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Transferring to another unit (RESERVE)
« on: June 02, 2002, 21:52:00 »
Hi,
    Getting ready for course this summer, but I dont know what to do. I ammoving to edmonton next fall for school. How do I transfer to the Loyal Edmonton Regiment? from the Calgary Highlanders?

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Re: Transferring to another unit (RESERVE)
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2002, 09:28:00 »
Talk to your unit orderly room about the process. They will send a message to the gaining unit.

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Re: Transferring to another unit (RESERVE)
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2002, 11:46:00 »
The LER recruiting cell can be reached at 780-973-1474.  It‘s pretty much the only way to reach anyone in the unit since the orderly rooms have been centralized in the new armory.

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« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2002, 17:19:00 »
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Re: Transferring to another unit (RESERVE)
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2004, 03:02:31 »
Hi there,

I will be transferring to a PRes unit in a different province shortly.   Can anyone tell me what happens to my pers kit (cbts, webbing, ruck)?  

I was told that I would have to return everything, including cbt boots, cbts, deu.   However, it doesn't seem too logical or efficient, esp with the boots.   I have small feet and it took several months for the boots to come in (size 2-2.5).     Plus, it seems like a waste of taxpayer money to have new boots reissued, when I have had these for the past year and they fit very well.

I would also like to keep my webbing and ruck (for sentimental reasons) :warstory:.   Is it possible to take these items with me when I transfer?

Thanks in advance!


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Re: Transferring to another unit (RESERVE)
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2004, 09:25:45 »
Hi Logo,

I am also in the process of transferring to another unit and I am being allowed to keep my kit.   The only exception would be items signed over to you that belong specifically to the unit.   In my case that meant returning the cap badge.   Anyway that's how it works for Toronto-area units - not sure if it's the same where you are.

Good luck with the move.
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Re: Transferring to another unit (RESERVE)
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2004, 11:53:31 »
logo: It will depend on how fast you want to do the transfer. Your unit will send a message to your new unit asking if they have a position available for you, and are willing to take you on strength. If the gaining unit says yes, then your unit will transfer all your clothing documents over to your new unit. If this isn't completed before you leave, then you may need to hand everything in. Also, all regimental accoutrements (Scarlets, kilts, Number 1s, mess kit etc.) will have to be handed in.
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Re: Transferring to another unit (RESERVE)
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2004, 14:16:02 »
When I transferred reserve units a few years ago, I had to give back my ruck, sleeping bag and accessories, bivvy bag, mosquito net, and of all things, the 2 mag pouches off my webbing. Anything that I had gotten from the losing unit's QM had to be returned as part of the out clearance process. I'm surprised they are taking your boots though! That should be part of your initial issue for clothing... Maybe you should ask them again?

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Re: Transferring to another unit (RESERVE)
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2004, 14:53:57 »
You should fin out if it makes a difference that you are changing Commands. CJ you just changed units in the same command. You also do not get issued Scarlets or Ceremonial Dress

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Re: Transferring to another unit (RESERVE)
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2004, 14:58:19 »
CJ you just changed units in the same command. You also do not get issued Scarlets or Ceremonial Dress

La-dee-dah  ;)

Fair enough, but in your unit do your RMS Clerks wear the uniform with the chainmail and the yellow stripe and such? If they don't there should be no reason for things like uniforms or boots to be returned. As for the cap badge, do you guys get to keep that if you leave? Like say to my unit if you decide to remuster?

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Re: Transferring to another unit (RESERVE)
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2004, 15:01:27 »
You should fin out if it makes a difference that you are changing Commands. CJ you just changed units in the same command. You also do not get issued Scarlets or Ceremonial Dress

Commands?   If he is staying with the Militia, he isn't transferring Commands.   Possibly Brigades or Areas.   Some units still issue Ceremonial Dress to soldiers in certain positions.   I also believe that parts of the Guards units still have scarlets.
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Re: Transferring to another unit (RESERVE)
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2004, 15:45:43 »
Correct me if I'm wrong but a brigade or area arecommand groups just diferent levels. That's why they have commanders. As to the cerimonial dress i don't beleive there is one for the Signals core. They ain't been around that long. Cmbt Arms unit all have cerimonila period uniforms. Not sure how many CSS units do though.

