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Offline northbound23

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Re: Pre-Assessment Required
« Reply #25 on: February 24, 2015, 10:37:21 »
Wow, within an hour of posting this yesterday, I received an email from the CFRC saying that my pre-assessment was being sent off. Now to wait for my pre-assessment to be cleared. Hopefully it doesn't take more than a few months.

It's pretty simple.  After completing the Pre-Sec Questionnaire, you wait.  If it so happens that the response to questionnaire results in you being subject to the Pre-Sec process, then you submit the 330-60.  Your CFRC submits that to Ottawa and then the waiting begins.  Wait times vary and can range from 2-24 months depending on the country(s) involved."
My problem wasn't with the questionnaire or if I was require to go through Pre-sec. When I called in I was told I had been deemed "Required". I knew I was required but nobody was contacting me for the information to actually send it to Ottawa so I basically had to pursue the issue myself and bother them enough until they sent it. Thank you for the time range, I'm gonna take your advice and just call in once every 6 weeks or so to show interest.
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Basically my question is if any of you guys have had any experience with Pre-Enrolment Security Clearance Pre-Assessment Questionnaire and if so how long did the whole process take because on the website it says it could take between 6-18 months to complete.

I just sent in my on-line employment application to the CAF yesterday and I would like to get through this whole process without any major delays. One of the questions on the application was whether or not I have lived in Canada continuously for the past 10 years but I have only lived here continuously for 7 years. However it does say that the Security Clearance Pre-assessment MAY be necessary so hopefully I can avoid it.

I was born in Canada in 1995 and I'm a Canadian citizen. In 2001 I moved with my parents to Kuwait and lived there until 2007. In 2007 me and my mom moved to Slovakia and lived there for almost a year and then we moved back to Canada in March 2008 and I've been here ever since. I don't have a dual citizenship, I'm a Canadian citizen, I don't have any immediate relatives that live outside of Canada. Again the only thing is that I have resided outside of Canada in excess of 180 days in the last ten years. Do you think that will require me to complete the Security Clearance Pre-assessment? I really don't want to have to wait an extra 6-18 months on top of the regular wait time to join the CAF.

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The questionnaire that you filled out, will be sent to another office in Ottawa who will decide whether or not you will be subject to a full Pre-Sec.

All you can do, is wait for your CFRC to respond back.
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The questionnaire that you filled out, will be sent to another office in Ottawa who will decide whether or not you will be subject to a full Pre-Sec.

I'm a little confused, which questionnaire are you talking about? The only thing I have filled out and submitted was my on-line employment application. Am I supposed to have already filled Pre-Enrolment Security Clearance Pre-Assessment Questionnaire or do I wait for them to tell me to fill it out? On the Forces.ca website under "Apply Now" they talk about the Pre-Enrolment Security Clearance Pre-Assessment Questionnaire under step 6 and I'm not even done step 2 yet because they haven't asked me to contact my local recruiting centre.

Thank you for the reply by the way.

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I'm a little confused, which questionnaire are you talking about? The only thing I have filled out and submitted was my on-line employment application. Am I supposed to have already filled Pre-Enrolment Security Clearance Pre-Assessment Questionnaire or do I wait for them to tell me to fill it out? On the Forces.ca website under "Apply Now" they talk about the Pre-Enrolment Security Clearance Pre-Assessment Questionnaire under step 6 and I'm not even done step 2 yet because they haven't asked me to contact my local recruiting centre.

Thank you for the reply by the way.

My bad.....

Once you have been contacted and are scheduled to write the CFAT/TSD, they will have you complete that questionnaire and that will be sent for assessment.
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Oh I see, thank you very much for the info. Guess I will just have to keep my fingers crossed

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Information Regarding Security Clearance Pre-Assessment
« Reply #31 on: July 10, 2017, 13:01:00 »
Hello,

I am currently in the application process and my CFAT is next week. Just wondering if anyone here knows what decision process looks like regarding the "Security Clearance Pre-Assessment". I've done some minor traveling which I don't expect to be an issue but what I am concerned about it having to wait 6-18 months longer due to the fact that I have a common-law relationship with my Australian partner.

