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The RCN has its old rank titles and executive curl back.  What should be the next step for the CF rank structure?

Nothing.  The current rank system works, so leave it alone.
120 (58.5%)
Complete return to the pre-unification ranks of the 50s and early 60s.
40 (19.5%)
Complete return to post unification ranks of the 70s and early 80s.
1 (0.5%)
Officers only return to the pre-unification ranks of the 50s and early 60s.
9 (4.4%)
Copy the UK rank system - it is the prototype anyway.
17 (8.3%)
Copy the US rank system - they are the new colonial master.
2 (1%)
Create a whole new Canadian system.
8 (3.9%)
Lobby for standardized NATO rank insignia.
7 (3.4%)
Copy the French rank system - it is the other founding nation's turn
1 (0.5%)

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Author Topic: "Re-Royalization", "Re-Britification" and the Heritage Transformation  (Read 2255315 times)

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Re: "Re-Royalization", "Re-Britification" and the Heritage Transformation
« Reply #5825 on: January 23, 2018, 18:14:26 »
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Re: "Re-Royalization", "Re-Britification" and the Heritage Transformation
« Reply #5826 on: January 25, 2018, 12:42:04 »
The good news is, with this rolling out, the CF MP Gp has no reason to invent one.  Given the atrocity that is the CP Badge, I'm sure it would have been similarly gaudy and oversized.

 :o Hearsay! It's in the group orders that CP is not to be mocked!
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Re: "Re-Royalization", "Re-Britification" and the Heritage Transformation
« Reply #5827 on: February 09, 2018, 15:54:00 »
Well, it's not just us ...
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... now the US Army is going squirrelly over berets ... which makes me wonder if it isn't time for the numpties in charge of the Canadian Army's dress and ceremonial dithering to try and get their "leading change" score a bit higher and get rid of the berets for everyone except the RCAC and parachute units and bring back the World War II field service caps which came in a dazzling variety of colour schemes. 
It is ill that men should kill one another in seditions, tumults and wars; but it is worse to bring nations to such misery, weakness and baseness
as to have neither strength nor courage to contend for anything; to have nothing left worth defending and to give the name of peace to desolation.
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Re: "Re-Royalization", "Re-Britification" and the Heritage Transformation
« Reply #5828 on: February 09, 2018, 18:51:16 »
Well, it's not just us ...
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... now the US Army is going squirrelly over berets ... which makes me wonder if it isn't time for the numpties in charge of the Canadian Army's dress and ceremonial dithering to try and get their "leading change" score a bit higher and get rid of the berets for everyone except the RCAC and parachute units and bring back the World War II field service caps which came in a dazzling variety of colour schemes.

 :o

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Re: "Re-Royalization", "Re-Britification" and the Heritage Transformation
« Reply #5829 on: February 09, 2018, 21:13:09 »
Well, it's not just us ...
.
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... now the US Army is going squirrelly over berets ... which makes me wonder if it isn't time for the numpties in charge of the Canadian Army's dress and ceremonial dithering to try and get their "leading change" score a bit higher and get rid of the berets for everyone except the RCAC and parachute units and bring back the World War II field service caps which came in a dazzling variety of colour schemes.

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Re: "Re-Royalization", "Re-Britification" and the Heritage Transformation
« Reply #5830 on: February 09, 2018, 21:32:19 »
Well, it's not just us ...
.
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... now the US Army is going squirrelly over berets ... which makes me wonder if it isn't time for the numpties in charge of the Canadian Army's dress and ceremonial dithering to try and get their "leading change" score a bit higher and get rid of the berets for everyone except the RCAC and parachute units and bring back the World War II field service caps which came in a dazzling variety of colour schemes.

The Cap, Peaked, Winter - aka C.nt Cap - would dazzle in green.

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Re: "Re-Royalization", "Re-Britification" and the Heritage Transformation
« Reply #5831 on: February 09, 2018, 22:47:17 »
Let's just go to Russian style forage caps if we're just trying to look silly.

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Re: "Re-Royalization", "Re-Britification" and the Heritage Transformation
« Reply #5832 on: February 10, 2018, 07:42:14 »
Let's just go to Russian style forage caps if we're just trying to look silly.

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Or the North Korean ones ... ... just imagine your favourite general wearing that!
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Re: "Re-Royalization", "Re-Britification" and the Heritage Transformation
« Reply #5833 on: February 10, 2018, 07:54:02 »
But just imagine the fun we could have when every regiment and corps and branch had its own (often multi-coloured) cap with additional bits of coloured braid for warrant officers and colonels and generals ...



... imagine RSMs having brain seizures in units with Signals and Medical and Log and RCEME and god alone knows what else soldiers!

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Re: "Re-Royalization", "Re-Britification" and the Heritage Transformation
« Reply #5834 on: February 10, 2018, 10:37:01 »
But just imagine the fun we could have when every regiment and corps and branch had its own (often multi-coloured) cap with additional bits of coloured braid for warrant officers and colonels and generals ...



... imagine RSMs having brain seizures in units with Signals and Medical and Log and RCEME and god alone knows what else soldiers!

They'd be having more than just seizures I think - they would be need implanted defibrillators...reminds me of when I first got to 2RCR and we had to Troop the Colours - no RCAF/RCN folks allowed, JV wanted a sea of green folks (or red if you ended up in the Escort/Grenadier guard).  Myself and another medic ended up in India Coy's guard - we had a third one from the UMS, but he got tossed when the CSM noted a blue beret.  I ended up dead centre of the parade frontage with Jon Vance staring/glaring at the throwing star on my rack instead of my head.  Don't get me going about the silliness that ensued the day of the dress rehearsal when people saw my medals - the Order of St John was throwing a few of them off for some reason.

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Re: "Re-Royalization", "Re-Britification" and the Heritage Transformation
« Reply #5835 on: February 10, 2018, 10:41:36 »
But Logistiks would be over the moon supplying all the required colours, variations and sizes.  A virtual gold mine for them.

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Re: "Re-Royalization", "Re-Britification" and the Heritage Transformation
« Reply #5836 on: February 12, 2018, 09:16:35 »

Or the North Korean ones ... ... just imagine your favourite general wearing that!

Ahh, but so useful! You could keep your lunch in it, or your shopping. If your troop transport overturns on the way to invade Japan or South Korea, you have a life preserver! Use it as a washbasin! Or, considering NK's new role as Everybody's Winter Olympics Friend, use it for downhill snow-tubing!!

Ohh, those North Koreans! What will they think of next?
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Re: "Re-Royalization", "Re-Britification" and the Heritage Transformation
« Reply #5837 on: February 12, 2018, 10:26:27 »
But Logistiks would be over the moon supplying all the required colours, variations and sizes.  A virtual gold mine for them.

Wait for it...
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