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Re: Transferring to another unit (RESERVE)
« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2004, 17:37:56 »
"Commands" usually refers to Land Force Command, Maritime Command, Air Command.

I don't know about other service battalions, but mine does for Snr NCOs and Offices.
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Re: Transferring to another unit (RESERVE)
« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2004, 20:47:07 »
Appreciate the info!

I will be transferring to a different bde, but the paperwork has not gone through yet since it's still summer stand down.
 
The thing is, I received my basic kit (cbts, webbing, ruck) from the ASU clothing dept (which is annotated on the computer on my individual account holding) and the rest from my unit's QM (Goretex, fleece, etc) on a temporary issue card.

So does that mean that I have to return all the kit issued by my QM and can bring the stuff the ASU issued with me when I move?

Thanks!

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Re: Transferring to another unit (RESERVE)
« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2004, 18:36:06 »
Now I am just guessing... Any Supply Techs help us out here!! But I would say that anything on your personal clothing docs (ie all the stuff you got at the ASU) you get to keep. The fleece and Gortex... If it was a temporary loan card then I would say that you are SOL unless you clarify with the QM staff and see if you can keep the stuff. Try to get them to put it on your clothing docs if possible. I know that's where all my gortex kit is...

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Re: Transferring to another unit (RESERVE)
« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2004, 20:06:14 »
Anything you got issued from your unit QM, IE Temp loan card has to go back. Anything from the ASU or CFB stays with you. Buddy of mine just changed units, had a to find a bunch of his kit (including half a sleepingbag) to turn into the unit. You got the short end of the stick with that Gortex, hopefully the unit you're moving to has some for you.

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Re: Transferring to another unit (RESERVE)
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2004, 20:39:38 »
I have just submitted my memo to switch from a sig op  to infanteer. Im in the reserves and have completed my bmq and sq, so if anyone knows how long it usually takes that would be great. Also im in the Communication Reserve now so i would have to be put into the Army reserve which would probably add extra time.

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Re: Transferring to another unit (RESERVE)
« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2005, 04:26:26 »
It all depends on your orderly room and how quickly your staff really want you to leave.

I have heard of some transfers taking a month and some never even happening, go throught your Orderly Room get the paperwork in motion, including a memo up your chain informing them of your interest in a transfer and push to make sure its done. The other thing you could do is contact the unit your transfering to, and seeing if their orderly knows about your request to transfer and if their paper work is in order, cause during a transfer the "recieving" unit will want their RSM or someone else interview the new transfer.
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Re: Transferring to another unit (RESERVE)
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2005, 09:02:50 »
Id imagine its different from trade to trade, but I just had a buddy get out of a service battalion and head over to my unit.  That being said, it did take him over a year to transfer because his unit wanted to dick him around.

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Re: Transferring to another unit (RESERVE)
« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2005, 17:21:30 »
thanks for the help guys.

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Re: Transferring to another unit (RESERVE)
« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2005, 20:35:21 »
Hello all. I have a question about reservists getting temporarily attached to other reserve units.

I recently got a job a little ways away from where I live, forcing me to move. So now I have a few options wrt reserve trg. I could either go on ED&T, make the trip home for weekend training only (wouldn't be able to make it for wed evenings), or get attached to a unit based in the town to which I'm moving.
First off, is this a valid reason for getting attached to another unit? the only unit local to where I'm moving is an armoured unit, wheras I currently serve in a service batallion as a Veh Tech, and my knowledge of armoured vehs is limited to say the least.
Second, if I do decide to go that route, what is the process for getting attached to another unit? do I just write a memo stating my situation?
Also, if I do get attached, would I still be considered part of my previous unit, and be able to parade with them once in a while?

