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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #25 on: October 02, 2010, 19:35:21 »
I realize questions of this nature probably come by here a lot, so thanks in advance for helping me with my concerns.

I am currently in Grade 12 and live in Winnipeg. I was speaking with a friend of mine who applied to join the reserves last month and he really piqued my interest. I've done some research but I am looking for a bit more information.

Firstly, I am in Grade 12 and at the moment finishing high school strongly is my main priority, with university applications and scholarships becoming more of an issue. Is it possible to commit fully to school and the Reserves as well? Those who have done this, how did it go for you?
What are the hours like, I hear that it is one night per week and one weekend per month, what exactly does "weekend per month" mean?

Are all possibly military trades and specialities available to somebody who is interested at this age? How does specializing go?

What sort of additional materials do I require for my application? I have heard that I require references, how many do I require?

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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #26 on: October 02, 2010, 20:03:35 »
Is it possible to commit fully to school and the Reserves as well?

No it has never been done before..

You are not the first person to ask this question, or anything else about being in the Reserves and school.. search and you will have lots of info on everything you want to know and more.

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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #27 on: October 02, 2010, 21:12:38 »
I realize questions of this nature probably come by here a lot, so thanks in advance for helping me with my concerns.

I am currently in Grade 12 and live in Winnipeg. I was speaking with a friend of mine who applied to join the reserves last month and he really piqued my interest. I've done some research but I am looking for a bit more information.

Firstly, I am in Grade 12 and at the moment finishing high school strongly is my main priority, with university applications and scholarships becoming more of an issue. Is it possible to commit fully to school and the Reserves as well? Those who have done this, how did it go for you?
What are the hours like, I hear that it is one night per week and one weekend per month, what exactly does "weekend per month" mean?

Are all possibly military trades and specialities available to somebody who is interested at this age? How does specializing go?

What sort of additional materials do I require for my application? I have heard that I require references, how many do I require?
1. Yes, if you have time management skills, you may be able to balance high school and the reserves.

No, not all military trades are available to you. Many have specific requirements that a high schooler does not have - you can find requirements at www.forces.ca.

Your application consists of tons of paperwork to be filled out, 5 references you've known for 5 years (not including family members), an aptitude test, an interview, medical exam, and fitness test.

All of this information is on www.forces.ca, and in other threads on this message board. Check there for more info.
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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2011, 23:50:28 »
Hello,
I have been wanting to join the reserves for the past couple of years and had planned on joining The Cameron Highlanders of Ottawa, however I have hit multiple snags that include summer school and other problems that preventing me from full commitment over the summer.
From what I have read basic training lasts longer then 10 weeks and this cuts into my school (I am going to CEGEP in Hull) and I was wondering if their was other options of doing basic training so I can continue with my education? I have seen people say that the training can happen on weekend's however I'm not completely sure if this is true or not and was hoping to shed some light on the situation.
Also I'm a Quebec Citizen, does this effect me at all if I want to join a Ottawa based Reserve?
If their isn't any other way then I will go after my courses are completely finished, I was just hoping to join the reserves this year, any information will be helpful.

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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #29 on: June 04, 2011, 00:51:06 »
Unless I am mistaken, reservists do not take the 12 week BMQ in St.Jean. The BMQ is conducted on weekends by the home unit with very few exceptions to that.

I also do not believe distance to your unit matters. The concern would lay in your ability to get to and from your unit on parade nights on time.

My advice is contact the unit you are wanting to sign up with and ask them how their unit is run, when and how their BMQ is conducted, what nights they parade on and times and then judge if it will fit into your present situation with school. No one here can give you better information about the unit you want to join than that specific unit can.

their website is http://www.camerons.ca/

As per their site
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The Cameron Highlanders of Ottawa normally train on Thursday nights and one weekend per month during the Fall, Winter and Spring months. Training is normally conducted at the unit but may be in the field, putting theory to practice. During the summer months, members may seek opportunities for full-time employment. Opportunities to serve with the Regular Force are available in support of Canada's NATO and United Nations commitments. Some of your training may also be taken with the Regular Force. You may be called upon to perform a number of tasks in support of civilian authorities such as providing assistance in fighting floods or forest fires, searching for lost children, medical emergencies, or participating in ceremonial parades. The Cameron Highlanders of Ottawa have an enviable reputation of "getting the job done" when asked.

