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I would like to know what to expect with an edmonton posting?

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don't do it!!
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thier coming to take me away ho ho hee hee ha ha
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Never been posted there, just want to see the poll results.
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Re: Best Posting for a new Avn Tech?
« Reply #450 on: June 01, 2016, 16:47:01 »
Ask for whatever you want - don't ask, don't get. That being said, I was under the impression that CH149 maintenance was performed by a civilian contractor. I may be wrong, however, as I have never been part of that community.

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Re: Best Posting for a new Avn Tech?
« Reply #451 on: June 01, 2016, 17:01:23 »
But I also want to work on cormorants...and go east to greenwood or shearwater. Is Gander NFL even an option?

Saw this from 2007,

Chances of going to Gander in AVN are 0. They only have Comorant helicopters and no AVN's work on them, only civilian maintenance, company called IMP.

See also,

Beginning life as an AVN-Tech
http://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,77616.100.html
5 pages.

Aviation Systems Tech (AVN)
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=105673.0

Questions about AVN/AVS Tech 
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=69678.0
3 pages.

etc...

AVN Tech
https://www.google.ca/search?q=site%3Aarmy.ca+AVN&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-CA:IE-Address&ie=&oe=&rlz=1I7GGHP_en-GBCA592&gfe_rd=cr&ei=GU5PV4fAL8GC8Qf4wYPoBQ&gws_rd=ssl
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AVN Course in Borden
« Reply #452 on: July 11, 2016, 22:24:29 »
Hello everyone ,

I had some questions , more like some unknown stuff that I wanted to check !

So I finally got done with all the requirements for all my trades , so I am currently merit listed for AVN / ATIS and ACS Tech ! ( yay me ! )

I was wondering , I did a 2 year stint in the Artillery Reserve , and I wanted to know like the main difference between those airforce trades course compared to my SQ + DP1. 

For example : my SQ + DP1 was only 5 weeks total , when the AVN course is like 14-15 months.  Is it the same type of environment ? like inspection every day ? PT every day ? are we housed in some type of barracks ? or do we have like "private rooms" ? is it possible to get internet , since my girlfriend will be in Quebec ( hopefully we will be able to apply for a PMQ ) ?

Those types of questions ....

Basically if anyone can fill me in what to expect there.  I did some basic courses ( BMQ . SQ . DP1 ) also did some extended courses ( PC Tech , Recce Tech , Driver ) and I also did some small tasking in Kingston and Valcartier with the artillery .... so I saw a lot of different type of places / environment. 

Thanks

P.S. I did a search for AVN Techs , Life in Borden , and Course Life .... nothing really came out of those , but if there is already a forum about it , let me know !
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Re: AVN Course in Borden
« Reply #454 on: July 24, 2016, 12:59:03 »
AVN QL3 course is not 14-15 months. It's about 6 months plus there is a short 3 months course you do before Called Common Core. IT might actually be less than 3 months now. I believe they've cut out at least a week or two from the course. CFSATE has made a lot of improvements, particularly with getting students on course quicker. It's a lot better than it was a year ago where you'd be sitting on PAT for months. Most AVN techs are getting out of Borden in under a year now.

Air force life is a bit more relaxed. Currently there is only 1 inspection a week (when you're on course), and it's a dress inspection in your 3B's. While on course your staff MAY do a random room inspection, but it's easy to pass. As long as your room is neat and tidy and your kit is secured you'll pass. When you're on PAT you have the dress inspection and a bedside inspection at the end of the week. But it's easy to pass. They're really just making sure you're cleaning up after yourself and not trashing the place.

There are shacks. If you're not on course, you'll be in a room with 3 other guys. When you get on your #'s, they move you into different shacks where it's only 2 to a room. They offer more privacy and more storage.

PT is twice a week. When you're on PAT it's everyday.

You can get internet. Only Rogers though, but part of their "military" deal is there's not fixed contract. So you don't have to sign up for a year or anything.

You can apply for a PMQ, but it's doubtful you would get one. They don't like to let students get PMQs unless they are married and/or have a family.

hope this helps :) if you have anymore questions feel free to ask.

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Re: AVN Course in Borden
« Reply #455 on: July 25, 2016, 10:02:26 »
okay I know that on Forces.ca they are talking about "a little over a year" , maybe they changed it since ?

As far as PMQ goes , I got told that if you have to stay in Borden for more than 12 months total you can ask for a PMQ no guarantees to have it but you can still ask for it. I am also Common-Law with my girlfriend I've been told that this is pretty much like Married in the Canadian Forces eyes.

but thanks a lot for the info !

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Re: AVN Course in Borden
« Reply #456 on: July 25, 2016, 16:25:44 »
Could be over a year, but like I said, they've made a lot of improvements with increasing the number of courses they run, as well as increasing the number of students on course. It's not nearly as backlogged as it used to be.

You may be able to get a PMQ if you're common-law, but it will all depend on how long you're going to be in Borden. If it ends up being a long wait between courses, it's possible, but not guaranteed. Also, they wont cover the cost of moving your furniture & effects if you get a PMQ. So just keep that in mind. I'm not 100% sure why this is the case now, as I have known other students who got Q's or moved into apartments in Angus(small town just outside of the base, literally) last year were able to get that taken care of by the military. Could be a cost-saving issue since we're just students and only here for a short time vs members who are posted here for 3+ yrs.


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Re: AVN Course in Borden
« Reply #457 on: July 25, 2016, 16:30:18 »
I dont mind paying and moving on my own , that is something Ive did time and time again , but I guess Ill know more on the 24th when Ill do my paperwork and all the necessary information
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Re: AVN Course in Borden
« Reply #458 on: July 25, 2016, 18:47:12 »
stupid question ....

Is it possible to bring like a FULL Tower PC in the shacks ? Or only a laptop ?

Because if I cant bring a full tower regular computer , I will have to buy a new laptop ! lol
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Re: AVN Course in Borden
« Reply #459 on: July 25, 2016, 19:11:48 »
Define "full". Do you mean a regular tower, or the Monolith from 2001 that my older son built to satisfy his gaming addiction? It uses half of the electricity flowing into the block, strains the airconditioning in the house, and can probably run Skynet.

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Re: AVN Course in Borden
« Reply #460 on: July 25, 2016, 20:39:40 »
lets say a bit of both hahaha ? it is a gaming tower , but not too much , last time I was in shacks it was in Kingston the building behind the admission , and I did bring my computer there , but I was on a tasking not a course , so I don't know if the same rules apply ? the guys that were there on PAT did not have any of there TVs or Computer or anything like that
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Re: AVN Course in Borden
« Reply #461 on: July 25, 2016, 22:27:13 »
Some of the Sigs guys in Kingston have big TVs and gaming towers in the shacks. All depends on course staff though.

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Re: AVN Course in Borden
« Reply #462 on: July 25, 2016, 23:29:34 »
Some of the Sigs guys in Kingston have big TVs and gaming towers in the shacks.
But they tend to be offset by the few Jimmies who have lives and social skills.   :pop:

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Re: AVN Course in Borden
« Reply #463 on: July 26, 2016, 17:08:47 »
Is it possible to bring like a FULL Tower PC in the shacks ? Or only a laptop ?
Yes you can. Lots of guys have full tower PCs plus gaming consoles in their rooms.

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Re: Best Posting for a new Avn Tech?
« Reply #464 on: January 13, 2018, 02:39:51 »
How difficult is it to land at Borden after your QL3's IN Borden for your first unit?
The military isn't really like a James Bond movie where you go for jet training in the morning and then underwater demolitions after lunch.

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Re: Best Posting for a new Avn Tech?
« Reply #465 on: March 15, 2018, 12:59:55 »
How difficult is it to land at Borden after your QL3's IN Borden for your first unit?
I would have to say pretty unlikely. Although 400 Sqn is there; it's mostly a retirement home. CMs prefer to send new techs to units that can foster their experience and start building the rounded tech we need.

Trenton is just up the road a few hours. Good luck on your career.
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Re: Best Posting for a new Avn Tech?
« Reply #466 on: April 10, 2018, 18:06:47 »
Although 400 Sqn is there; it's mostly a retirement home.

I'll disagree with that.

400 Squadron is now 1 Wing's air maintenance squadron, conducting major inspections on 1 Wing Griffons. Dedicated air bases, with more Techs, will see more postings in, of course, but Techs at 400 Squadron will not miss out on experience.