Any comments appreciated.

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Re: Transferring to another unit (RESERVE)
« Reply #21 on: April 05, 2005, 22:34:11 »
Best to visit the new unit on their parade night (even phone ahead and ask for an interview with the RSM) and see what's available.   Most militia combat arms units have very limited support trade positions and there has to be a position open (known as a line serial) for them to take you.  If they have a position, my experience has been that they will expect you to transfer permanently to their unit.   Attachments in the PRes normally last no longer than one year, so if you're planning on staying with the new job for awhile you'd have to transfer not just be attached.

So, if you get that far, you contact your present unit (the Svc Bn), let them know your wishes through your chain-of-command and they send a request to transfer to another unit through Brigade HQ and Area HQ if necessary to the new unit.  The new unit responds with a position number, the clerks do their thing in PeopleSoft and RPSR, you clear out and clear in!

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Re: Transferring to another unit (RESERVE)
« Reply #22 on: April 05, 2005, 22:42:25 »
In my experience, I'm currently attached out from my unit. I belong to 28 Fd Amb (Ottawa) but live in Northern Ontario and am attached to my unit up here which is a service battalion. All I did was write a memo stating where I would like to be attached and why (because thats where I live/work - in your case) I parade with both units without a problem. It doesn't have to be a huge problem, and just think, you'll be likely the only v-tech, could be pretty sweet. Maybe they'll give you your own armoured MRT.

Although since I am a medic, and the whole CFMG reorganization thing, so maybe medics are different since we all belong to Fd Ambs now.

Well thats my understanding anyway, its not that difficult to do, and there is no minimum/maximum time to be attached. Just keep in touch with your original unit, don't burn any bridges.

Oh hey, I just remembered as well. We had a V-tech in the Svc Bn that moved to a different town (about 300km's away) and he attached to an infantry unit, he parades with both units still whenever he gets a change. He doesn't have to do the "silly bugger" thing if he doesn't want to. He bends wrenches for the infantry guys trucks.

Its all possible, check with your OR, they'll tell you how to do it all exactly.

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Re: Transferring to another unit (RESERVE)
« Reply #23 on: April 06, 2005, 02:59:29 »
Thanks for the replies. I will check with my OR next time I get a chance. The job I got is only for about 16 months, working at DRDC-suffield, so I wouldn't want to permanently transfer to another unit. One issue that might pose a problem is the fact that I am just a pte, ql3 qualified, and such am not allowed to work without any supervision. Also, I'm only drv qualified on MLVW and LSVW, not jeeps or armoured vehs, and I don't think that they would want to spring the cash to train me if I'm only there for a year.

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Re: Transferring to another unit (RESERVE)
« Reply #24 on: April 06, 2005, 08:01:27 »
The unit doesn't normally pay for your training at CFSEME in Borden: this is a nationally funded course and the costs should be absorbed at levels above your unit (except for TD cost). (Unlike LFCA, LFWA does not use the RCVMS course funding system where units "buy" vacancies). If your new host unit (SALH in Medicine Hat-41 CBG),  is unwilling to fund the course because you are only on attachment to them then you might suggest that your home in 31 CBG unit pay by means of a fund transfer from 31 CBG to 41 CBG. This should be relatively simple to arrange, as long as your home unit knows that you are planning to return.

As for the admin side of the transfer: heed the advice of those posters who have told you to follow the admin SOPs laid down. This is particularly important as the current Army Electronic Establishment (AER-replaced ARE) does not provide for CSS positions in an arms unit, so you will have to be assigned a special "Military Manning Overhead" (MMO) position. This will process require the involvement of both Bde and Area staffs or it will get screwed up: I see the results of these f/u's all the time: the individual suffers. Take the time and do it right. Good luck.

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