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Re: Return of NDI 75: Veteran Service Card [Merged]
« Reply #100 on: August 24, 2016, 10:40:44 »
Paul (or anybody else): Can you get both? I have my 75,  but should I then also get this CFOne to cover all places that provide military discounts?

I believe they discontinued the NDI75.
The CFOne Card is replacing it.

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Re: Return of NDI 75: Veteran Service Card [Merged]
« Reply #101 on: August 24, 2016, 11:25:53 »
Paul (or anybody else): Can you get both? I have my 75,  but should I then also get this CFOne to cover all places that provide military discounts?

The CAF ceased issuing NDI75's as of 1 Feb 16.  The only method of identifying yourself as a former member/veteran of the CAF these days is to obtain the CFOne Card which will indicate you are a Veteran.   Yes you can have both and the CFOne is widely recognized for obtaining discounts.
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Re: Return of NDI 75: Veteran Service Card [Merged]
« Reply #102 on: August 24, 2016, 11:39:49 »
Adding for reference,

The CAF ceased issuing NDI75's as of 1 Feb 16. 


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Re: Return of NDI 75: Veteran Service Card [Merged]
« Reply #103 on: March 05, 2017, 19:06:08 »
I just heard about a new photo ID being developed for Veterans. It is issued by the government, good for 10 years and will be treated as government ID. Apparently to be released in 2018. 
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Re: Return of NDI 75: Veteran Service Card [Merged]
« Reply #104 on: March 05, 2017, 19:14:58 »
I just heard about a new photo ID being developed for Veterans. It is issued by the government, good for 10 years and will be treated as government ID. Apparently to be released in 2018.

That echoes what we were told about a year ago at a VAC stakeholders summit. No idea why it's taking so long, but they've been very slowly plugging away at it.
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Re: Return of NDI 75: Veteran Service Card [Merged]
« Reply #105 on: March 05, 2017, 19:24:20 »
Whaaaaaaat?  You mean the CF One card isn't fan-fuckng-tastic???  I'm shocked, I tell you, shocked.

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Re: Return of NDI 75: Veteran Service Card [Merged]
« Reply #106 on: March 05, 2017, 19:38:33 »
Whaaaaaaat?  You mean the CF One card isn't fan-fuckng-tastic???  I'm shocked, I tell you, shocked.

The CFOne card was never intended to be anything but a discount / CFMWS access card. The veterans ID has just been extremely slow to roll out. It's VAC assuming a role they never had before.
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Re: Return of NDI 75: Veteran Service Card [Merged]
« Reply #107 on: March 05, 2017, 19:43:10 »
I just heard about a new photo ID being developed for Veterans. It is issued by the government, good for 10 years and will be treated as government ID. Apparently to be released in 2018.

So does that mean you stop being a veteran after 10 years?  >:D
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Re: Return of NDI 75: Veteran Service Card [Merged]
« Reply #108 on: March 05, 2017, 19:49:31 »
So does that mean you stop being a veteran after 10 years?  >:D

No, but it's a great way for VAC to database contact information for retired veterans when they renew their ID, in case VAC has a requirement/mandate to follow up broadly with the Veterans community on some matter. Just a thought.
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Re: Return of NDI 75: Veteran Service Card [Merged]
« Reply #109 on: March 05, 2017, 20:04:48 »
The CFOne card was never intended to be anything but a discount / CFMWS access card. The veterans ID has just been extremely slow to roll out. It's VAC assuming a role they never had before.
Well, I must have been getting the wrong end of the stick, obviously.  There was quite a bit of fuss kicked up here in other threads about the replacement of the NDI 75 card with the One card.  http://navy.ca/forums/index.php/topic,33531.50.html

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Re: Return of NDI 75: Veteran Service Card [Merged]
« Reply #110 on: March 14, 2017, 08:38:24 »
I also heard today they are still issuing NDI 75's as the backlog before Feb 16 is still being resolved.
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Re: Return of NDI 75: Veteran Service Card [Merged]
« Reply #111 on: March 14, 2017, 08:56:39 »
According to the French language text on the back of the CFOne Card, "This card is not a card" ("Cette carte n'est pas une carte").
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Re: Return of NDI 75: Veteran Service Card [Merged]
« Reply #112 on: March 14, 2017, 08:57:27 »
I also heard today they are still issuing NDI 75's as the backlog before Feb 16 is still being resolved.

