jan. 2013 but will that be fine since I will not be receiving my degree until April or May.

Nothing happens fast. Apply now, get your name in the queue. My girlfriend has been in the process for a year for a pretty straightforward trade that she's well educated and qualified for.

You may be told your desired trade is full. If that happens, spots may become available again after April 1st. Do not, however, think of this as akin to any normal job where some manager makes a decision to hire you within the space of a month.
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Re: General Questions regarding your application [MERGED]
« Reply #27 on: October 22, 2012, 00:24:23 »
Nothing happens fast. Apply now, get your name in the queue. My girlfriend has been in the process for a year for a pretty straightforward trade that she's well educated and qualified for.

You may be told your desired trade is full. If that happens, spots may become available again after April 1st. Do not, however, think of this as akin to any normal job where some manager makes a decision to hire you within the space of a month.

Thank you Brihard! This is really good news to me, and now I can sleep in peace.   ;D

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Re: General Questions regarding your application [MERGED]
« Reply #28 on: October 22, 2012, 08:38:37 »
Hey DAA Thanks for taking your own time to answer these questions. I have a couple.

I was reg force 0043 not QL3 qualified. and I Vr'd because of a girl..I know I know stupidest decision I ever made. I got out Sept,17,08. I am in a better situation now, married with a wife that supports my decision. I was told that I would have to do the enrollment all over is this true? Is it because I have been out for too long? Also I've developed kerataconus in my left eye, so I doubt it my left eye would pass for a combat trade. I was thinking RMS clerk, something different for me. Should I start my online application? Sorry for the novel I wrote you, I'm just real excited to get going! Thanks again!! :)

Because you did not reach your OFP (ie; QL3 qualified) you may very well have to complete BMQ over again but that is at the discretion of the CFRC (but don't quote me on that).  Nevertheless, you will be processed in the same manner as a "new" applicant with no prior service.  I would start the application process NOW and see how it goes.  At least this will give you the chance to talk to a recruiter regarding your submitted application and how competitive it may be.  They can then provide you with advice on how to increase your possibilities for re-enrolment.  Good luck!
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Re: General Questions regarding your application [MERGED]
« Reply #29 on: October 22, 2012, 12:36:39 »
Thanks for such a quick response DAA. I'm heading to CFRC Ottawa tomorrow morning to get this started!!
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Re: General Questions regarding your application [MERGED]
« Reply #30 on: October 22, 2012, 17:48:56 »
Thanks for such a quick response DAA. I'm heading to CFRC Ottawa tomorrow morning to get this started!!

You can always apply "online" and get the same service.  Not sure if Ottawa will accept a paper application these days but it's up to you what you want to do.....
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Re: General Questions regarding your application [MERGED]
« Reply #31 on: October 22, 2012, 20:50:17 »
I've heard that the online applications aren't the best way to go..now this is only here say, would I be better off doing it online?
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Re: General Questions regarding your application [MERGED]
« Reply #32 on: October 22, 2012, 21:12:33 »
I've heard that the online applications aren't the best way to go..now this is only here say, would I be better off doing it online?

Makes no difference...your going to receive the same level of service.  Eventually, "online" will be the only way to go.
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Re: General Questions regarding your application [MERGED]
« Reply #33 on: October 26, 2012, 04:37:04 »
Unfortunately, CF File Manager is no longer able to use unofficial means to respond to official queries and has asked for their account to be removed.

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Re: General Questions regarding your application [MERGED]
« Reply #34 on: October 27, 2012, 18:26:48 »
Hi there. My situation is i started the process by applying online in march, did my cfat in august was told i did relly well and could have any trade my education could apply for. My interview was october second and medical on the fourth. I was told i did great on the medical and my interview went well. I had too get a form filled out by an optometrist wgich i did on the way home and brought it in the 12. I was last told it was on its way to ottawa last week. I have applied for infantry, artillery ground defence, artillery air defence. Only negative i heard throughout the process was my grades in high school were pretty low. I'm 19 and only have my diploma. Also my refrences went well. Just wondering if theres a chance i could be sworn in anytime soon and be shipped somewhere. Think about this everyday an can't wait?I'm in toronto by the way.

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Re: General Questions regarding your application [MERGED]
« Reply #35 on: October 27, 2012, 21:11:55 »
Hi there. My situation is i started the process by applying online in march, did my cfat in august was told i did relly well and could have any trade my education could apply for. My interview was october second and medical on the fourth. I was told i did great on the medical and my interview went well. I had too get a form filled out by an optometrist wgich i did on the way home and brought it in the 12. I was last told it was on its way to ottawa last week. I have applied for infantry, artillery ground defence, artillery air defence. Only negative i heard throughout the process was my grades in high school were pretty low. I'm 19 and only have my diploma. Also my refrences went well. Just wondering if theres a chance i could be sworn in anytime soon and be shipped somewhere. Think about this everyday an can't wait?I'm in toronto by the way.

Well, I am on the merit list right now waiting for a job offer, and I used to be in the reserves 3 years ago, so  from my personal experience what I can say is that you better get used to waiting (there will be alot of it). As far as I know, once your file is back from Ottawa, you will be merit listed (if everything is good). Once you are merit listed, you wait for a job offer. How soon you will get a call depends on where you stand on the list and the amount of positions available for the job and some other things, there are plenty of threads regarding this topic so I wont go into it. As far as being "shipped" somewhere, if you mean deployed, then dont worry thats the last thing that should be on your mind, pass bmq, sq, etc... first.

