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Re: General Questions regarding your application [MERGED]
« Reply #50 on: November 20, 2012, 23:51:27 »
Did you even try the SEARCH function?
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Re: General Questions regarding your application [MERGED]
« Reply #51 on: November 21, 2012, 00:14:47 »
I cant seem to find it, i'm new on this forum. If you could help in any way that'd be awesome! thanks

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« Reply #52 on: November 21, 2012, 00:19:10 »
Go to the top of the page and look for the rectangle with the word SEARCH beside it. I wager that's the search function. Hope this helps.
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Re: General Questions regarding your application [MERGED]
« Reply #53 on: November 21, 2012, 00:50:39 »
So Today I just did my CFAT and scored well enough forevery possible job as a NCM in the Canadian Forces, but I want to be an officer. Is it possible too just rank up through being a NCM or any other way, or would I need to retake my CFAT
Thanks Guys!

Yes. There are multiple options available, each with their own requirements beyond CFAT threshold.

UTPNCM. University Transfer Plan NCM. Soldiers without degrees are paid to go to school and receive a omission at the end. Similar to ROTP.

SCP. Special Commissioning Plan. Soldiers who have degrees apply to comission. Similar to DEO.

CFR. Comission from the ranks. Unlike the previous two, which require application, this is offered by the CO to his SNCOs and WOs who show outstanding officer like qualities.  No immediate requirement for a degree.

CEOTP. Continuing Education Officer Training Plan. Identical to one available to civvies. Not always offered. Application is made with intent to achieve a degree during service.

SRCP. Special Requirements Commissioning Plan. Available to CWOs. Commission, usually acting lacking, into the rank of captain. I'm not entirely sure, but I believe this is typically accompanied by a release after 5 or so years- but most who get it already have 25+ years in.

There's probably a few I've missed, but there you go.

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Re: General Questions regarding your application [MERGED]
« Reply #54 on: November 21, 2012, 01:33:02 »
Congrats! How was it?
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Ahh, I called in and instead of just infantry, im: 1-infantry, 2-armoured 3-combat engineer for occupation choices.
The CF aren't recruiting infantry, I know until next year, in the spring-summer area they said. Apparently there are thousands of applications to go through, but not enough jobs for the taking, which is what the recruiter said to me.

Does anybody know when armoured/combat engineer would be recruiting? Same time as infantry maybe?
Recruiting Center: CFRC Vancouver
Regular/ Reserve: Regular
Officer/NCM: NCM
Trade choice 1: Infantry
Trade choice 2: -
Tade Choice 3: -
Applied: October 2012
First contact: October 2012
CFAT: Wrote May 14, 2013, passed.
Medical: May 14, 2013.
Interview: May 14, 2013.
Position offered: July 19, 2013
Enrollment/swearing in: August 9, 2013.
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Re: General Questions regarding your application [MERGED]
« Reply #55 on: November 21, 2012, 02:44:57 »
So Today I just did my CFAT and scored well enough forevery possible job as a NCM in the Canadian Forces, but I want to be an officer. Is it possible too just rank up through being a NCM or any other way, or would I need to retake my CFAT
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I take it that you did not score high enough on the CFAT for officer occupations.  If you join as an NCM, there are in-service avenues to commissioning (the various plans already identified) but as part of the processing for in-service commissioning your existing CFAT score will be reviewed and, if it does not meet the cut-off for officer, you should be offered the opportunity to retake it.  If you don't meet the CFAT scores for officer, you don't get commissioned.
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Re: General Questions regarding your application [MERGED]
« Reply #56 on: November 21, 2012, 18:25:58 »
Yes. There are multiple options available, each with their own requirements beyond CFAT threshold.

UTPNCM. University Transfer Plan NCM. Soldiers without degrees are paid to go to school and receive a omission at the end. Similar to ROTP.

SCP. Special Commissioning Plan. Soldiers who have degrees apply to comission. Similar to DEO.

CFR. Comission from the ranks. Unlike the previous two, which require application, this is offered by the CO to his SNCOs and WOs who show outstanding officer like qualities.  No immediate requirement for a degree.

CEOTP. Continuing Education Officer Training Plan. Identical to one available to civvies. Not always offered. Application is made with intent to achieve a degree during service.

SRCP. Special Requirements Commissioning Plan. Available to CWOs. Commission, usually acting lacking, into the rank of captain. I'm not entirely sure, but I believe this is typically accompanied by a release after 5 or so years- but most who get it already have 25+ years in.

There's probably a few I've missed, but there you go.


I should metion that I didnt score high enough too be an officer is that a problem?

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Re: General Questions regarding your application [MERGED]
« Reply #57 on: November 21, 2012, 19:36:36 »
I should metion that I didnt score high enough too be an officer is that a problem?

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« Reply #58 on: November 26, 2012, 21:35:07 »
Good evening everyone,

I recently applied to the Canadian forces on October 31 of this year. I applied for three trades 1. Military Police, 2. Supply Technician and 3. Artillery Soldier - Field. Could anyone possibly tell me how long the process takes to complete and also if these trades are open for applications?. Thanking all of you in advance.

Lostly
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« Reply #59 on: November 26, 2012, 23:20:10 »
Good evening everyone,

I recently applied to the Canadian forces on October 31 of this year. I applied for three trades 1. Military Police, 2. Supply Technician and 3. Artillery Soldier - Field. Could anyone possibly tell me how long the process takes to complete and also if these trades are open for applications?. Thanking all of you in advance.

Lostly

I submitted my application on Sept. 4 of this year and am only now going in for my interview and medical tests. As well I have been told that I likely won't get a 'yes' or 'no' until April.

Hope this helps
Recruiting Center: Toronto
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Re: General Questions regarding your application [MERGED]
« Reply #60 on: November 26, 2012, 23:40:19 »

I should metion that I didnt score high enough too be an officer is that a problem?

Yes. The short version is you're screwed. It's not 'Call of Duty' where you can 'rank up' to be an officer. There are some plans to commission non commissioned members, but they must be suitable for it, and that will almost invariably include a high enough CFAT score.
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Re: General Questions regarding your application [MERGED]
« Reply #61 on: November 27, 2012, 00:29:37 »
I submitted my application on Sept. 4 of this year and am only now going in for my interview and medical tests. As well I have been told that I likely won't get a 'yes' or 'no' until April.

Hope this helps

The information you gave me does help alot. What trades have you applied for?

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Re: General Questions regarding your application [MERGED]
« Reply #62 on: November 27, 2012, 01:21:24 »
Yeah, I applied mid-October, and haven't gotten dates or anything.. but the trades I chose are also combat related, which is not in need, and over-stocked..as you could say. I hope next spring brings good news.
Recruiting Center: CFRC Vancouver
Regular/ Reserve: Regular
Officer/NCM: NCM
Trade choice 1: Infantry
Trade choice 2: -
Tade Choice 3: -
Applied: October 2012
First contact: October 2012
CFAT: Wrote May 14, 2013, passed.
Medical: May 14, 2013.
Interview: May 14, 2013.
Position offered: July 19, 2013
Enrollment/swearing in: August 9, 2013.
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Re: General Questions regarding your application [MERGED]
« Reply #63 on: November 27, 2012, 06:44:45 »
Good evening everyone,

I recently applied to the Canadian forces on October 31 of this year. I applied for three trades 1. Military Police, 2. Supply Technician and 3. Artillery Soldier - Field. Could anyone possibly tell me how long the process takes to complete and also if these trades are open for applications?. Thanking all of you in advance.

Lostly

I also applied near the end of October and supply tech was one of my choices as well.  I haven`t heard anything yet so far.

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Re: General Questions regarding your application [MERGED]
« Reply #64 on: November 27, 2012, 08:21:45 »
Good evening everyone,

I recently applied to the Canadian forces on October 31 of this year. I applied for three trades 1. Military Police, 2. Supply Technician and 3. Artillery Soldier - Field. Could anyone possibly tell me how long the process takes to complete and also if these trades are open for applications?. Thanking all of you in advance.

Lostly

Unfortunately, there is no A + B = C equation for how long the recruiting process will take.  Some people wait years; while others wait mere months.  I waited a couple of years, received a job offer two months ago and here I sit, waiting at home for a posting message, still not sworn in. :facepalm: The military motto, "Hurry up and wait" is very apt. Good luck and enjoy the ride.  :salute:

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Re: General Questions regarding your application [MERGED]
« Reply #65 on: November 27, 2012, 08:28:25 »
What trades did you apply for?

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Re: General Questions regarding your application [MERGED]
« Reply #66 on: November 27, 2012, 09:05:05 »
Hi everyone :-)

How many of you, after you apply online, check the website that can tell you the status of your application? and is it ever updated after you send in the photocopies of supporting documents?