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Application forms for enrollment are available from our Recruiting Office located in Cartier Square Drill Hall, 2 Queen Elizabeth Drive, Ottawa on Monday and Thursday evenings between 1900hrs and 2200hrs (7-10P.M.)


I did not see a phone number on the site, but with the address it shouldn't be too difficult to look up.

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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #30 on: June 04, 2011, 08:42:51 »
Unless I am mistaken, reservists do not take the 12 week BMQ in St.Jean. The BMQ is conducted on weekends by the home unit with very few exceptions to that.

Some Reservists do take the Reg Force BMQ course.  Army Reservists don't though, also there are summer BMQ courses which are full time not weekends like during the fall.  Also, courses you take post BMQ can either be run during the year on weekends and some are run full time in the summer.  Depends on the course as to if it's a weekend or full time course, ie a driver course can be done on weekends but AFAIK all trade courses(DP1/QL3) would be run full time in the summer.

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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #31 on: June 04, 2011, 12:19:45 »
Thanks for the information!

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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #32 on: June 04, 2011, 15:46:37 »
The reservists who do the RegF BMQ are Air Reserve and Naval Reserve. They mostly train at NRTD (Naval Reserve Training Division) Borden and the officers do BMOQ at NOTC (Naval Officer Training Centre) VENTURE at CFB Esquimalt. Even though these are naval training establishments, they also do air reserve training for BMQ or BMOQ. There have been naval and air reservists in the past who have gone through CFLRS (there are a few mentions of this happening elsewhere on this site), but these are the exception rather than the norm, and I think this has been all but eliminated now (please correct me if I'm wrong).

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the courses run at NRTD Borden and NOTC VENTURE are also actually slightly shorter (a couple of weeks at most) than the courses at CFLRS due to training done at the reserve unit.

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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #33 on: June 04, 2011, 16:57:59 »
Aah i was indeed mistaken then. Thank you for the clarification guys  :salute:

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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #34 on: June 04, 2011, 17:02:36 »
The majority of persons enrolled in the (army) reserves are students, not only are most of the basic and trades courses run during the summer to accommodating students, but post-courses, most unit training is run with a student schedule in mind.

They're also fairly accommodating for things like exams, etc, if you've got to take some time away from work for educational reasons.

They've recently changed from BMQ/SQ (Meaning two courses making up what considered "basic training") to what we now call BMQ(L) (Which means one longer basic training) for the army... not sure the length of the new course, but the two old courses together were approx a month each, no problem for a high-school or university student to accomplish both in a summer.

Trades courses vary in length, if (and most can) they can't fit into a single summer, they're split into modules spread over multiple summers.

Even if you can't make a full time commitment this summer, if you're going to be able to make a commitment next summer, it's worth talking to a recruiter now, get the paperwork done, start parading in the fall, and do a BMQ spread over weekends during the winter.
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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #35 on: June 05, 2011, 07:41:19 »
Are there opportunities for high school students to do a part of the reservist BMQ over the spring break, in general?

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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #36 on: June 05, 2011, 08:22:13 »
In general no. Army reserve BMQ is typically completed over the summer or on weekends during the school year to accommodate the large number of students.

A recruiter at your prospective unit would be able to answer that and the other questions you have asked over the past couple of months. Best of luck.
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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #37 on: June 05, 2011, 22:14:01 »
Are there opportunities for high school students to do a part of the reservist BMQ over the spring break, in general?

I've known this to have been done in one unit.  All it is is a weekend BMQ that runs solid for a week during the March Break, presumably shaving off a few weekends from the length of the course.  No idea if this is at all a common practice.

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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #38 on: June 06, 2011, 17:11:40 »
It's not rare.

Any time a unit can use a holiday (part of christmas break/easter break/spring break) as part of BMQ, it saves a lot of admin time (issuing/returning weapons is a big one)
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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #39 on: March 02, 2012, 15:13:00 »
I've been interested in joining the army for a while so i wnt ahead and contacted a recrutiter, he said that you are able to join the reserves at 16 with parental consent but today my mom wanted more information about the reserves so she contacted a recruiter and he told her that you cannot join reserves under the age of 18 so im just wondering if this is true?

