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"Toronto 18" terrorists: Arrest/court/aftermath
« on: June 03, 2006, 01:14:35 »
http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2006/06/02/rcmpraids06022006.html

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National security forces arrest at least 8 in Toronto raids
Last Updated Fri, 02 Jun 2006 21:37:46 EDT
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The RCMP plan to answer more questions on Saturday about a series of raids and arrests in the Toronto area on Friday.

At least eight people were taken into custody on terrorism-related charges, though there is little more information available.

More than 100 officers were involved in the sweep, including members of the Integrated National Security Enforcement Team.

More arrests and more charges are expected overnight.

The RCMP will release more details at a news conference on Saturday.
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Re: National security forces arrest at least 8 in Toronto raids
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2006, 01:19:25 »
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060602/toronto_arrests_060602/20060603?hub=TopStories
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Police arrest terrorist suspects in Toronto
Updated Sat. Jun. 3 2006 12:15 AM ET

CTV.ca News Staff

In a sweeping raid, police arrested about a dozen men in the Toronto area on terrorism-related charges Friday night, the RCMP announced.

Intelligence sources allege the men were part of a terrorist cell, close to carrying out attacks on one or more Canadian targets.

Police seized chemicals used to make explosives and weapons.

"That's the tool of choice for anybody who wants to cause damage," a source who asked not to be named told The Canadian Press.

The suspects are either second-generation Canadians or recently immigrated to Canada with their families.

Sources claimed the men have no connection to al Qaeda, but were allegedly inspired by militant Islamic groups.

The arrests were made in co-operation with the Integrated National Security Enforcement Team, Cpl. Michele Paradis, a spokeswoman for the RCMP said in a release.

The operation involved at least four police forces, CSIS and the RCMP.

Undercover officers made the arrests, which were all carried out in the Greater Toronto Area.

"The investigation is ongoing," Paradis said Friday night.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper was made aware of the raid but did not comment. A spokesperson said Harper did not want to impede the operation as it unfolds.

The arrested suspects were reportedly being held in a police station in Pickering, a northeast suburb of Toronto.

Heavily-armed police officers kept guard outside the building Friday.

According to The Toronto Star, CSIS has monitored the suspects since 2004, while the RCMP began its investigation last year.

Sources discounted earlier reports that the CN Tower and the city's subway system were allegedly potential targets by the group.

More details about the arrests will be released during a Saturday news conference at 10 a.m. ET.

With files from The Canadian Press


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Re: National security forces arrest at least 8 in Toronto raids
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2006, 03:37:55 »
Coincidence, probably, but you never know.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/06/03/nterr03.xml&sSheet=/news/2006/06/03/ixuknews.html
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Police arrest terrorist suspects in Toronto
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2006, 08:46:35 »
Police arrest terrorist suspects in Toronto
 
A police officer stands guard in Pickering, Ont.
 
Law enforcement officers stand outside a police station where suspects were taken into custody on terrorism-related charges Friday night in Toronto.
 
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Updated: Sat. Jun. 3 2006 8:13 AM ET

In a sweeping raid, police arrested about a dozen men in the Toronto area on terrorism-related charges Friday night, the RCMP announced.

Intelligence sources allege the men were part of a terrorist cell, close to carrying out attacks on one or more Canadian targets.

Police seized chemicals used to make explosives and weapons.

"That's the tool of choice for anybody who wants to cause damage," a source who asked not to be named told The Canadian Press.

The suspects are either second-generation Canadians or recently immigrated to Canada with their families.

Sources claimed the men have no connection to al Qaeda, but were allegedly inspired by militant Islamic groups.

The arrests were made in co-operation with the Integrated National Security Enforcement Team, Cpl. Michele Paradis, a spokeswoman for the RCMP said in a release.

The operation involved at least four police forces, CSIS and the RCMP.

Undercover officers made the arrests, which were all carried out in the Greater Toronto Area.

"The investigation is ongoing," Paradis said Friday night.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper was made aware of the raid but did not comment. A spokesperson said Harper did not want to impede the operation as it unfolds.