Thank you all,

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Re: General Questions regarding your application [MERGED]
« Reply #67 on: November 27, 2012, 09:38:16 »
I applied about eight months ago and have gone through the CFAT, medical, and interview stages of my application. I am now waiting on a merit list to be loaded into MPAC. That is just a little bit of my application history for you Lostly. Now to answer your question. During those eight months my online status was only updated three times so it does happen. Just keep checking in on it and it will change. My suggestion, and this is only my opinion, take this time and research your trades, and study a GED book. This will only serve to help you in the future. A good motto to live by is "hurry up and wait". I do wish you good luck on the rest of your application process and hope to work with you in the future. Oh by the way I applied for MP as well.  :salute:

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« Reply #68 on: November 27, 2012, 10:08:00 »
I applied about eight months ago and have gone through the CFAT, medical, and interview stages of my application. I am now waiting on a merit list to be loaded into MPAC. That is just a little bit of my application history for you Lostly. Now to answer your question. During those eight months my online status was only updated three times so it does happen. Just keep checking in on it and it will change. My suggestion, and this is only my opinion, take this time and research your trades, and study a GED book. This will only serve to help you in the future. A good motto to live by is "hurry up and wait". I do wish you good luck on the rest of your application process and hope to work with you in the future. Oh by the way I applied for MP as well.  :salute:

I have been hearing alot about the merit list. I guess it means you have been accepted and now just waiting to receive your bmq date. Congratulations on reaching that point in the process. Thank you for letting me know about MPAC. I only applied last month and just over anxious if that makes sense. I have been studying with books and online and I seem to be doing ok. I hope to work with all of you as well. I have always believed that the Canadian Forces have a strong sense of "family" when it comes to helping each other, and I think I have found that here :nod:

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Re: General Questions regarding your application [MERGED]
« Reply #69 on: November 28, 2012, 10:57:32 »
Morning all  :)

Just a quick question to anyone out there. Is it considered pushy if I call the CFNRCC and ask them for an update? I do not want to be seen as pushy or rude to them. I know thier are very busy. Am I just allowing my nerves to get the best of me?

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« Reply #70 on: November 28, 2012, 11:01:57 »
Morning all  :)

Just a quick question to anyone out there. Is it considered pushy if I call the CFNRCC and ask them for an update? I do not want to be seen as pushy or rude to them. I know thier are very busy. Am I just allowing my nerves to get the best of me?

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Lostly :D

I wouldn't call it pushy as long as you don't call more then once every couple weeks then it should be fine.
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« Reply #71 on: November 28, 2012, 15:33:47 »
Hopefully this isn't a stupid question. I got an email the other day from the North Bay Virtual Recruiting Centre saying that my applicant file is now complete. What does that mean exactly?
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« Reply #72 on: November 28, 2012, 15:42:18 »
Morning all  :)

Just a quick question to anyone out there. Is it considered pushy if I call the CFNRCC and ask them for an update? I do not want to be seen as pushy or rude to them. I know thier are very busy. Am I just allowing my nerves to get the best of me?

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From personal experience (both my husband and I have gone through the recruiting process successfully), the pushier the better.  They are dealing with a lot of files and sometimes things go unnoticed or slip through the cracks if its not brought to their attention.  Maybe CFRC Hamilton is just an exception, but they never seemed to mind when we called for an update.  Also, if I had not called back in March, I would not have known that I had to do an updated interview. You want the job? Well, the onus is on you to ensure you have your ducks in a row. Just my  :2c:

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« Reply #73 on: November 28, 2012, 17:16:14 »
Hi Half-pint,

Thank you for all the information you and the others are giving me. I only applied on October 31 of this year, and my thinking is should I call the Toronto recruiting centre or the one in Northbay where we all send our applications?. I apologize for all these questions.

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« Reply #74 on: November 28, 2012, 17:18:39 »
From personal experience (both my husband and I have gone through the recruiting process successfully), the pushier the better.  They are dealing with a lot of files and sometimes things go unnoticed or slip through the cracks if its not brought to their attention.  Maybe CFRC Hamilton is just an exception, but they never seemed to mind when we called for an update.  Also, if I had not called back in March, I would not have known that I had to do an updated interview. You want the job? Well, the onus is on you to ensure you have your ducks in a row. Just my  :2c:


Hi Half-pint,

Thank you for all the information you and the others are giving me. I only applied on October 31 of this year, and my thinking is should I call the Toronto recruiting centre or the one in Northbay where we all send our applications?. I apologize for all these questions.

Deepest thanks,
Lostly