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Re: Status on Victoria-class Submarines?
« Reply #525 on: January 14, 2019, 15:31:01 »

Those were taken out of service years ago.  Unfortunately.  =(

You mean like the Upholders ;)
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Re: Status on Victoria-class Submarines?
« Reply #526 on: January 14, 2019, 15:42:49 »
It should be recognized that with the very expensive new fighter (and likely some other aircraft types eventually) and CSC procurements no gov't will want to spend money on new subs for a long time to come (if ever); by that time there should be some new models on the market.  In any event no gov't is going to go nuclear-powered.

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Re: Status on Victoria-class Submarines?
« Reply #527 on: January 14, 2019, 16:08:32 »
As i said that have to have balls and fairly large ones at that.........  ;D

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Re: Status on Victoria-class Submarines?
« Reply #528 on: January 14, 2019, 18:25:00 »
If our government had large balls, order 6 French Nuclear attack subs. France does all of the refueling and disposal. Other maintenance is done in Canada. Do not use an ITAR equipment in them if possible. We then told everyone including the US that we are serious about our sovereignty and Canada suddenly becomes a real player on the board. We would need 6 just to keep 2 subs on ops, 2 in training/workup and 2 in overhaul.

Any particular reason you picked French ones over, say, the Astute class or something?
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Re: Status on Victoria-class Submarines?
« Reply #529 on: January 14, 2019, 18:37:29 »
Any particular reason you picked French ones over, say, the Astute class or something?

That(the seemingly French preference),and the thing about "going nuclear"(but could be wrong here. ;)  ) even the Australians don't go "there"(it's because it's very expensive and you"ll need a big budget to do so,and this is where things go "wrong",),besides the political will(of which there's very little)to do so,

Again,my thoughts, are that if(and when)Canada should decide to replace the "Vics",they will probably go the "conventional"route,as will we here in the Netherlands.(along with the Australians),both of these countries are in the proces of replacing their sub fleet,We have to decide what we will be getting(probably the A-26 ER),the Australians will get the Shortfin.(only question is when)

I think (but again,my thoughts)Canada will look towards what Australia(but this option is probably to costly) and the Neteherlands are doing,because(and this is the simple fact of the matter)those are the only "NATO"(Australia isn't,but "NATO and Australia signalled their commitment to strengthening cooperation.) members with conventionals that have "long legs"(and Canada needs and wants the same)
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Re: Status on Victoria-class Submarines?
« Reply #530 on: January 14, 2019, 23:19:43 »
Any particular reason you picked French ones over, say, the Astute class or something?

Less ITAR issues and less chance the US could interfere.

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Re: Status on Victoria-class Submarines?
« Reply #531 on: January 18, 2019, 15:08:47 »
Why not 6 A26's? Have the option of VLS/TLAMs. Seem to be lots of advances in Japan with their batteries too. Tack on 6 orders once Sweden is partly done with building their 2. Build them over their, add a maintenance contract with a Cdn yard.

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Re: Status on Victoria-class Submarines?
« Reply #532 on: January 18, 2019, 21:11:17 »
Do we want true *bluewater* boats, or just littoral/coastal ones more suited for the stuff in close to Canada?  I think that is the first question...what do we want to do with them.  That should help determine #s and class.
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Re: Status on Victoria-class Submarines?
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Refit to put Victoria-class sub at 'cutting edge' of technology

Wells Gaetz, CTV Vancouver Island
Published Monday, January 21, 2019


HMCS Corner Brook, the navy's workhorse submarine, is undergoing a massive retrofit at the Esquimalt Graving Dock. Jan. 21, 2019. (CTV Vancouver Island)

HMCS Corner Brook, a long range hunter-killer Canadian submarine, is in dry dock undergoing a complete overhaul in Esquimalt.

The Victoria-class submarine is halfway through its retrofit, barely recognizable, shrouded in scaffolding and protective wrap.

Once completed, the sub will be outfitted with state-of-the-art technology and will better able to patrol Canadian coastlines.

CTV News was able to get a look at the project Monday, which is halfway to completion.

"Corner Brook will essentially be a brand new submarine," said Cmdr. Mike Mangin. "So this really puts the Victoria-class submarines at the cutting edge of submarine technology."

The upgrades include a new mast system and military satellite communications antenna.

Following the refit, the sub is estimated to be back in service for another 15 years. The work should be complete by early 2020.

https://vancouverisland.ctvnews.ca/hunter-killer-sub-hmcs-corner-brook-undergoes-massive-retrofit-1.4263103
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