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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #50 on: January 02, 2012, 22:58:59 »
If you have a situation where you wouldn't be chewing gum, don't use your chew.

There's bigger things to worry about.
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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #51 on: January 04, 2012, 03:50:10 »
I have never seen anyone take any issue to/for chewing, minus 3 very obvious inappropriate times contrary to common courtesy.

-Someone in a class who spat so loud it sounded like a movie sound effect.
-Someone who left a nice present in a sink for the CSM on his walkaround of the lines (no chewing in building for a month).
-Someone on battle school who got caught with a lipper in during a drill class (I don't know his logic, I'm not a doctor).

I find it hard to imagine why someone who one was working with would have that big of a grievance with it if it was done discreetly and cleanly, but then again I'm kind of part of the problem on this issue ;) *ptew*

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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #52 on: January 04, 2012, 04:04:32 »
We used to have a policy on the airbus not to allow passengers to chew after one to many Flight Attendants reached into a seat back to clean it out and found either a water bottle half full of spit, or even worse, one of the paper cups leaking over the place.

I know some Scandinavian officers who use this brand of spitless chewing tobacco, more of a dip they keep tucked  into their cheek/lip area. They only spit it out when they are done.

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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #53 on: January 04, 2012, 05:58:33 »
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5. The use of tobacco products is forbidden on all 1 Cdn Air Div aircraft.  Use of tobacco includes the act of lighting, chewing, expectorating, or smoking a product containing tobacco.     

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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #54 on: January 12, 2012, 20:57:00 »
The harms of chewing tobacco is greater than smoking.

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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #55 on: January 12, 2012, 22:19:35 »
Some units do have restrictions on chewing tobacco, unless its changed, 2 RCR isn't allowed chewing except in designated smoking areas.

In my section we had a policy of NO CLEAR SPITOONS because it's friggin gross to look at.
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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #56 on: January 12, 2012, 22:23:00 »
We used to have a policy on the airbus not to allow passengers to chew after one to many Flight Attendants reached into a seat back to clean it out and found either a water bottle half full of spit, or even worse, one of the paper cups leaking over the place.

I know some Scandinavian officers who use this brand of spitless chewing tobacco, more of a dip they keep tucked  into their cheek/lip area. They only spit it out when they are done.

It's called Snus. You can't get it in Canada per se, but you can get it by mail order. I switched to it when I was quitting smoking. Interestingly, because of the way it's processed (steam curing) it's being studied with great interest by harm reduction types as it doesn't contain significant quantities of tobacco-specific nitrosamines that are generally fingered as the main carcinogenic agent in tobacco. It doesn't require spitting, as it doesn't generate hypersalivation like North American chewing tobaccos. I got it from a Swedish website, and in small orders never once did I get customs hassles.

Better, however, to just use one of the mainly aids available to break the nicotine addiction. It's better in the long run.
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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #57 on: February 19, 2012, 00:23:45 »
Going to try some of this stuff soon:
http://www.dipstop.com/

I'll pass on a review when I get it.
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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #58 on: February 19, 2012, 11:44:06 »
Going to try some of this stuff soon:
http://www.dipstop.com/

I'll pass on a review when I get it.

It's good. I used a mint "snuff" of a different type to wean myself off snus (sort of a three step process). It wasn't that kind but same idea.

Don't bother with the "Smokey Mountain" brand stuff you might see around. It's a sticky mess, not a good substitute.
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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #59 on: February 19, 2012, 12:39:57 »
It's good. I used a mint "snuff" of a different type to wean myself off snus (sort of a three step process). It wasn't that kind but same idea.

Very similar to you, I used Copenhagen's Winter Green for a week and a half to quit smoking. I believe it kept the nicotine in my system yet broke my hands of the habit of lighting up. I was on a rig at the time and threw my tin out the window a mile from home, being a randy youngish buck at the time I knew SWMBO would not be receptive to a lip full...if you catch my drift ;D
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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #60 on: February 21, 2012, 04:23:08 »
What is your unit policy on chewing tobacco? I'm getting rode hard over me chewing. Can't do it in the garage...nor the smoking area. And I use a bottle to spit. Civvies cried foul to the Sgt over me. And this my way of getting my fix without smoking.  Seems to me that if you are unionized in DND, you get to go on a whining campaign. I hate garrison!

Sorry for the vent,
It pisses me off even now.. pills or not.

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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #61 on: March 02, 2012, 15:13:00 »
I've been interested in joining the army for a while so i wnt ahead and contacted a recrutiter, he said that you are able to join the reserves at 16 with parental consent but today my mom wanted more information about the reserves so she contacted a recruiter and he told her that you cannot join reserves under the age of 18 so im just wondering if this is true?