The arrested suspects were reportedly being held in a police station in Pickering, a northeast suburb of Toronto.

Heavily-armed police officers kept guard outside the building Friday.

According to The Toronto Star, CSIS has monitored the suspects since 2004, while the RCMP began its investigation last year.

Sources discounted earlier reports that the CN Tower and the city's subway system were allegedly potential targets by the group.

More details about the arrests will be released during a Saturday news conference at 10 a.m. ET.

With files from The Canadian Press
 
 
 
 
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Re: National security forces arrest at least 8 in Toronto raids
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2006, 08:55:47 »
All this does is remind of this thread:

http://forums.army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,34449.45.html

More specifically, this debate....

What's my point? It's that Canada isn't going to get attacked by terrorists.

 8)

The slim profile given on the suspects (not affiliated but inspired by Al Qa'ida) definitely fits the "arch-type" given by Marc Sageman in his analysis of "international jihadists".  If true, it just goes to show that Al Qa'ida is indeed no longer an organization by a movement....
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Re: National security forces arrest at least 8 in Toronto raids
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2006, 10:31:06 »
I just heard on the live news broadcast by the RCMP officer that 3 tons of ammonium nitrate fertiliser was found; only 1 ton was used by McVeigh in the Oklahoma attack.  It had the potential to be a devastating attack if it was followed through.

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Re: National security forces arrest at least 8 in Toronto raids
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2006, 10:44:12 »
At the risk of speculating, some blogs have, in the past, talked in some detail about "terror training camp" in Ontario, west of Ottawa....

http://thecanadiansentinel.blogspot.com/2006/02/terror-camp-in-combermere-ontario-and.html
http://dustmybroom.com/?p=3034

Don't know if it's foil hat stuff, though, so usual caveats apply.

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« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2006, 10:59:24 »
http://sympaticomsn.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060603/toronto_arrests_060603

Suspects possessed bomb making materials: RCMP
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Police have arrested 12 men and five young offenders on terrorism-related charges in the Toronto area, the RCMP announced in a press conference Saturday morning.

Police said the suspects possessed massive amounts of fertilizer, often used to make bombs.

The individuals are all residents of Canada, and "for the most part citizens of Canada," said Mike McDonell, assistant commissioner of the RCMP.

The individuals were charged with offences under the Criminal Code of Canada, after police staged a sweeping raid Friday night in the Toronto area.

"The RCMP in cooperation with our partners through out integrated national security enforcement team ... have arrested individuals who were planning to commit a series of terrorist attacks against solely Canadian targets in Southern Ontario," said McDonell.

Charges included participating in or contributing to the activities of a terrorist group, including training or recruiting; the commission of indictable offences, including firearms or explosives, for the benefit of a terrorist group; and providing or making available property for the purposes of terrorism.

Following is a list including the names, ages and addresses of the men who have been arrested and can be named.

Fahim Ahmad, 21, Toronto;
Zakaria Amara, 20, Mississauga, Ont.;
Asad Ansari, 21, Mississauga;
Shareef Abdelhaleen, 30, Mississauga;
Qayyum Abdul Jamal, 43, Mississauga;
Mohammed Dirie, 22, Kingston, Ont.;
Yasim Abdi Mohamed, 24, Kingston;
Jahmaal James, 23, Toronto;
Amin Mohamed Durrani, 19, Toronto;
Steven Vikash Chand alias Abdul Shakur 25, Toronto;
Ahmad Mustafa Ghany, 21, Mississauga;
Saad Khalid, 19, of Eclipse Avenue, Mississauga.
Police said the men were found to be in possession of massive amounts of bomb-making materials.

"This group took steps to acquire components necessary to create an explosive device using ammonium nitrate, which is a commonly used fertilizer," McDonnell said.

"Three tons of ammonium nitrate was ordered by these individuals and delivered to them. It was their intent to use this for a terrorist attack."

By comparison, he said that the Oklahoma City bombing that killed 168 people, was completed with only one ton of ammonium nitrate.

