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Re: Performance Oriented Electronic Training (POET)
« Reply #25 on: October 03, 2008, 09:57:58 »
Ok, from the CFSCE (Canadian Forces School of Communications and Electronics) Intranet/DIN site for the POET Course:

PO 001 - Perform Electronic Workshop Practices. This PO focuses on connecting electrical wires and cables; installing components on terminal boards; removing components on terminal boards; performing user maintenance on soldering equipment; maintaining a safe working environment; performing user maintenance on personal tools/tool kits, basic workshop tools, and equipment; and operating Personal Computers (PCs) to access publications, manuals, and references.

PO 002 - Verify the Operation of Direct Current (DC) Circuits. This PO focuses on performing user maintenance on multi-meters; analyzing electronic DC components and circuits; and testing electronic DC components and circuits.

PO 003 - Verify the Operation of Alternating Current (AC) Circuits. This PO focuses on performing user maintenance on oscilloscopes and signal generators; analyzing electronic AC components and circuits; and testing electronic AC components and circuits.

PO 004 - Isolate Faults in Electro-Mechanical Devices. This PO focuses on isolating faults on electrical motors; isolating faults in synchro systems; and isolating faults in servo systems.

PO 005 - Verify the Operation of Solid State Devices. This PO focuses on analyzing the following solid state devices: diodes, transistors, U nijunction Transistors (UJTs), thyristors, Field Effect Transistors (FETs), Silicon Controlled Rectifiers (SCRs), transducers, thermistors, photoresistors, Liquid Crystal Displays (LCDs), and photo-transistors; and testing the following solid state devices: diodes, transistors, U nijunction Transistors (UJTs), thyristors, Field Effect Transistors (FETs), Silicon Controlled Rectifiers (SCRs).
 
PO 006 - Isolate Faults in Power Supply Circuits. This PO focuses on analyzing and testing the following power supply circuits: converters, rectifiers, filters, regulators and transformers.

PO 007 - Isolate Faults in Amplifier Circuits. This PO focuses on analyzing and testing multistage amplifiers: common emitter, common collector, and common base; and analyzing and testing amplifier circuits: phase splitters, push pull amplifiers, complementary power amplifiers, Darlington Pairs, FET amplifiers, and Operational Amplifiers (Op Amp).

PO 008 - Isolate Faults in Oscillator Circuits. This PO focuses on performing user maintenance on frequency counters and pulse generators; analyzing and testing oscillators: Series Fed Hartley, Shunt Fed Colpits Fet, Wein-Bridge, Crystal and Voltage Controlled; and analyzing and testing multi-vibrator circuits: bi-stable, mono-stable, astable, Schmitt trigger and 555 timer.

PO 009 - Isolate Faults in Multistage Electronic Circuits. This PO focuses on performing user maintenance on wattmeters; analyzing multistage electronic circuits; and testing multistage electronic circuits.

PO 010 - Isolate Faults in Digital Circuits. This PO focuses on performing user maintenance on logic probes and logic analyzers; analyzing digital gates; analyzing digital circuits; and testing digital circuits.

PO 011 - Isolate Faults in Amplitude Modulation (AM) Circuits. This PO focuses on performing user maintenance on spectrum analyzer and dummy load; analyzing AM, SSB circuits, and transmission medium; and testing AM and SSB circuits.

PO 012 - Isolate Faults in Frequency Modulation (FM) Circuits. This PO focuses on performing user maintenance on deviation meter; analyzing Fm circuits and transmission media; and testing FM circuits.

Length of Course: 119 Training days.

*for the most part, the POs are taught over a 2 week period, 1 subject at a time.

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Re: Performance Oriented Electronic Training (POET)
« Reply #26 on: October 03, 2008, 20:26:50 »
Thank you Eye In The Sky, I think I am more than proficient in all those subjects. But this at least will give me an idea on some things I can read up on if I ever feel the need.

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Re: Performance Oriented Electronic Training (POET)
« Reply #27 on: October 03, 2008, 21:29:25 »
Thank you Eye In The Sky, I think I am more than proficient in all those subjects. But this at least will give me an idea on some things I can read up on if I ever feel the need.

