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Re: Regular Officer Training Plan (ROTP)-RMC [MERGED]
« Reply #4225 on: June 19, 2017, 13:18:47 »
Question regarding ROTP timelines; After the "application date" some transcripts need to be uploaded to the RMC. How long does it normally take to review these transcripts and get first contact? I took a trawl through this thread but most posters aren't specifying if they are ROTP/DEO.

Additionally, since ROTP deadline isn't technically until Jan 31 2018, do applicants have to wait until around then to write their CFAT? Or would I be proceeding with a 'normal' CFAT timeline?

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Re: Regular Officer Training Plan (ROTP)-RMC [MERGED]
« Reply #4226 on: June 19, 2017, 22:06:42 »
Question regarding application process times and ROTP; after sending in my application, I have to send in additional transcripts to be evaluated by RMC. Once my transcripts have been uploaded, how long should I expect to wait before I receive first contact from a recruitment centre (assuming my grade are up to par)?

I trawled through this thread but most posters don't specify if they are ROTP/DEO. Thanks.

Edit; oops, posted this to another thread earlier today but completely forgot I made that post. My bad (would still appreciate feedback though)
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Re: Regular Officer Training Plan (ROTP)-RMC [MERGED]
« Reply #4227 on: June 19, 2017, 22:29:24 »
Question regarding application process times and ROTP; after sending in my application, I have to send in additional transcripts to be evaluated by RMC. Once my transcripts have been uploaded, how long should I expect to wait before I receive first contact from a recruitment centre (assuming my grade are up to par)?

Consider yourself responsible for your own application, a week after sending the transcript, call the RC or visit them in person and ask for an update and to book your CFAT(If RMC applicants do this), if they say its not ready do it again in 2 weeks or so, and do that for every stage of your application. They have alot of files so if you want to keep your process moving along you need to push it a bit where you can.

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Re: Regular Officer Training Plan (ROTP)-RMC [MERGED]
« Reply #4228 on: July 02, 2017, 11:00:26 »
Hello,

I am a recently finished grade 11 Nova Scotia student well interested in the CAF. I have read a ton on this website and it has helped me very much (such as whether to go to RMC or Civie U). I've been to the recruiting office and they said to apply between September to December as the best times. I was wondering if I could start the application process now instead of having to wait until September. I have my transcripts for my grade 10 and 11 years in case I can. So far I have not found any topics on this matter on this website. Has anyone ever applied the summer before the grade 12 year? Feedback would be appreciated.

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Re: Regular Officer Training Plan (ROTP)-RMC [MERGED]
« Reply #4230 on: July 05, 2017, 15:14:03 »
I'm wondering if someone could tell me what the schedule is between first and second year at RMC.  I understand we do BMOQ mod 2, but is there a "holiday" right after exams or is it straight to St. Jean?  Perhaps there is a break after BMOQ Mod 2 before we head back to RMC?  I'm trying to arrange a trip to Vimy with my family so it would help with long range planning to know when I might be able to swing it.

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« Reply #4231 on: August 03, 2017, 14:15:25 »
Great day today! Found out I was selected for Signals officer for the ROTP 2017 selection! Super pumped to attend my local university (U of A) and yet get paid :D

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Re: Regular Officer Training Plan (ROTP)-RMC [MERGED]
« Reply #4232 on: August 03, 2017, 16:03:20 »
I'm wondering if someone could tell me what the schedule is between first and second year at RMC.  I understand we do BMOQ mod 2, but is there a "holiday" right after exams or is it straight to St. Jean?  Perhaps there is a break after BMOQ Mod 2 before we head back to RMC?  I'm trying to arrange a trip to Vimy with my family so it would help with long range planning to know when I might be able to swing it.

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For my summer of first year, I went to BMOQ Mod 2, had a week off had a 5 week SLT course, then had another week off, then in clearance at the school. If you have the appropriate French profile you get leave from the end of BMOQ to the start of the academic year. IF you fail BMOQ or you are hurt/on TCAT, you do a 9 week OJE in Kingston then leave until academic year.

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Re: Regular Officer Training Plan (ROTP)-RMC [MERGED]
« Reply #4233 on: August 03, 2017, 16:09:05 »
I'm wondering if someone could tell me what the schedule is between first and second year at RMC.  I understand we do BMOQ mod 2, but is there a "holiday" right after exams or is it straight to St. Jean?  Perhaps there is a break after BMOQ Mod 2 before we head back to RMC?  I'm trying to arrange a trip to Vimy with my family so it would help with long range planning to know when I might be able to swing it.

Cheers

To build on what JackMerridrew said, there's too many factors to accurately say when Mod 2 of BMOQ will end for you. We're not released for summer training, be it BMOQ, SLT, or any other course, OJE/OJT until mid May. We have one week of trade specific training, and then another two of "marching up and down the square" in preparation for Grad Parade / Sunset after exams. Typically they'd send you to Mod 2 directly after, or within a week or two of this period ending, however I do know others who started approximately a month later due to other circumstances. Probably, the most reliable period that we have off would be reading week in February; I'd say this is the most popular time for OUTCAN travel for us OCdts. The good news is that these dates are usually posted well in advance, you'll just have to find the academic calendar for the year.

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Re: Regular Officer Training Plan (ROTP)-RMC [MERGED]
« Reply #4234 on: August 03, 2017, 19:47:44 »
Hello, I just joined the site and have been searching through it for a couple of hours now and had a few questions about joining a RMC to get a degree in aeronautical engineering and hopefully end up work in the airforce as a pilot.

1: I have asthma but haven't had an attack since I was 4, ever since I rarely like 1 time a year take a puff of my medication as a precaution, it never is that bad. So my question is how big of a problem would this be in my enrollment process. From what I see the best thing to do is to have my doctor clear me of my asthma?
2: I am allergic to animals and have hay fever, would this be a problem?
3: I currently wear contact lenses with a  prescription of -3 and -2.75, if I got laser corrective surgery would that pose a problem.
4: What do they take into account when applying for a pilot academic wise.

I know im just another person hoping to be a pilot in the air force one day but I would appreciate if anyone could answer my questions and give me any advice, thanks :D.

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Re: Regular Officer Training Plan (ROTP)-RMC [MERGED]
« Reply #4235 on: August 03, 2017, 19:55:03 »
1: I have asthma but haven't had an attack since I was 4, ever since I rarely like 1 time a year take a puff of my medication as a

Asthma & the CF (merged thread)
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=1567.350
17 pages.

2: I am allergic to animals and have hay fever, would this be a problem?

Allergies in the CF 
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=12898.75
13 pages.

3: I currently wear contact lenses with a  prescription of -3 and -2.75, if I got laser corrective surgery would that pose a problem.

Vision Questions Megathread, Categories, Problems etc.
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=432.0
31 pages.

All things LASIK surgery (aircrew/other -- merged)
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=12747.0
22 pages.

The CF policy on laser eye surgery for Pilots? Unfair?
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=25631.0
3 pages.

4: What do they take into account when applying for a pilot academic wise.

The "So You Want To Be A Pilot" Merged Thread 
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=12744.0
55 pages.

Forces.ca
Pilot
https://www.canada.ca/en/department-national-defence/services/caf-jobs/career-options/fields-work/air-ship-crew/pilot.html#entry

As always,  Recruiting is your most trusted source of up to date information.
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Re: Regular Officer Training Plan (ROTP)-RMC [MERGED]
« Reply #4236 on: August 03, 2017, 21:18:03 »
Asthma & the CF (merged thread)
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=1567.350
17 pages.

Allergies in the CF 
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=12898.75
13 pages.

Vision Questions Megathread, Categories, Problems etc.
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=432.0
31 pages.

All things LASIK surgery (aircrew/other -- merged)
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=12747.0
22 pages.

The CF policy on laser eye surgery for Pilots? Unfair?
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=25631.0
3 pages.

The "So You Want To Be A Pilot" Merged Thread 
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=12744.0
55 pages.

Forces.ca
Pilot
https://www.canada.ca/en/department-national-defence/services/caf-jobs/career-options/fields-work/air-ship-crew/pilot.html#entry

As always,  Recruiting is your most trusted source of up to date information.

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Re: Regular Officer Training Plan (ROTP)-RMC [MERGED]
« Reply #4238 on: August 08, 2017, 01:20:05 »
Hello everyone,

Background history: I experienced a loss in family that led me to a big spiral, resulting in dropping in my 2nd year of uni.

I wanted to join the military and have taken a year off since dropping out, I've been working and volunteering since. I know now that i want to continue my studies and am determined more than before.

I did alright in first year but the year after was very bad, so my question is: Should i mention that I went to university and that i dropped out (even though this will hinder my ability to get into ROTP) or should I apply with only my highschool grades?

Thanks.

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Re: Regular Officer Training Plan (ROTP)-RMC [MERGED]
« Reply #4239 on: August 08, 2017, 01:37:28 »
Hello everyone,

Background history: I experienced a loss in family that led me to a big spiral, resulting in dropping in my 2nd year of uni.

I wanted to join the military and have taken a year off since dropping out, I've been working and volunteering since. I know now that i want to continue my studies and am determined more than before.

I did alright in first year but the year after was very bad, so my question is: Should i mention that I went to university and that i dropped out (even though this will hinder my ability to get into ROTP) or should I apply with only my highschool grades?

Thanks.

I would recommend full disclosure. If you don't disclose it, and they find out...it will look like you have no integrity. Don't start off your possible career by lying or hiding things from the people offering you said career...doesn't look good..at all.

Edit: Especially if you're trying to get into a position of leadership...
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Re: Regular Officer Training Plan (ROTP)-RMC [MERGED]
« Reply #4240 on: December 18, 2017, 10:16:38 »
Hi, I have dutifully searched this thread and haven't found the answer to this.

My kid is interested in doing an undergraduate degree via the ROTP (3-4 years), followed by law school (3 yrs). I've read the replies about scholarships, etc. He is highly motivated to get the law degree and doesn't want to just wait and hope he gets some kind of extraordinary scholarship (but is an A+ student, so it's not impossible). So his question is this:

Can someone complete an undergraduate degree via the ROTP, take a leave/deferral to complete law school (at his own expense), and THEN begin his required years of service?
Thanks!

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Re: Regular Officer Training Plan (ROTP)-RMC [MERGED]
« Reply #4241 on: December 18, 2017, 10:48:02 »
Hi, I have dutifully searched this thread and haven't found the answer to this.

My kid is interested in doing an undergraduate degree via the ROTP (3-4 years), followed by law school (3 yrs). I've read the replies about scholarships, etc. He is highly motivated to get the law degree and doesn't want to just wait and hope he gets some kind of extraordinary scholarship (but is an A+ student, so it's not impossible). So his question is this:

Can someone complete an undergraduate degree via the ROTP, take a leave/deferral to complete law school (at his own expense), and THEN begin his required years of service?
Thanks!

What you're asking about is Leave Without Pay. The leave manual has some info (http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/caf-community-benefits/leave-policy.page#chap8), but I'll draw your attention to the points to consider:

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8.1.06 Points to Consider
Before recommending or approving any period of LWOP, the following points should be considered:

the reason for the LWOP;
whether the CF can forego the services of the member for the period of LWOP;
whether there are better alternatives to achieve the aim;

the performance and conduct of the member;
whether there will be significant periods during the term of LWOP when the member, upon request, could be returned to duty;
whether the period of LWOP should be counted for promotion purposes with reference to CFAO 11-6, Commissioning and Promotion Policy-Officers-Regular Force or CFAO 49-4, Career Policy Non-Commissioned Members Regular Force;
whether or not the requirements of DAOD 5019-8, Private Debts, should preclude granting LWOP; and
whether or not the member is undergoing a period of obligatory service.

I've bolded a couple for you. There is an option in the CAF to obtain a law degree while serving, called the Military Legal Training Plan. That is going to come up as the better alternative to the CAF to achieve your son's aim. It would also not be automatic that he be accepted into MLTP, and would have to be a top performer in his chosen trade. He's also going to incur more obligatory service as the CAF is paying for his law school, as well as having to extend his terms of service to be able to complete that new obligation.

You've raised a complicated question, but based on my personal experience in the CAF, there's no real incentive for the CAF let your son take 3 years off to get a law degree he's not going to use for up to 5 years while he's in another trade completing obligatory service.

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Re: Regular Officer Training Plan (ROTP)-RMC [MERGED]
« Reply #4242 on: December 18, 2017, 10:50:23 »
Does your son want to become a lawyer?  If so, then there is no direct path through ROTP to become one.  If enrolled in ROTP he would be enrolled in a military occupation, and there is no ROTP entry for lawyers.

Perhaps if you can explain his desired end-state we can provide ideas and suggestions; you've outlined a conceptual process without explaining what he wants to achieve at the end of it.


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Re: Regular Officer Training Plan (ROTP)-RMC [MERGED]
« Reply #4243 on: December 18, 2017, 16:04:37 »
I was with the Legal branch for over twenty years before I retired and no one went through the system the way that you would prefer.

Simply put, the branch gets enough legal officers by virtue of the direct enrollment system meaning that the individual has already completed both his/her undergraduate and legal education at their own expense. This is a low cost system that allows the branch to evaluate lawyers with a proven track record for education and--probably--legal experience.

The concept behind the MLTP is to take officers who have been in other occupations in the military and provide them with a legal education at the crown's cost. The benefit for the branch is that it obtains a legal officer who has had some diverse form of military experience that will enable him/her to have more breadth of knowledge. Again the branch gets to select from people with proven educational and employment experience.

There is no advantage for the branch in funding someone to have both their undergraduate and legal education in the way that you describe. In essence they are hiring a high school student with a need for seven-eight years of post secondary education still to be done.

I strongly suggest that you look at a better Plan B. If he does wish to go to ROTP then he should do it with the expectation that he will serve out his obligatory service in whatever occupation he was recruited into (non-legal) and that his possibility of later being put on an MLTP is an outside chance.

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Re: Regular Officer Training Plan (ROTP)-RMC [MERGED]
« Reply #4244 on: December 21, 2017, 12:27:48 »
Hello everyone. I am new here. I am also new to the program but it is looking promising that i will be accepted into the ROTP program for the following year, according to the recruiters.

Last weekend I had a very unfortunate situation. I was given a ticket for open liquor by a local police officer.

I have an inclination to dispute the ticket in court for two reasons:

1) I did not have open liquor on me. It was a very weird situation. The long and short of it is that there were three of us, two of which had a beer in hand, one (myself) who did not. We were about 5 minutes away from our apartment where we were going to sleep. The two with an open beer were let go but the officer lied and said he saw me throw my beer off the overpass and so arrested me and ticketed me. My friends starred is belief as they were left with their open beer cans and I was hauled away.

2) I am very worried that if I just pay this ticket to make it go away than I am going to jeopardize my ROTP future.

The court date is the 28th of December. I don't want to pay it out of principle but I also just want it to be over with. Spending 6 hours sober in the "drunk tank" was brutal enough. Having a police officer lie to my face and disregard my word was a spit in the face and the $200 ticket sucks this time of year. But my only real concern is the impact any of this could have to my future.

Any advice?


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Re: Regular Officer Training Plan (ROTP)-RMC [MERGED]
« Reply #4245 on: December 23, 2017, 23:39:17 »
I am in the stages of starting my aptitude test and I have run into a huge problem. My test is set for Monday, January 8th, 2018, the same day I go back to high school after my Christmas break. The problem is I need people to sign part of my form as references and I can't get them before the 8th. After reading it I was planning to use my teachers as references but I cant do it because the only time I would be able to see them would be after the break. I emailed my recruiter but stupidly left it at 9:00 pm when they close around 4:00 pm so he won't be able to see it until he comes back on the 8th, the day of my aptitude test. I can't believe I gave myself no time for this, I didn't know about the references. This is my ideal program, something I have been wanting to go do since grade 11 and I can't believe I am about to mess this up. Can anyone reading this give me some help, is there some way I can postpone it last minute? or get only 1 reference? Any insight or possible solutions are much appreciated.

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Re: Regular Officer Training Plan (ROTP)-RMC [MERGED]
« Reply #4246 on: December 24, 2017, 07:48:02 »
Breath, don't panic. 

Arrive on time for your CFAT and bring everything you do have. Before the end of your appointment, you will be reminded what you are missing and what is required before your application will move forward.

This allows you to ask your teacher(s) for a reference, after your CFAT. The only thing is, the longer you wait to bring in ALL the required documents, the longer your application will be delayed.

It was simple and better for you and the recruiter to bring everything in one visit, instead of multiple visits to the CFRC.

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Re: Regular Officer Training Plan (ROTP)-RMC [MERGED]
« Reply #4247 on: January 07, 2018, 13:24:46 »
I have been doing research on the ROTP programme (maybe to be a pilot), and something that i did not understand came up;
the article said you can join the ROTP programme at age 16. that confuses me. can you guys help me out?
what happens if you are accepted?
thanks, happy new year
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Re: Regular Officer Training Plan (ROTP)-RMC [MERGED]
« Reply #4248 on: February 09, 2018, 13:03:30 »
Update that Early Offers for ROTP-RMC started rolling out January 15 or so.
I applied mid Sept. ‘17, and completed the process by mid November. I received and accepted my early offer on Jan. 21 for Aero Eng Officer.
If anyone has any questions on the process and timings, I’ll be happy to answer.

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Re: Regular Officer Training Plan (ROTP)-RMC [MERGED]
« Reply #4249 on: February 10, 2018, 12:10:45 »
I have been doing research on the ROTP programme (maybe to be a pilot), and something that i did not understand came up;
the article said you can join the ROTP programme at age 16. that confuses me. can you guys help me out?
what happens if you are accepted?
thanks, happy new year
You can join the CAF (Reserves) at age 16 with parental consent if you are attending high school full time.
You cannot join under the ROTP entry plan until you are 17 (this is for Quebec residents due to CEGEP; as those students will get 1 year prep at CMR St-Jean).