"This group posed a real and serious threat. It had the capacity and intention to carry out these attacks," McDonnell said.

The RCMP would not name any of the suspected targets, but said the Toronto Transit Commission was not seen as a potential target.

The press conference was attended by representatives of the Peel, York, Durham and Toronto police services, as well as the RCMP and CSIS.

Police made the arrests in a sweeping raid in the Toronto area Friday night.

Intelligence sources allege the men were part of a terrorist cell, close to carrying out attacks on one or more Canadian targets.

The suspects are either second-generation Canadians or recently immigrated to Canada with their families.

Sources claimed the men have no connection to al Qaeda, but were allegedly inspired by militant Islamic groups.

The arrests were made in co-operation with the Integrated National Security Enforcement Team, Cpl. Michele Paradis, a spokeswoman for the RCMP said in a release.

The operation involved at least four police forces, CSIS and the RCMP.

Undercover officers made the arrests, which were all carried out in the Greater Toronto Area.

"The investigation is ongoing," Paradis said Friday night.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper was made aware of the raid but did not comment. A spokesperson said Harper did not want to impede the operation as it unfolds.

The arrested suspects were reportedly being held in a police station in Pickering, a northeast suburb of Toronto.

They were scheduled to appear in court Saturday.

Heavily-armed police officers kept guard outside the building Friday.

According to The Toronto Star, CSIS has monitored the suspects since 2004, while the RCMP began its investigation last year.

With files from The Canadian Press


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Re: National security forces arrest at least 8 in Toronto raids
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2006, 12:09:41 »
UK police raids yesterday and now raids in Canada. I wonder if they are related.

Fox article.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,198050,00.html

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Re: National security forces arrest at least 8 in Toronto raids
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2006, 12:13:59 »
UK police raids yesterday and now raids in Canada. I wonder if they are related.

Fox article.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,198050,00.html

There are no such things as coincidences in regards to this type of thing    ;)

Chances are....yes.

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Re: National security forces arrest at least 8 in Toronto raids
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2006, 12:17:44 »
PM's Statement
http://www.pm.gc.ca/eng/media.asp?category=3&id=1191

Prime Minister Stephen Harper issued the following statement in relation to the recent arrests made in Toronto, announced earlier today: 

“This morning, Canadians awoke to the news that our law enforcement and national security agencies have arrested 17 individuals for terrorism related offences.

“These individuals were allegedly intent on committing acts of terrorism against their own country and their own people. 

“As we have said on many occasions, Canada is not immune to the threat of terrorism.  Through the work and cooperation of the RCMP, CSIS, local law enforcement and Toronto’s Integrated National Security Enforcement Team (INSET), acts of violence by extremist groups may have been prevented.

“Today, Canada’s security and intelligence measures worked. Canada’s new Government will pursue its efforts to ensure the national security of all Canadians.”

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Re: National security forces arrest at least 8 in Toronto raids
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2006, 12:45:39 »
Don't know if this means anything, but the list of the accused from cnn.com (available at http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/americas/06/03/canada.names/index.html) lists names and streets and cities (eg: joe blow, whatever street, Anytown, Canada); however, a canada411.com search failed to yield ANY results on these guys.  None of them.  Let's hope that we got them all and that these guys will do some serious time (if convicted, naturally).

So, there I was....

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Re: National security forces arrest at least 8 in Toronto raids
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2006, 13:14:17 »
1.  Perhaps restrictions on explosive material should be put in place.
2.  Hopefully the trial starts and finishes quicker then the Air India debacle.
3.  Perhaps the sheep of Canada will wake up (doubt it though).
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Re: National security forces arrest at least 8 in Toronto raids
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2006, 13:23:26 »
3.Perhaps the sheep of Canada will wake up (doubt it though).
I doubt it as well.  I can't wait to hear how these poor young men were so put off by Canada's restrictive society that they were FORCED into this action, jail isn't the answer, and you and I are to blame (Jack?  You reading this?  Feel free to use this)

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Re: National security forces arrest at least 8 in Toronto raids
« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2006, 16:32:34 »
4. Joy that our security forces have baged some would be terrorists.