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Re: Performance Oriented Electronic Training (POET)
« Reply #28 on: October 06, 2008, 12:04:15 »
...Have a Greeaat CFSCE Day!!!        8)
That's all I remember these days...luckily I got back into my old trade! 
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Re: Performance Oriented Electronic Training (POET)
« Reply #29 on: October 07, 2008, 06:42:48 »
Don't know what trade of techs you are referring. The techs I know and work with in the EO world use it alot more than you'd think. Mostly Ohms law, and some solid state and digital theory.

Buddha,

POET isn't a trade. It's  Performance Orientated Electronics Training. When they first started it, IIRC, depending on how you did, you were shuffled into one of the (at that time) many C & E Tech trades (Rad Tech, Tel Tech, TE Tech, etc). Now, alot of different trades use it as a stepping stone prior to going on QL3 (ATIS, LCIS, EGS, etc).
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Re: Performance Oriented Electronic Training (POET)
« Reply #30 on: October 13, 2008, 21:57:37 »
Buddha,

POET isn't a trade. It's  Performance Orientated Electronics Training. When they first started it, IIRC, depending on how you did, you were shuffled into one of the (at that time) many C & E Tech trades (Rad Tech, Tel Tech, TE Tech, etc). Now, alot of different trades use it as a stepping stone prior to going on QL3 (ATIS, LCIS, EGS, etc).

Duh. I took it, and the reply was to the other fella who stated that techs who took POET hadn't used it much since they completed the course.
Thank-you Mr non POET taking Rad Op, but you are also incorrect. To my knowledge EGS does not take POET. (EO used to be FCS takes POET)
I took Poet back when tubes was still being taught, when LCIS where actually Radio Techs (not parts changers), the airforce had 4 elelctronics trades (IE, IS, CRS and AWS) and the first trade you joined for FCS (now EO) was ELM.
 I use my poet knowledge in my job daily. Some days I use it more than others.
Thank-you for the input, you can go back to sleep now.
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Re: Performance Oriented Electronic Training (POET)
« Reply #31 on: October 14, 2008, 18:13:02 »
I stand corrected. I miss read your response. The way I read it was that you thought POET was a trade. My mistake.
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Re: Performance Oriented Electronic Training (POET)
« Reply #32 on: October 14, 2008, 19:33:53 »
No worries Dude,
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Re: Performance Oriented Electronic Training (POET)
« Reply #33 on: November 10, 2008, 07:05:31 »
I will be starting my POET course in kingston on nov 27. Just wondering how this course is. I have heard that it is the hardest part of the AVS course. Any input? Also how are they about the rooms, it is pretty good a CFSATE PAT platoon, I have a nice tv and computer. Just wondring if I should bother bringin' them, to kingston? They more picky on the room layouts etc?


Thanks for any info.....


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Re: Performance Oriented Electronic Training (POET)
« Reply #34 on: November 10, 2008, 10:09:38 »
I suggest you search this subject first, there is a ton of info on this site about POET.  I did mine back in 05, incomplete and happy for it!  The rooms are  4 per, bring your own computer and TV, you'll need permission to hook them up but it's pretty quick.  The city of Kingston is great, take time to go exploring and seeing the sights, not just the cuties at Queen's!  POET is the most difficult academic course in the military and you need to have an aptitude for electronics or the brains to learn FAST.  It is a very fast paced course, so be awake and don't show up hungover!  like some dipshit did on my course. 
Hope that helped some.
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Re: Performance Oriented Electronic Training (POET)
« Reply #35 on: November 16, 2008, 22:54:05 »
Hmmmm...I graduate on Thursday Nov 20, hit Borden on Nov 21, think that the course is full up or that I'll be sent to Kingston for POET?

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Re: Performance Oriented Electronic Training (POET)
« Reply #36 on: November 16, 2008, 23:01:41 »
A POET crse starts evey 2 weeks at CFSCE.  You could be waiting a while for your POET, depending on the current backlog of people waiting in PRETC and CFSATE.  Being positive, as AVS you should be at CFSATE PAT platoon vice PRETC.
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Re: Performance Oriented Electronic Training (POET)
« Reply #37 on: November 16, 2008, 23:04:27 »
I may have to take compassionate care leave, my son is having issues so it might take a bit to go home and clear up (he's pooping blood alot). Going to see if I can get a OJT in Greenwood while the problem gets sorted out. Hopefully they can accomodate me.

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Re: Performance Oriented Electronic Training (POET)
« Reply #38 on: February 05, 2009, 18:09:12 »
Hey all,

Been a while since Ive been here but Ive had a few questions floating around.