That is not what I was told when I recently released.

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Re: Return of NDI 75: Veteran Service Card [Merged]
« Reply #113 on: March 14, 2017, 09:02:07 »
That is not what I was told when I recently released.

CANFORGEN 011/16

TRANSITION FROM THE RECORD OF SERVICE (NDI 75) CARD

UNCLASSIFIED

REFS: A. OP ORDER IMPLEMENTATION OF THE NEW CFONE CARD, 23 JUNE 2015
 B. CFAO 15-2
 C. MILITARY HUMAN RESOURCES RECORDS PROCEDURES

1. UNDERSTANDING THE NEED TO FULLY AND PROPERLY RECOGNIZE SERVING AND FORMER MEMBERS OF THE CANADIAN ARMED FORCES (CAF) AND THEIR FAMILIES, THE CAF WILL TRANSITION FROM THE RECORD OF SERVICE CARD (NDI75) TO THE CFONE CARD AS THE RECOGNITION CARD OF CHOICE. AS PART OF THIS TRANSITION, THE CAF WILL CEASE PROCESSING OF THE NDI 75 EFFECTIVE 1 FEBRUARY, 2016

2. THE CFONE CARD WILL BE AVAILABLE TO ALL SERVING AND FORMER MEMBERS OF THE CAF AND THEIR FAMILIES. VETERANS OF THE CAF WILL RECEIVE A SPECIALLY DESIGNED CARD THAT RIGHTFULLY DISTINGUISHES THEM AS A VETERAN OF THE CAF. DETAILS FOR HOW TO OBTAIN A CFONE CARD ARE AVAILABLE THROUGH CFMWS AND AT THE WEBSITE LOCATED AT WWW.CF1FC.CA

3. WHILE THE NDI 75 CARD WILL NO LONGER BE IN PRODUCTION, THE CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE DOCUMENTATION (DND 2279 OR CF 707 AND CF 54) WILL CONTINUE TO BE PROVIDED TO ALL RETIRING AND TRANSITIONING MEMBERS OF THE CAF AS THEY FINALIZE THEIR ADMINISTRATIVE REQUIREMENTS PRIOR TO DEPARTING THE CAF

4. RESPECTIVE URS WILL CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THE DND 2279 AND CF 707 DOCUMENTS FOR MEMBERS WITH LESS THAN 10 YEARS OF SERVICE (YOS) AND DMCA WILL CONTINUE TO PROVIDE CF 54 FOR MEMBERS WITH MORE THAN 10 YOS. FOR MORE DETAILS PLEASE REFER TO COMMANDER MPC WEB PAGE OF THE MILITARY HUMAN RESOURCES RECORDS PROCEDURES PUBLICATION (MHRRP) http://HTTP://UPKPROD.DESC.MIL.CA/HRMSP/ENG/DATA/TOC.HTML

5. REQUESTS FOR INFORMATION REGARDING THE NEW CFONE CARD WILL BE REDIRECTED TO CFMWS WHO WILL PROVIDE MORE DETAILS WITHIN THE COMING WEEKS
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Re: Return of NDI 75: Veteran Service Card [Merged]
« Reply #114 on: March 14, 2017, 09:20:19 »
Well there you go. I released after feb 16. That is why I was not offered one.

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Re: Return of NDI 75: Veteran Service Card [Merged]
« Reply #115 on: March 14, 2017, 09:23:45 »
That is not what I was told when I recently released.

From another site . " I reached our to DMCA 4 and asked if they were still processing the NDI 75. The response is as follows: They are no longer processing applications for the NDI 75. Applications already in progress prior to 1 Feb 16 are still being processed and the back log is slowly being cleared up, they apologize for any confusion wrt the policy.". Folks caught up in the backlog are still receiving NDI 75 Record of Service cards"
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Re: Return of NDI 75: Veteran Service Card [Merged]
« Reply #116 on: March 14, 2017, 09:26:33 »
Well there you go. I released after feb 16. That is why I was not offered one.


Makes sense. VAC is developing an ID for veterans that will be treated as actual government ID, should be ready fairly soon and a good re[placement for the NDI 75.
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Re: Return of NDI 75: Veteran Service Card [Merged]
« Reply #117 on: March 14, 2017, 09:41:17 »

Makes sense. VAC is developing an ID for veterans that will be treated as actual government ID, should be ready fairly soon and a good re[placement for the NDI 75.

so....... new vets ID in 2045 then?
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Re: Return of NDI 75: Veteran Service Card [Merged]
« Reply #118 on: November 08, 2017, 04:04:53 »
Ok, I live in the Land of Smiles and Sum LOL Thailand.  When I was discharged in 2001 they gave me an ID card.  Unfortunately, i lost my wallet and with it my ID card. 

I reported it to the Canadian Embassy CF ATTACHE but they did not care.

Now besides that being the one thing that said I served it was great and acted as a replacement for my passport many times.

I would like to know who I report the loss too and how or if I can get it replaced.

Any advice would be truly appreciated.

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Re: Return of NDI 75: Veteran Service Card [Merged]
« Reply #119 on: November 08, 2017, 04:25:45 »
Beastintheeast,

Sorry to hear you've lost your card. Sadly in 2016, the old cards were replaced with the "CF One" card program.  This new card must be used with a second form of government ID in order to benefit from any potential military discounts. You can apply for this new card through the Canex website.
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Re: Return of NDI 75: Veteran Service Card [Merged]
« Reply #120 on: November 22, 2017, 13:21:33 »
ref: CBC.ca

We've discussed the pros / cons of a veteran's photo ID. Here's the latest push to renew the topic:

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Veteran calls for government ID cards as 'small token' of thanks
Gus Cameron will be in Ottawa to help present ID card petition to Parliament

A Halifax veteran says a little piece of plastic could go a long way in recognizing the contribution made by retired service members to Canada.

Gus Cameron, who spent 26 years in the Royal Canadian Navy, is travelling to Ottawa today to help deliver a petition that calls on the federal government to reinstate photo identification cards for veterans.

He said since the cancellation of the National Defence Identification 75 Record of Service cards in early 2016, veterans don't have any portable proof of their service.

This summer, he created an e-petition to the House of Commons that garnered 1,725 signatures. More than a quarter, 485, came from people living in Nova Scotia.

more at link...
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« Reply #121 on: November 22, 2017, 13:54:53 »
Good on Gus.  He can be most eloquent when he wants to be, I hope he gets some traction.

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Re: Return of NDI 75: Veteran Service Card [Merged]
« Reply #122 on: March 02, 2018, 10:33:25 »
It's a shame that they don't issue the NDI 75 anymore.  I recently lost my wallet, and with it, my NDI 75.  It was an official document and the only tangible proof of service.  I've requested a CF One card only because I need it for luggage fee waivers, but it won't be the same - there's no photo, and it seems to be more of a store loyalty card, than a record of service.   

I see that the government has responded to the petition; apparently VAC, DND and RCMP are working to produce a joint sort of veteran's card.  Time will tell.  Thanks to all who worked to get that petition submitted.
https://petitions.ourcommons.ca/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-1140 

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Re: Return of NDI 75: Veteran Service Card [Merged]
« Reply #123 on: July 01, 2018, 00:06:19 »
I was handing in my military ID card yesterday because I retired. The commissionaire told me that the veteran ID card will start to be issued again in the next couple months because of the uproar about the CFone card.
Does anyone have anything official on this? Sure would be nice to have an official ID card and not a "points card" to show my veteran status.

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Re: Return of NDI 75: Veteran Service Card [Merged]
« Reply #124 on: July 01, 2018, 09:45:18 »
I was handing in my military ID card yesterday because I retired. The commissionaire told me that the veteran ID card will start to be issued again in the next couple months because of the uproar about the CFone card.
Does anyone have anything official on this? Sure would be nice to have an official ID card and not a "points card" to show my veteran status.

I do know that the file has been turned over to DND from veterans affairs. VAC was supposed to be working on a new vet ID but couldn't get their act together. From what I am told a vet ID is coming however do not know the timeline. I wouldn't be surprised the old NDI 75 will start to be issued again.
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