That's my camp. Better them than me on the TTC.

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Re: National security forces arrest at least 8 in Toronto raids
« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2006, 18:31:11 »
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1149329598732&call_pageid=968332188492&col=968793972154

The lawyer for some of these yobs, is already beating his chest, and saying that some of these guys, should not be where they are. And saying that their treatment last night was unfair. How on earth would he know that unless he was there with them in Pickering. And what gives about him asking if they were given copies of the Qu'ran last night while in cells???????? Last time I checked the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, it said nothing of the Qu'ran.......geee......do we as westerners get a bible?

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Re: National security forces arrest at least 8 in Toronto raids
« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2006, 18:37:19 »
They just named all of the adults arrested, as well as where they were living in Canada, one in particular was living not a 5 minute walk from me in Toronto. I'm not surprised.
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Re: National security forces arrest at least 8 in Toronto raids
« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2006, 19:03:38 »


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17 Terror Suspects Arrested in Toronto
« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2006, 19:09:15 »
17 Terror Suspects Arrested in Toronto

Seventeen Canadian residents were in custody Saturday on terrorism- related charges, including plots to use explosives in attacks on Canadian soil, authorities said.

The Royal Canadian Mounted Police said they arrested 12 male adults and five youth and foiled plans for terrorist attacks against targets in southern Ontario.

Officials showed evidence of bomb making materials, a computer hard drive, camouflage uniforms and what appears to be a door with bullet holes in it at a news conference Saturday morning.

"This group took steps to acquire three tons of ammonium nitrate and other components necessary to create explosive devices," said assistant Royal Canadian Mounted Police commissioner Mike McDonell said.

McDonell said that is three times the amount used to blow up the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City.

The arrests were made Friday, with some 400 officers involved.

McDonell said the suspects were either citizens or residents of Canada and had trained together.

"The men arrested yesterday are Canadian residents from a variety of backgrounds. For various reasons they appeared to have become adherents of a violent ideology inspired by al-Qaida," said Luc Portelance, the assistant director of operations with CSIS _ Canada's spy agency.

Heavily armed police officers ringed the Durham Regional Police Station in the city of Pickering, just east of Toronto, as the suspects were brought in late Friday night in unmarked cars which were drove into an underground garage.

The Toronto Star reported Saturday that Canadian youths in their teens and 20s, upset at the treatment of Muslims worldwide, were among those arrested.

The newspaper said they had trained at a camp north of Toronto and had plotted to attack CSIS's downtown office near the CN Tower, among other targets.

Melisa Leclerc, a spokeswoman for the federal Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day, had no comment on the arrests.

In March 2004, Ottawa software developer Mohammad Momin Khawaja became the first Canadian charged under the country's Anti-Terrorism Act for alleged activities in Ottawa and London. Khawaja was also named, but not charged, in British for playing a role in a foiled bomb plot. He is being held in an Ottawa detention center, awaiting trial.

The Canadian anti-terrorism law was passed swiftly following the Sept. 11 assaults, particularly after Osama bin-Laden's named Canada one of five so-called Christian nations that should be targeted for acts of terror. The others, reaffirmed in 2004 by his al-Qaida network, were the United States, Britain, Spain and Australian, all of which have been victims of terrorist attacks.

The anti-terrorism law permits the government to brand individuals and organizations as terrorists and gives police the power to make preventive arrests of people suspected of planning a terrorist attack.

Though many view Canada as an unassuming neutral nation that has skirted terrorist attacks, it has suffered its share of aggression, including the 1985 Air India bombing, in which 329 people were killed, most of them Canadian citizens.

Intelligence officials believe at least 50 terror groups now have some presence in the North American nation and have long complained that the country's immigration laws and border security are too weak to weed out potential terrorists.