Im heading to POET on March 5th and Ive been wondering if there is a March Break there. When I was in Greenwood on OJT they told me to burn all my leave because it was useless in Kingston. Any leave for such periods like March Break and Summer Leave were under Special Academic Leave.

Then I heard that March Break is from March 13 to the 22nd or so.

Does Kingston students get a March (Spring) Break or was it all a bunch of phooey?

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Re: Performance Oriented Electronic Training (POET)
« Reply #39 on: February 05, 2009, 18:30:28 »
Seeing some of the administration coming out of CFSCE I wouldn't be surprised but contact CFSCE and make sure you are not bringing a crap load of leave with you with only two months left in the fiscal year.  March break in Ontario is the second week of March.
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Re: Performance Oriented Electronic Training (POET)
« Reply #40 on: February 05, 2009, 18:49:53 »
So students in Kingston doing POET get March Break?

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Re: Performance Oriented Electronic Training (POET)
« Reply #41 on: February 06, 2009, 10:03:49 »
So students in Kingston doing POET get March Break?

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I didn't say that.  Contact CFSCE for the best information.  Did you get joining instructions as it might tell you in there?
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Re: Performance Oriented Electronic Training (POET)
« Reply #42 on: February 06, 2009, 10:12:43 »
Or, if you prefer your information from anonymous posters online, rather than actually contacting the school......

Yes, the Base and Schools do close for March Break. During that time, however, the students continue being employed making toys for the red-suited overlord.

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Re: Performance Oriented Electronic Training (POET)
« Reply #43 on: February 07, 2009, 10:06:34 »
Remember the days when if students didn't have enough leave to cover the school closure period they worked in the kitchen (or elsewhere)?  >:D
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Re: Performance Oriented Electronic Training (POET)
« Reply #44 on: May 23, 2009, 19:11:57 »
Im here in Kingston now taking POET. WoW what a course, fast and intense with all the C.O.C.K. trimmings the army has to offer.

Only advice I have to give is don't join AVS thinking it's a free ride to a spec pay job.

And March Break was awesome!

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Re: Performance Oriented Electronic Training (POET)
« Reply #45 on: May 03, 2010, 17:05:57 »
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Re: Performance Oriented Electronic Training (POET)
« Reply #46 on: May 24, 2010, 01:04:41 »
I'm sure theres several people that have taken POET and could likely answer most of your questions.  Chances are outstanding you're not the first person to ask.  Unless its something weird and personal, in which case - yes, large antique trunks full of bondage gear and pictures of kittens are acceptable as long as they fit under your bed.  Enjoy BMQ.  Out of curiosity, how come you have to do it over again?
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Re: Performance Oriented Electronic Training (POET)
« Reply #47 on: May 24, 2010, 15:44:29 »
Take it from someone who didn't make POET and was able to come back to his original trade...I flubbed out at syncro-servo and then amps in the second round.

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Re: Performance Oriented Electronic Training (POET)
« Reply #48 on: May 24, 2010, 19:23:28 »
Its also constantly changing.  Not sure when you did poet, but its gone over about 3 revamps lately.  Each time shortening, and lessening the load on students (IMO).

Also, Syncro-Servo doesn't even exist anymore according to my 'man on the inside' :)

It's just sort of a generic couple of days of EMD theory.

POET seems to be more of a mixed bag depending on overall atmosphere more than individual aptitude.  While at times there are people who bombed out, the same people would more likely have been "taught" a little more with different instructors at different POs.  I mean, I had a mid to high 90s average the whole time and STILL managed to get on academic mandatory study group occasionally.  Whereas some people flunked, got their 24 hours, then flunked again with little tutorship. 

Also, bag drive DS made it a lot harder for some than others who had relaxed staff.  As with everything though, the 2 former examples of each scenario are happening less and less.  You are more likely to have relaxed staff and intense tutoring than ever.  The trade can't afford to lose you. 
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Re: Performance Oriented Electronic Training (POET)
« Reply #49 on: July 16, 2010, 02:36:50 »
I apologize in advance if this is in location or if it has already been asked.  I did attempt a search for well over an hour, but couldn't get a clear answer.

I was wondering if there is a Graduation Parade or anything of the sort upon completing the POET course?


Thanks.  :nod: