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Re: Chance of Deployment [Merged]
« Reply #175 on: October 06, 2017, 19:52:06 »
Excellent points and info by PC and MM. When I first joined deployments were beyond the pale rare. To a soldier we were raring to go but alas not much was happening, except for the very real threat of the Cold War becoming Hot. After I released from the reg force deployments became the norm. Buddies of mine have been to Iraq, Somalia, Bosnia, Haiti, Afghanistan etc.  Some have been to all of the above.  Going on a deployment is what we train for but if it doesn't happen it doesn't happen.


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Re: Chance of Deployment [Merged]
« Reply #176 on: October 09, 2017, 08:20:25 »
If you want to join a trade that is operationally focused, doesn't involve 'cleaning stuff' most of the time and will almost guarantee deployments, the RCAF may have the trade just for you.

Airborne Electronic Sensor Operator (AES Op)  (Just to note, Aurora crews are rarely, if ever, 20 in total.  That is the max we can fly with total, if we bring Techs, etc along on a trip and they are coming Aurora Air.  10-12 would be more realistic for crew size)

Not counting exercises and training away trips, I've done 7 *named Ops* deployments in the past 35 months after qualifying on the new systems we have.  Some of those trips have been to really nice spots, some to sandy spots.  But if you're looking for involvement in ops, deployments, I can't think of a better trade to recommend.  And there is Specialist pay in our trade and Aircrew Allowance for those in flying positions as well.   :D
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Re: Chance of Deployment [Merged]
« Reply #177 on: October 09, 2017, 08:33:30 »
See if you can join the Irish Army - they deploy all the time and it's part of your contract that you must deploy on at least one or two tours - they go on peacekeeping ops to many horrible places in the world...and don't brag about it.

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Re: Chance of Deployment [Merged]
« Reply #178 on: October 09, 2017, 11:16:38 »
In a similar vein to AESOP, Air Combat Systems Officers (ACSO, formerly Air Navigators) also deploy quite a bit, especially in the Long Range Patrol and Maritime Helicopter environments. 
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Re: Chance of Deployment [Merged]
« Reply #179 on: November 03, 2018, 19:28:38 »
My boyfriend has been in the military for two years now and hasn't yet gotten deployed. He keeps expressing that he is "excited" to get his deployment he has actually used the term excited often and that it would he "good news". I have mixed emotions about this and questions - is this a normal? I am struggling because I am not close with any military members so I don't have anyone to ask or reference. I understand it is important for his career but I don't understand how he can say he is excited or happy about getting deployed for six months to kuwait or somewhere else. Some insight would be appreciated and thoughts and feelings military members had prior to their first deployment to give me some perspective. Its difficult for me to not take it personally so before jumping to that I wanted to get an idea from some of you

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Re: Chance of Deployment [Merged]
« Reply #180 on: November 03, 2018, 19:32:40 »
Hi...I can understand the mixed emotions...how can he be "excited" when it means you'll be apart. 

Compare it to...a new contractor getting his/her first home to build, or a newly trained firefighter who is "excited" when the bell rings for their first real fire.

It's a chance to put the training you have to use "for real", it usually means making some extra money and is usually good for a members career and development.
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Re: Chance of Deployment [Merged]
« Reply #181 on: November 03, 2018, 21:56:08 »
My boyfriend has been in the military for two years now and hasn't yet gotten deployed. He keeps expressing that he is "excited" to get his deployment he has actually used the term excited often and that it would he "good news". I have mixed emotions about this and questions - is this a normal? I am struggling because I am not close with any military members so I don't have anyone to ask or reference. I understand it is important for his career but I don't understand how he can say he is excited or happy about getting deployed for six months to kuwait or somewhere else. Some insight would be appreciated and thoughts and feelings military members had prior to their first deployment to give me some perspective. Its difficult for me to not take it personally so before jumping to that I wanted to get an idea from some of you

Hi Wilkins,

You are not the first or only one to feel this. When I got my first deployment, I was quite excited and my wife was understandably nervous and struggled with my excitement. Eye in the Sky is quite accurate that for the military member - we train and train and develop skills over a period of (usually) years. Depending on the trade or occupation, a deployment may be the first time those skills are put to "use" outside of a training environment.

Others may chime in and are better able to word-smith here but there is also a large cultural emphasis the military puts on deployments - "who you are and where ya been" becomes part of your military identity and those who haven't deployed sometimes feel "less than" even if they haven't deployed through no fault of their own.

In short, it's normal he is excited and it's normal that you aren't! Somewhere, you'll meet in the middle. Once the lead up starts, he (and you) will likely receive resources through the local MFRC which will help you stay in touch with other spouses and families whose members are on similar (if not the same) deployment.
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Re: Chance of Deployment [Merged]
« Reply #182 on: November 04, 2018, 12:57:53 »
Hi...I can understand the mixed emotions...how can he be "excited" when it means you'll be apart. 

Compare it to...a new contractor getting his/her first home to build, or a newly trained firefighter who is "excited" when the bell rings for their first real fire.

It's a chance to put the training you have to use "for real", it usually means making some extra money and is usually good for a members career and development.

I feel I should add he is an MP and only joined the military to get policing experience - he has been conflicted about his career whether he will continue the military route or switch over to civvy policing (which was his original plan). He has talked about the future career wise both military side and civvy side. A lot of what I've been hearing is that deployment is finally the chance to put your trade or what you have been trained to do in action. He is working as an MP shift work for the last year.

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Re: Chance of Deployment [Merged]
« Reply #183 on: November 06, 2018, 08:23:05 »
For many of us in uniform, deployment is the pinnacle of service.  It is interesting, and it's something that you just don't get to do in most jobs.  He's likely been hearing others telling the weird/exciting/funny/sad/tragic stories of their deployments and he wants some vivid experiences of his own.  It really is a chance to do something extraordinary.  It doesn't always work out that way, but it's usually at least interesting.

He's not excited about the prospect of being away from you, he's excited about an opportunity that's not available to all. 

And if it's any comfort, it is my belief that deployments do not damage solid relationships.  They do however, tend to expose issues that have been glossed over until that point.

Cheers,

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