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Re: 17 Terror Suspects Arrested in Toronto
« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2006, 20:23:08 »


The Toronto Star reported Saturday that Canadian youths in their teens and 20s, upset at the treatment of Muslims worldwide, were among those arrested.

The newspaper said they had trained at a camp north of Toronto and had plotted to attack CSIS's downtown office near the CN Tower, among other targets.



What I fail to understand, is how they could POSSIBLY imagine that blowing things up and killing innocent people is going to gain them ANY sympathy at all!  In what way do they think that is going to improve the way the world views Muslims at this time?   ???
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Re: National security forces arrest at least 8 in Toronto raids
« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2006, 20:33:35 »
Similar to Stockholm syndrome I suspect.
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Re: National security forces arrest at least 8 in Toronto raids
« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2006, 21:01:18 »
They don't want sympathy just want to kill as many non-believers as possible in the name of Allah.

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Re: National security forces arrest at least 8 in Toronto raids
« Reply #22 on: June 03, 2006, 21:51:14 »
As much as this is a big "score one for the good guys" do not underestimate the judicial systems ability to **** this thing up.  You can bet that the youths will not be kept in custody, and will cry undue influence and probably get punted.  It will be interesting to see if our socialist judges can get over themselves long enough to realize the harm that is going to ensue if we don't drop the hammer on these arseholes. 
This is my favorite quote from the various articles:

Alvin Chand, brother of Toronto suspect Steven Vikash Chand, scoffed at the charges outside the courthouse as several officers took up surveillance positions on surrounding rooftops and a helicopter circled.
"He's not a terrorist, come on, he's a Canadian citizen," Chand said of his brother. "The people that were arrested are good people. They go to the mosque. They go to school, go to college."

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/03062006/2/national-terrorism-threat-becomes-reality-canadians-cops-allege-homegrown-plot.html

Yes, certainly no violence around the world has been promoted by Islamic college students.   ::)
No doubt this will all prove to be a Zionist plot against innocent Islamic gardeners everywhere.
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Re: National security forces arrest at least 8 in Toronto raids
« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2006, 21:53:27 »
If you want to see how delusional some people are just click on this link.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/viewpoint/yourspace/CSIS_terrorists.html

You can read letters people sent to the CBC about the comments Jack Hooper made before the Senate defence committee. You can read such gems as:

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What a load of self-serving, fear-mongering rubbish. How many would-be saviours are ensuring their continued employment by inventing bogeymen for us to be afraid of?

— David Cooper

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I dare Hooper to prove his allegations THIS WEEK without trucking out some seedy little delinquents of colour. We've ALWAYS had those around. The only difference was back before "The Great Decider" in the USA started his war of terrorism, the punks were usually white and hung around in gangs.

— M.S.Blanchette | Picton, Ont.

Got enough proof now?  ::)

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Re: National security forces arrest at least 8 in Toronto raids
« Reply #24 on: June 04, 2006, 03:58:22 »
You can't cure a rabid dog can ya's. These 17 pieces of garbage need to be exercised for info, then dissapear forever without a trace. What can you do with maggots like these, let them out on bail? Just wait for the limp dicked Canadian legal system to spit them out under their own recognicence, claiming they are from broken homes, bla bla bla. We have all heard it before.
 
Wait for it.

I won't be suprised.

On a darker side, your government got lucky this time. Next time maybe not.

This latest Cdn incident is not about the CF in Afghanistan, its about the weakest link in a western country. Honestly, I think Canada is piss weak with its migration laws and leaky borders etc. Hey I've got the right to say it, I was born in Saskatoon, spending the fist 35yrs of my life in western Canada.

This is not even a near miss, but what is it going to take for some decent co-operation bi-partisan hand-holding in Ottawa to get hard on anti-terr laws. There is still too many limp wristed lefties out ther to block common sense right wing reality bills and laws. The 'oh we do not wish to offend' police will be out in full drag swishing their arses down the halls of parliament parading in full!

Again, wait for it.

Your opposition and other 'hangers on' are your own country's worst enemies. Remember that the next time these grubs get lucky (and they will).

Sad but true.

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