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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #40 on: March 02, 2012, 15:16:39 »
I joined the reserves at 16 with parental consent. The rules have changed a bit though since then, someone correct me if I am wrong. I believe it is 17 with parental consent for reserves and 16 with parental consent while applying for RMC

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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #41 on: March 02, 2012, 15:23:32 »
I joined the reserves at 16 with parental consent. The rules have changed a bit though since then, someone correct me if I am wrong. I believe it is 17 with parental consent for reserves and 16 with parental consent while applying for RMC
   Well that sucks i was really looking forward to enlisting but i've been waiting for 6 years one mores not so bad.

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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #42 on: March 02, 2012, 15:29:12 »
Off forces.ca

Be 17 years of age (with parental or guardian consent) or older, except:

    Regular Officer Training Plan – Junior applicants, who must be 16 years of age or older

This has also been discussed on the this forum before, remember to use the search function (or google, it works better) before starting a new thread and good luck with your eventual process.

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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #43 on: March 02, 2012, 16:22:43 »
It is correct that the age is now 17. However I would still reccomend trying, for me they still processed me while I was 16 but I was not able to swear in until I turned 17. I can't guarantee it will happen, but its worth a try.

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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #44 on: March 02, 2012, 16:30:27 »
yeah i hope i could get my processing done at least and to be honest i'm not sure if the guy even knew everything because he said there is no possible way to get into the forces until the age of 18 unless i do a high school coop program and i don't think thats true.

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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #45 on: March 02, 2012, 16:49:19 »
Patience, Youngling. The rest of your life before you, you have.

In the meantime, spellcheck, proper grammar, sentence structure, capitalization, and punctuation please use.

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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #46 on: March 02, 2012, 16:49:29 »
From CANFORGEN 038/11

3. IN THE RESERVE FORCE, AN APPLICANT MUST BE:

A. AGE 18, IF THE APPLICANT ENROLS IN THE COATS OR CANADIAN RANGERS

B. AGE 16, IF THE APPLICANT IS SELECTED FOR EDUCATION AND TRAINING AT A ROYAL MILITARY COLLEGE OR OTHERWISE MAINTAINS FULL-TIME STUDENT STATUS UNTIL AGE 17.



Nothing here says that high school does not count. I know that I enrolled a guy in January who is 16 and who had no trouble going through CFRC. He's still in high school full time. I do not know if explicitly that reasoning was used by CFRC, but there was no hindrance and they certainly knew his age.
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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #47 on: March 02, 2012, 19:25:02 »
From CANFORGEN 038/11

3. IN THE RESERVE FORCE, AN APPLICANT MUST BE:

A. AGE 18, IF THE APPLICANT ENROLS IN THE COATS OR CANADIAN RANGERS

B. AGE 16, IF THE APPLICANT IS SELECTED FOR EDUCATION AND TRAINING AT A ROYAL MILITARY COLLEGE OR OTHERWISE MAINTAINS FULL-TIME STUDENT STATUS UNTIL AGE 17.



Nothing here says that high school does not count. I know that I enrolled a guy in January who is 16 and who had no trouble going through CFRC. He's still in high school full time. I do not know if explicitly that reasoning was used by CFRC, but there was no hindrance and they certainly knew his age.
 
Yeah I'm going to head down to the recruiting office sometime next week and see if there's anyway I could at least start my processing now. I have no problem waiting I was just confused because I was told different things.

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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #48 on: March 02, 2012, 19:56:24 »
 
Yeah I'm going to head down to the recruiting office sometime next week and see if there's anyway I could at least start my processing now. I have no problem waiting I was just confused because I was told different things.

All you can do is get the forms and fill them out.  The CFRC will not process them until such time as you are of age.   The forms in the meantime may become lost or destroyed.
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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #49 on: March 02, 2012, 20:37:35 »
All you can do is get the forms and fill them out.  The CFRC will not process them until such time as you are of age.   The forms in the meantime may become lost or destroyed.

The previous poster stated he had a member sworn in at 16 this past January. Given that, CFRC would process him at 16.

3b of CANFORGEN 038/11 would appear to apply.