I have listed both her parents and step-father as my "in-laws" via common-law although I have only met her mother and step-father once and I have never met her father. Unless I am mistaken these checks are to verify personal connections to potentially damaging parties abroad through relationships and not to sound crass but I don't really have a relationship with the parents of my partner who live on the other side of the world and it would really suck to have to wait for almost double the time of a normal application for this reason.

Not going to "complain" about it if it happens then it happens but just wondering what the process/decision making factors are regarding these kinds of checks.

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Pre-Assessment Questionnaire(330-60e)+ Interview?
« Reply #33 on: February 04, 2018, 20:23:38 »
After completion of CFAT & TBS 330-23 (Mintz Global Security),

I was required to fill out Pre-Enrolment Security Clearance Pre-Assessment Questionnaire (330-60e)(not signed, just email), and wait for "Pre-Assessment Interview" in CFRC office to sign & submit this form (to Ottawa, which begins the real 6-18 months assessment process).

My questions:
1. How long to wait for "Pre-Assessment Interview"? It has been 2 weeks since I submitted it through email.

2. I was exchange student to Germany for 5 months in 2013 and I was required to get police background check for the period.
2.1 Do I must get the background check myself (Y/N)? or it should be done during assessment?
2.2 Do I must get it before "Pre-Assessment Interview", or I could do it as supplyment document during the process?

This "Pre-Assessment Interview" looks addition to "Pre-Assessment Questionnaire", I didn't find information through search. Please help. Thanks.

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Re: Pre-Assessment Questionnaire
« Reply #34 on: February 05, 2018, 13:48:06 »
A couple points for you.

1. The "TBS 330-23E/F" and "TBS 330-60E/F" are Treasury Board Forms; Mintz Global Security was the company performing the background checks for the CAF, the two aren't linked.  In the very near future (if not already in some area's) a new company has been contracted to perform the background checks.

2. To answer #1; the time period that you will have to wait to get the Pre-Assessment Interview can vary on CFRC and the time of year you're applying.  If you've applied for an occupation that is currently closed for processing, you won't be seen until the occupation opens again.  If you've applied to a CFRC that is at maximum processing capacity at the moment and you've applied for an occupation that isn't identified as priority you won't be seen until the CFRC is able to process more files.  You should contact your particular CFRC and ask them how long of a wait you should expect before having your appointment.

3. For 2.1 you will receive directions when you have your Pre-Assessment done; wait for those instructions.

4. Without knowing your complete history it's hard to tell online if you do have to do a Pre-Assessment process; however from the sounds of your message, yes you meet at least one (if not more) of the conditions that requires someone to have a Pre-Assessment completed.  Added on top of this, CFRC's rarely (mistakes happen, we're human) put someone through a process that isn't required.

As always recruiting is your best source of information on your particular file; you should really reach out to your CFRC and speak with someone there.

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Re: Pre-Assessment Questionnaire
« Reply #35 on: February 06, 2018, 07:41:16 »
1. The "TBS 330-23E/F" and "TBS 330-60E/F" are Treasury Board Forms; Mintz Global Security was the company performing the background checks for the CAF, the two aren't linked.  In the very near future (if not already in some area's) a new company has been contracted to perform the background checks.

Mintz called my references 2 months ago. So I think 330-23 is completed, 330-60e is additional requirement to 330-23, because I met all 3 conditions (not borned, not lived 10 years, have parents abroad).
I just don't know 330-23 and 330-60e are separate process and I have to go over both.


If you've applied for an occupation that is currently closed for processing, you won't be seen until the occupation opens again.  If you've applied to a CFRC that is at maximum processing capacity at the moment and you've applied for an occupation that isn't identified as priority you won't be seen until the CFRC is able to process more files.  You should contact your particular CFRC and ask them how long of a wait you should expect before having your appointment.
Trades always reopen in April, but the pre-assessment takes 1-2 years anyway - longer than annual selection cycle. I don't know if change trades could accelerate the process (from LOG to NCMs, anyway the pre-assessment is unavoidable).
Visiting CFRC office should be best way. Thanks a lot!