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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #62 on: March 02, 2012, 15:16:39 »
I joined the reserves at 16 with parental consent. The rules have changed a bit though since then, someone correct me if I am wrong. I believe it is 17 with parental consent for reserves and 16 with parental consent while applying for RMC

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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #63 on: March 02, 2012, 15:23:32 »
I joined the reserves at 16 with parental consent. The rules have changed a bit though since then, someone correct me if I am wrong. I believe it is 17 with parental consent for reserves and 16 with parental consent while applying for RMC
   Well that sucks i was really looking forward to enlisting but i've been waiting for 6 years one mores not so bad.

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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #64 on: March 02, 2012, 15:29:12 »
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Be 17 years of age (with parental or guardian consent) or older, except:

    Regular Officer Training Plan – Junior applicants, who must be 16 years of age or older

This has also been discussed on the this forum before, remember to use the search function (or google, it works better) before starting a new thread and good luck with your eventual process.

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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #65 on: March 02, 2012, 16:22:43 »
It is correct that the age is now 17. However I would still reccomend trying, for me they still processed me while I was 16 but I was not able to swear in until I turned 17. I can't guarantee it will happen, but its worth a try.

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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #66 on: March 02, 2012, 16:30:27 »
yeah i hope i could get my processing done at least and to be honest i'm not sure if the guy even knew everything because he said there is no possible way to get into the forces until the age of 18 unless i do a high school coop program and i don't think thats true.

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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #67 on: March 02, 2012, 16:49:19 »
Patience, Youngling. The rest of your life before you, you have.

In the meantime, spellcheck, proper grammar, sentence structure, capitalization, and punctuation please use.

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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #68 on: March 02, 2012, 16:49:29 »
From CANFORGEN 038/11

3. IN THE RESERVE FORCE, AN APPLICANT MUST BE:

A. AGE 18, IF THE APPLICANT ENROLS IN THE COATS OR CANADIAN RANGERS

B. AGE 16, IF THE APPLICANT IS SELECTED FOR EDUCATION AND TRAINING AT A ROYAL MILITARY COLLEGE OR OTHERWISE MAINTAINS FULL-TIME STUDENT STATUS UNTIL AGE 17.



Nothing here says that high school does not count. I know that I enrolled a guy in January who is 16 and who had no trouble going through CFRC. He's still in high school full time. I do not know if explicitly that reasoning was used by CFRC, but there was no hindrance and they certainly knew his age.
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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #69 on: March 02, 2012, 19:25:02 »
From CANFORGEN 038/11

3. IN THE RESERVE FORCE, AN APPLICANT MUST BE:

A. AGE 18, IF THE APPLICANT ENROLS IN THE COATS OR CANADIAN RANGERS

B. AGE 16, IF THE APPLICANT IS SELECTED FOR EDUCATION AND TRAINING AT A ROYAL MILITARY COLLEGE OR OTHERWISE MAINTAINS FULL-TIME STUDENT STATUS UNTIL AGE 17.



Nothing here says that high school does not count. I know that I enrolled a guy in January who is 16 and who had no trouble going through CFRC. He's still in high school full time. I do not know if explicitly that reasoning was used by CFRC, but there was no hindrance and they certainly knew his age.
 
Yeah I'm going to head down to the recruiting office sometime next week and see if there's anyway I could at least start my processing now. I have no problem waiting I was just confused because I was told different things.

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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #70 on: March 02, 2012, 19:56:24 »
 
Yeah I'm going to head down to the recruiting office sometime next week and see if there's anyway I could at least start my processing now. I have no problem waiting I was just confused because I was told different things.

All you can do is get the forms and fill them out.  The CFRC will not process them until such time as you are of age.   The forms in the meantime may become lost or destroyed.
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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #71 on: March 02, 2012, 20:37:35 »
All you can do is get the forms and fill them out.  The CFRC will not process them until such time as you are of age.   The forms in the meantime may become lost or destroyed.

The previous poster stated he had a member sworn in at 16 this past January. Given that, CFRC would process him at 16.

3b of CANFORGEN 038/11 would appear to apply.


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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #72 on: March 02, 2012, 22:23:52 »
I'm beyond confused I understand you need to be 17 to enlist but I have different people telling me all different things so I'm just going to have to wait till next week when I am able to go in to the recruiting centre to see what they have to say.

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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #73 on: March 02, 2012, 23:10:18 »
I'm beyond confused I understand you need to be 17 to enlist but I have different people telling me all different things so I'm just going to have to wait till next week when I am able to go in to the recruiting centre to see what they have to say.

Sounds like a plan. Let us know what CFRC's latest take is.

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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #74 on: March 02, 2012, 23:25:48 »
Well you can look at my situation.

Currently I am still 16 (turn 17 in May) and I already started my application at an artillery reserve unit in Vancouver (dropped it off on Feb. 28th). I was told by the recruiter that all my testing and interview can be finished right now, but I have wait till my 17th birthday to actually be sworn in. (And for the trade to open up April 1st)

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