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Re: Fire breaks out on Canadian submarine
« Reply #25 on: October 06, 2004, 11:52:20 »
Thanks YJ appreciate the clarification. :)
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Re: Fire breaks out on Canadian submarine
« Reply #26 on: October 06, 2004, 15:36:39 »
I wonder why the subs came at such a low cost..
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Re: Fire breaks out on Canadian submarine
« Reply #27 on: October 06, 2004, 16:25:28 »
do I detect sarcasm?  :)

they were cheap because the Brits didn't want them anymore, or at least thats my completely uneducated take on it.  They were really new when their MoD decided to go with an all nuclear force. 

My 2 cents, at least.


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Re: Fire breaks out on Canadian submarine
« Reply #28 on: October 06, 2004, 16:29:18 »
do I detect sarcasm?   :)

they were cheap because the Brits didn't want them anymore, or at least thats my completely uneducated take on it.   They were really new when their MoD decided to go with an all nuclear force.  

My 2 cents, at least.

Not to mention the UK wanted access to training areas here in Canada and wanted to see a Commonwealth country have first dibs.
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Re: Fire breaks out on Canadian submarine
« Reply #29 on: October 06, 2004, 17:48:50 »
I was really starting to think today about how absolutely awful it must be out there.

Freezing temps.
No propulsion, hence the ocean of the motion would be awful.
Seasickness in such tiny areas.
Little light.

There's no emoticon for a sick face but this where I'd put that.

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Re: Fire breaks out on Canadian submarine
« Reply #30 on: October 06, 2004, 17:59:32 »
This is embarrasing and a waste of the taxpayers money!!!!!! We should worry about subs after we restructure the Army, Airforce and Navy. Id also like to send my best wishes to the crew

Just for the record I don't understand why you guys jumped on Alex for his comments.

Everyone I know understands the concept of opportunity cost and in this case I would argue
that there are a number of needs that would have been much better filled with a $1billion
capital infusion, than on submarines that are limited in range to patrolling our coastal areas
for rogue fishing boats when the same task could've been much better accomplished with
Patrol Aircraft or UAV's.

Where to start:
Option 1)   Strategic Airlift (C17's)
Option 2)   Strategic Sealift (Simplified San-Antonio Class without VLS)
Option 3)   Artic Patrol Ships (Ice Breakers)
Option 4)   Expanded Combined Arms Training Facility

Bottom Line:    We know we don't have enough money so we better be sure we pick the
right priorities and to me I'd much rather at least have the option of deploying small contingents
to Darfur or Afghanistan or Haiti with our own airlift than in defending our coasts with an asset
that is less efficient than its current alternatives simply because that's what we've done in the
past.

JMHO....

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I was watching the news and it turns out one of the sailors on that sub died. Aparrently the fire was way worse than thought of at first.Id like to send best wishes to the family and my prayers to the other members of the sub
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Re: I have to break some bad news
« Reply #32 on: October 06, 2004, 18:13:54 »
Lt Saunders had a wife and two children.

May he rest in peace.

And let's give a moment to pray for those other seriously injured sailors.  Some of them, apparently, are also in critical condition.
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Re: I have to break some bad news
« Reply #33 on: October 06, 2004, 18:15:41 »
God speed.
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Sad news from HMCS CHICOUTIMI
« Reply #34 on: October 06, 2004, 18:16:03 »
Tragic update to CHICOUTIMI's fire.

The Prime Minister has just announced in the House of Commons that one sailor has died from smoke inhalation. This was the same sailor reported as being in critical condition earlier today.

Thoughts, prayers, and condolences to the family of yet another Canadian hero.

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Re: Fire breaks out on Canadian submarine
« Reply #35 on: October 06, 2004, 18:16:35 »
See the prior discussions on submarine capabilities and you will see why Alex was disagreed with.
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Re: I have to break some bad news
« Reply #36 on: October 06, 2004, 18:19:13 »
Rest in Peace...
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Re: I have to break some bad news
« Reply #37 on: October 06, 2004, 18:23:05 »
Wow.  That is certainly a change of what the offical word was just a day ago.
http://sympaticomsn.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1096991616876_92400816?hub=topstories
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Re: I have to break some bad news
« Reply #38 on: October 06, 2004, 18:26:41 »
One sailor dies from fire injuries
 
Steve MacLeod and Keith Bonnell
Canadian Press and Global Television

October 6, 2004

The Canadian sub HMCS Chicoutimi, shown in a file photo from the early 1990s. (CP)
Lt.-Cdr. Jim Pope, right, exhibits an oxygen generator as Cmdr. Randy Truscott looks on at a nerws conference concerning the fire on HMCS Chicoutimi, in Halifax on Wednesday. (CP/Andrew Vaughan)
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HALIFAX -- One of the crewmembers injured in a fire aboard HMCS Chicoutimi is dead. Prime Minister Martin announced the death in Ottawa today.

Three injured sailors, including one reportedly in critical condition, were arlifted from a heavily damaged Canadian submarine late Wednesday as the rest their crewmates remained adrift off the coast of Ireland for a second night.

The men were declared the most in need of medical attention after a major fire Tuesday left HMCS Chicoutimi dead in the water.

"They were the worst of the casualties," said Richard Buckland, a commander with the British Navy.

Buckland said the navy had planned to take the injured men by helicopter to a hospital in northern Ireland, but the chopper was diverted to a closer hospital in Sligo, in southern Ireland after one of the men's condition worsened.

Officials at Sligo General Hospital said one of the men was listed in critical condition while his two shipmates had been able to walk in, the Associated Press reported from London. No further details were available.

Canadian navy officials in Halifax couldn't confirm the report.

The diesel-electric submarine, one of four used subs recently leased from the Royal Navy, was on its maiden voyage to Canada when the fire broke out.

A British frigate pulled alongside the sub Wednesday and dropped off a doctor and an assistant.

Canadian officials admitted the fire, which is believed to have started between the commanding officer's cabin and an electrical room, was more serious than first thought.

"This was a major fire," Commodore Tyrone Pile told a news conference in Halifax.

"The fire was of sufficient strength that most of the submarine's portable firefighting equipment was used to put it out."

 
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Re: I have to break some bad news
« Reply #39 on: October 06, 2004, 18:32:38 »
RIP...

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Re: I have to break some bad news
« Reply #40 on: October 06, 2004, 18:35:48 »
My heart goes out to his family and the injured sailors

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Re: I have to break some bad news
« Reply #41 on: October 06, 2004, 18:38:32 »
RIP, Mate.   :cdn: :salute:

Best of luck to the crew, we'll see you when you get home.

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Re: I have to break some bad news
« Reply #42 on: October 06, 2004, 18:40:41 »
J#&** f*&^%$# Chr***.    :'(

What a senseless death in an avoidable accident.

Yet another widow.


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Re: I have to break some bad news
« Reply #43 on: October 06, 2004, 18:47:11 »
Yet another widow.

And fatherless children...
This is what it would have looked like had the plane crashed into a school for bunnies.

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Re: I have to break some bad news
« Reply #44 on: October 06, 2004, 18:53:08 »
RIP, Lt. Saunders.

And may God be with his wife and children in their time of need.
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Re: I have to break some bad news
« Reply #45 on: October 06, 2004, 18:58:22 »
Truly Another Tragic, and senseless Death.

Rest in Peace.

My Thoughts and Prayers go out to His Family.
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Re: I have to break some bad news
« Reply #46 on: October 06, 2004, 18:59:01 »
RIP, Lt. Saunders.

And may God be with his wife and children in their time of need.

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Re: I have to break some bad news
« Reply #47 on: October 06, 2004, 19:02:54 »
Our thoughts and prayer go out to his family and ship mates. May they all get home soon :salute: :cdn:

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Re: I have to break some bad news
« Reply #48 on: October 06, 2004, 19:22:44 »
RIP  :salute: :cdn:

My prayers go out to Lt. Saunders' family and fellow crew members.
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Re: I have to break some bad news
« Reply #49 on: October 06, 2004, 19:34:32 »
I'm sitting here in disbelief upon hearing this news.  The press made out at first that this was quite a minor fire.

Ex-dragoon, have you maybe heard anything else about this incident you could fill us in on??
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