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Re: General Questions regarding your application [MERGED]
« Reply #36 on: November 01, 2012, 11:13:16 »
Hey I am currently merit listed for DEO Mars officerand I heard selection will be sometime in November, can you tell me how many MARS officer positions are available and how competitive of a position MARS is? Thanks!

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Re: General Questions regarding your application [MERGED]
« Reply #37 on: November 01, 2012, 17:12:41 »
Unfortunately, CF File Manager is no longer able to use unofficial means to respond to official queries and has asked for their account to be removed.



Apparently you guys didn't read this, did you?
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Re: General Questions regarding your application [MERGED]
« Reply #38 on: November 06, 2012, 14:56:40 »


Apparently you guys didn't read this, did you?

Doesn't mean that you still can't get "unofficlal" responses to your queries...regretably, the individual identified themself and thus became an "official" source of info.  On top of that, CF File Manager refused to post any responses publicly, which doesn't provide a service to help anyone.
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Re: General Questions regarding your application [MERGED]
« Reply #39 on: November 06, 2012, 15:45:31 »
Hello, Im new to this post and new applicant for the CF. I want to enter as a Medic in the reserves. I have university degrees and community college ect, but scared about my math.
I have  an file processed and an pre interview chat this evening with  a CO. HOw long after this pre interview this evening will I have before my cfat as I want practice? I am thinking of getting a math tutor to get me up to  speed so I alteast feel confident in math area.. english is np. Thnx

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Re: General Questions regarding your application [MERGED]
« Reply #40 on: November 06, 2012, 16:29:20 »
Hello, Im new to this post and new applicant for the CF. I want to enter as a Medic in the reserves. I have university degrees and community college ect, but scared about my math.
I have  an file processed and an pre interview chat this evening with  a CO. HOw long after this pre interview this evening will I have before my cfat as I want practice? I am thinking of getting a math tutor to get me up to  speed so I alteast feel confident in math area.. english is np. Thnx

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Re: General Questions regarding your application [MERGED]
« Reply #41 on: November 06, 2012, 16:44:20 »
Doesn't mean that you still can't get "unofficlal" responses to your queries...regretably, the individual identified themself and thus became an "official" source of info.  On top of that, CF File Manager refused to post any responses publicly, which doesn't provide a service to help anyone.

Actually, the individual in question was very willing to help, but given the official word to shut down from their chain of command. Official information must come directly from approved sources so the best advice is still 'contact your recruiter'.

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Re: General Questions regarding your application [MERGED]
« Reply #42 on: November 07, 2012, 01:25:27 »
Is the Infantry trade open at the moment?
Thanks..
Recruiting Center: CFRC Vancouver
Regular/ Reserve: Regular
Officer/NCM: NCM
Trade choice 1: Infantry
Trade choice 2: -
Tade Choice 3: -
Applied: October 2012
First contact: October 2012
CFAT: Wrote May 14, 2013, passed.
Medical: May 14, 2013.
Interview: May 14, 2013.
Position offered: July 19, 2013
Enrollment/swearing in: August 9, 2013.
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Re: General Questions regarding your application [MERGED]
« Reply #43 on: November 07, 2012, 03:14:08 »
Is the Infantry trade open at the moment?
Thanks..
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Speaking with a recruiter would probably be your best bet for an accurate answer.

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Re: General Questions regarding your application [MERGED]
« Reply #44 on: November 07, 2012, 03:17:39 »
My mistake, I didn't read the OPs first post. Apparently not that competent at posting on my phone.
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Re: General Questions regarding your application [MERGED]
« Reply #45 on: November 07, 2012, 13:51:23 »
Is the Infantry trade open at the moment?
Thanks..


I'm not a recruiter, but, as far as i know Infantry is closed. At least thats what North Bay told me.
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Re: General Questions regarding your application [MERGED]
« Reply #46 on: November 07, 2012, 16:42:19 »
Okay thanks... guess I have to wait until the next time it opens next, which will be... April? Gahh.
Recruiting Center: CFRC Vancouver
Regular/ Reserve: Regular
Officer/NCM: NCM
Trade choice 1: Infantry
Trade choice 2: -
Tade Choice 3: -
Applied: October 2012
First contact: October 2012
CFAT: Wrote May 14, 2013, passed.
Medical: May 14, 2013.
Interview: May 14, 2013.
Position offered: July 19, 2013
Enrollment/swearing in: August 9, 2013.
BMQ- August 19, 2013.

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Re: General Questions regarding your application [MERGED]
« Reply #47 on: November 07, 2012, 17:58:49 »
I know how you feel dude. Hurry up and wait haha. In the meantime try to make your application as competitive as possible.
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Re: General Questions regarding your application [MERGED]
« Reply #48 on: November 08, 2012, 00:52:43 »
Yeah, I'm kinda stuck. The only fall back I have is to apply for a college next year if I don't get in by next October.
I might put in for an armoured soldier also, but from what I've heard, Infantry is worth waiting for.
Recruiting Center: CFRC Vancouver
Regular/ Reserve: Regular
Officer/NCM: NCM
Trade choice 1: Infantry
Trade choice 2: -
Tade Choice 3: -
Applied: October 2012
First contact: October 2012
CFAT: Wrote May 14, 2013, passed.
Medical: May 14, 2013.
Interview: May 14, 2013.
Position offered: July 19, 2013
Enrollment/swearing in: August 9, 2013.
BMQ- August 19, 2013.

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Re: General Questions regarding your application [MERGED]
« Reply #49 on: November 20, 2012, 23:28:29 »
So Today I just did my CFAT and scored well enough for every possible job as a NCM in the Canadian Forces, but I want to be an officer. Is it possible too just rank up through being a NCM or any other way, or would I need to retake my CFAT
Thanks Guys!