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Re: BC Murders / MB Manhunt of Kam McLeod and Bryer Schmegelsky
« Reply #150 on: August 03, 2019, 21:18:51 »
Apparently the RCMP is sending a dive team to check part of the Nelson River downstream. A rowboat was found smashed all to hell below a set of rapids, along with a water jug. We’ll see if anything comes of this.
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Re: BC Murders / MB Manhunt of Kam McLeod and Bryer Schmegelsky
« Reply #151 on: August 03, 2019, 21:32:24 »
Apparently the RCMP is sending a dive team to check part of the Nelson River downstream. A rowboat was found smashed all to hell below a set of rapids, along with a water jug. We’ll see if anything comes of this.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/rcmp-gillam-underwater-search-team-1.5235979
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Re: BC Murders / MB Manhunt of Kam McLeod and Bryer Schmegelsky
« Reply #152 on: August 03, 2019, 23:08:50 »
Apparently the RCMP is sending a dive team to check part of the Nelson River downstream. A rowboat was found smashed all to hell below a set of rapids, along with a water jug. We’ll see if anything comes of this.

Would I be a bad boy if I was hoping that the Mounties found those two guys drowned?
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Re: BC Murders / MB Manhunt of Kam McLeod and Bryer Schmegelsky
« Reply #153 on: August 04, 2019, 02:35:19 »
Would I be a bad boy if I was hoping that the Mounties found those two guys drowned?

Not badder than the rest of us. :nod:

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Re: BC Murders / MB Manhunt of Kam McLeod and Bryer Schmegelsky
« Reply #154 on: August 04, 2019, 10:59:30 »
Think of the money spent on trying to catch two killers.

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Re: BC Murders / MB Manhunt of Kam McLeod and Bryer Schmegelsky
« Reply #155 on: August 04, 2019, 11:12:08 »
Think of the money spent on trying to catch two killers.

I'm thinking of the poor donut shop owners who are missing their regular customers :)
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Re: BC Murders / MB Manhunt of Kam McLeod and Bryer Schmegelsky
« Reply #156 on: August 04, 2019, 11:15:38 »
Think of the money spent on trying to catch two killers.
       If they're dead then it'll work out in the taxpayers favour instead of a huge trial and a few life sentences....
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Re: BC Murders / MB Manhunt of Kam McLeod and Bryer Schmegelsky
« Reply #157 on: August 04, 2019, 13:28:53 »
Think of the money spent on trying to catch two killers.

At what amount should we stop looking for murderers?

Murders in Canada usually fall into three categories: (1) Family/passionate crimes murder - the largest category and usually the fastest and easiest ones to solve; (2) Gang related/Bar altercation type - less easy to solve but of no great import to the public so long as it is gang/mafia/bikers club members doing it to one another only; and, (3) The rest, which includes serial killers and generally killers on the lose with no qualms about killing whenever they think they are recognised. They are usually killers without a specific motive other than just the thrill of killing., and are as a result the most dangerous for the population at large.

These two kids are in the last category, so IMHO, no money or effort should be spared in finding them and puting an end to their activities.


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Re: BC Murders / MB Manhunt of Kam McLeod and Bryer Schmegelsky
« Reply #158 on: August 04, 2019, 17:07:14 »
       If they're dead then it'll work out in the taxpayers favour instead of a huge trial and a few life sentences....

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Re: BC Murders / MB Manhunt of Kam McLeod and Bryer Schmegelsky
« Reply #159 on: August 04, 2019, 19:04:36 »
What I said was poorly worded. Of course law enforcement will pull out all the stops to catch anyone who is a threat to the public. Two untrained kids were able to avoid capture at quite a cost.I was thinking these guys may have gotten some help from people familiar with the area. I dont know if trained special forces could have avoided capture.

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Re: BC Murders / MB Manhunt of Kam McLeod and Bryer Schmegelsky
« Reply #160 on: August 04, 2019, 22:07:10 »
What I said was poorly worded. Of course law enforcement will pull out all the stops to catch anyone who is a threat to the public. Two untrained kids were able to avoid capture at quite a cost.I was thinking these guys may have gotten some help from people familiar with the area. I dont know if trained special forces could have avoided capture.

Maybe the trained special forces would still be alived because these  two.. 'people' are not. Hopefully.

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Re: BC Murders / MB Manhunt of Kam McLeod and Bryer Schmegelsky
« Reply #161 on: August 06, 2019, 16:10:11 »
"Theirs not to reason why/Theirs but to do and die." - Tennyson

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Re: BC Murders / MB Manhunt of Kam McLeod and Bryer Schmegelsky
« Reply #162 on: August 07, 2019, 15:12:01 »
Manitoba RCMP just announced they’ve found the two, dead.
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Re: BC Murders / MB Manhunt of Kam McLeod and Bryer Schmegelsky
« Reply #163 on: August 07, 2019, 15:29:13 »
Manitoba RCMP just announced they’ve found the two, dead.

Good riddance. 
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Re: BC Murders / MB Manhunt of Kam McLeod and Bryer Schmegelsky
« Reply #164 on: August 07, 2019, 16:05:50 »
I wonder if their deaths will be determined to be accidental or intentional...as from what I understand, they did leave behind some personal effects at the boat. Was it to lighten their load or to leave a hint that their corpses could be found nearby?
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Re: BC Murders / MB Manhunt of Kam McLeod and Bryer Schmegelsky
« Reply #165 on: August 07, 2019, 16:17:10 »
I suspect more details will come to light when their bodies are confirmed. Likely clothing makes it very likely it's them, but they may have had their faces chewed off by wildlife. It will be interesting to see the estimated time of death.

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Re: BC Murders / MB Manhunt of Kam McLeod and Bryer Schmegelsky
« Reply #166 on: August 07, 2019, 16:18:05 »
Colin P, I was thinking that too...how long have they been there...
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Re: BC Murders / MB Manhunt of Kam McLeod and Bryer Schmegelsky
« Reply #167 on: August 07, 2019, 16:28:20 »
Manitoba RCMP just announced they’ve found the two, dead.
More from the RCMP info-machine ...
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Significant announcement from Assistant Commissioner Jane MacLatchy regarding the search for the BC suspects in the Gillam area
August 7, 2019
Winnipeg, Manitoba


News release

Over the last two weeks, our officers have worked tirelessly to find the suspects wanted in connection to the homicides in British Columbia.

While there were no confirmed sightings since July 22nd, our officers never gave up in their search efforts – following-up on every lead, considering all options, and using every available resource.

Our officers knew that we just needed to find that one piece of evidence that could move this search forward.

On Friday, August 2nd, that one critical piece of evidence was found – items directly linked to the suspects were located on the shoreline of the Nelson River.

Following this discovery, we were, at last, able to narrow down the search.

We immediately sent in specialized RCMP teams to begin searching nearby high-probability areas.

This morning, at approximately 10:00 am, RCMP officers located two male bodies, in the dense brush, within 1 kilometer from where the items were found. This is approximately 8 km from where the burnt vehicle was located.

At this time, we are confident that these are the bodies of the two suspects wanted in connection with the homicides in British Columbia. An autopsy is being scheduled in Winnipeg to confirm their identities and to determine their cause of death.

To the families of everyone affected by the series of events over the last few weeks, I know it has been so very difficult and I hope today's announcement can begin to bring some closure.

I want to thank the communities and the leadership of Gillam, Fox Lake Cree Nation, Ilford War Lake First Nation and York Landing.

Your lives have been disrupted, many of you lived with uncertainty and fear, but throughout, you were resilient, you came together as communities and you helped our officers get the job done.

To the officers involved in the search efforts; I commend you for your determination, for your innovation, for never giving up, and for working night and day to bring this search to a conclusion.

This was a search that could not have been successfully achieved without the help from our partners at the Canadian Armed Forces, from RCMP employees who came in from across the country and from multiple private partners.

Above all however, it was a search that could only be successful if we had strong public engagement and support.

Thank you to all Canadians for remaining vigilant, for calling us with information and most importantly, for being our partners.

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Re: BC Murders / MB Manhunt of Kam McLeod and Bryer Schmegelsky
« Reply #168 on: August 07, 2019, 16:39:50 »
Good riddance.

True; saves lots of taxpayers money. However, if they had been taken alive may be the police would know why they went on the rampage? Why they killed some people but not others? How they evaded capture for so long? Where did they get their firearms? etc??
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Re: BC Murders / MB Manhunt of Kam McLeod and Bryer Schmegelsky
« Reply #169 on: August 07, 2019, 16:46:30 »
True; saves lots of taxpayers money. However, if they had been taken alive may be the police would know why they went on the rampage? Why they killed some people but not others? How they evaded capture for so long? Where did they get their firearms? etc??

There may be details the police have that’s we haven’t heard yet about a lot of that stuff.  Spending a few days under water is a very effective way of evading capture.  Assuming they drowned.  Time of death I guess will determine how long they were actually “evading” or if they were just both bags of human waste letting nature take its course.

Saves money yes.  But also rids the world of two scumbags no one will miss.  I hope it was a terrifying and suffering ordeal for both of them.
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Re: BC Murders / MB Manhunt of Kam McLeod and Bryer Schmegelsky
« Reply #170 on: August 07, 2019, 16:56:45 »
As much as they were murdering scumbags, I can also see two more young lives wasted, I suspect one mostly followed along.

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Re: BC Murders / MB Manhunt of Kam McLeod and Bryer Schmegelsky
« Reply #171 on: August 07, 2019, 18:22:01 »
As much as they were murdering scumbags, I can also see two more young lives wasted, I suspect one mostly followed along.

For what its worth I agree. AND let's remember they had families too.
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Re: BC Murders / MB Manhunt of Kam McLeod and Bryer Schmegelsky
« Reply #172 on: August 07, 2019, 18:35:39 »
Good riddance.

Hold the phone, here. Are we saying we're glad that these two misunderstood youth, who have yet to be convicted of a crime, are dead? How do we know they didn't just do what many scared kids wrongfully accused of something do, run?  Is there concrete proof beyond the shadow of doubt that these two lambs of god were murderers? Interesting given that the death penalty thread just flared up with all the "kiiling bad people is bad" posts.






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Re: BC Murders / MB Manhunt of Kam McLeod and Bryer Schmegelsky
« Reply #173 on: August 08, 2019, 00:41:41 »
For what its worth I agree. AND let's remember they had families too.

So did the people,they killed.  Remember they set this all into motion. They are responsible for what they did to their own families.  I feel sorry for their families yes not them,.
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Re: BC Murders / MB Manhunt of Kam McLeod and Bryer Schmegelsky
« Reply #174 on: August 08, 2019, 01:53:06 »
As much as they were murdering scumbags, I can also see two more young lives wasted, I suspect one mostly followed along.

I’m glad it’s over without anyone else hurt.

It sucks that families will be denied the potential closure of “why”? A robbery gone wrong, followed by a desperate carjacking? Something else? It’s a damned shame that those most hurt by this won’t be able to know...

I’d say it’s quite likely that the investigators probably know much more of the ‘what’ and maybe some of the ‘why’ than they’ve released (as they would have had no reason to compromise the investigation), and now absent a trial we’ll likely never learn that.
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