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Re: Another ACS Thread
« Reply #25 on: February 06, 2008, 21:27:10 »
And even if you pass Aircrew AND Airnav in Trenton, dont expect to be offered a contract, especially if your ROTP.

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Re: Another ACS Thread
« Reply #26 on: February 06, 2008, 22:11:06 »
Tiger2099, why do you say that?

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Re: Another ACS Thread
« Reply #27 on: February 06, 2008, 23:07:14 »
because i went to aircrew last year passed for pilot AND air nav. Unfortunatly due to the amount of ROTP applicants Im still on the waiting list. I believe the board sat on jan 29th so my recruiter told me that i would probably be selected now since I have done a semester of university with a A average. But yeah, you pass capss, does not mean you get an offer, man people from my group still have not recieved an offer.

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Re: Another ACS Thread
« Reply #28 on: February 06, 2008, 23:27:12 »
Interesting, just goes to show that it's not a done deal with passing ASC and the medicals. From what I've heard, pilot is the most competitive MOC out there. Hopefully with all the procurements and contract getting new tac/strategic airlift A/C and the TV show 'Jetstream" the CF is actually looking for a larger number of  pilots.

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Re: Another ACS Thread
« Reply #29 on: February 06, 2008, 23:32:31 »
Hopefully with all the procurements and contract getting new tac/strategic airlift A/C and the TV show 'Jetstream" the CF is actually looking for a larger number of  pilots.

You are missing part of the problem. We need lots of pilots thats for sure BUT we only have the capacity to train so many at a time. So that limits the number we take in every year. Anf as far as the new aircraft are concerned, its not always a growth in the number of seats available for pilots. Some of those new birds will replace older ones so the net gain is not always what it seems.

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Re: Another ACS Thread
« Reply #30 on: February 06, 2008, 23:43:40 »
You are missing part of the problem. We need lots of pilots thats for sure BUT we only have the capacity to train so many at a time. So that limits the number we take in every year. Anf as far as the new aircraft are concerned, its not always a growth in the number of seats available for pilots. Some of those new birds will replace older ones so the net gain is not always what it seems.

Granted. Not to mention the millions of dollars it cost to train CF pilots so they really have to be selective while staying in the budget. But this belongs in another thread someother day...

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Re: Another ACS Thread
« Reply #31 on: February 06, 2008, 23:44:25 »
The CF is short quite a number of pilots (in the hundreds) - that being said, we are short operational pilots, not student pilots.

The current CAS' direction is that pilot training will be the number one priority of the Airforce, followed by SAR and then operations.  Aurora, Hornet, Hercules <etc> squadron will continue to be undermanned while DMilC fills all training billets. 

I am off to teach at 3 CFFTS next year - I was one of the lucky ones swept up in the training priority message and sent off to teach.
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Re: Another ACS Thread
« Reply #32 on: February 07, 2008, 13:44:26 »
Take a guy from pri 2 SAR to teach (pri 1). I guess there aren't any pri 3 or 4 pilots left? who needs AC's in a SAR sqn anyway.

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Re: Another ACS Thread
« Reply #33 on: February 08, 2008, 15:57:44 »
Does ACS give you like a score that can help or hurt you from getting selected? Or is it just pass or fail like the aptitude test? It would be nice to know that's for sure, somehow I think it'd boost my confidence.
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Re: Another ACS Thread
« Reply #34 on: February 08, 2008, 16:37:18 »
ASC is just a check in the box, you never see your score, it's a simple pass/fail.
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Re: Another ACS Thread
« Reply #35 on: February 08, 2008, 19:34:52 »
I don;t know what it is about ACS?? does it sound better or more integrated in the sequence of letter than ASC?... hm.. just another waisted post by me.  :P

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Re: Another ACS Thread
« Reply #36 on: February 08, 2008, 19:39:48 »
   Ha! The use of the two different terms has bothered me as well. It does make sense I suppose, as ACS would be Air Crew Selection, if you didn't know that Aircrew was one word. It's not a huge deal, except when trying to search for threads. I remember being very confused when I myself was looking for info on ASC.
  It seems so ingrained as to be useless to try to correct...
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Re: Another ACS Thread
« Reply #37 on: February 09, 2008, 18:13:22 »
   except when trying to search for threads. I remember being very confused when I myself was looking for info on ASC.
 

I hear that!

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Re: Another ACS Thread
« Reply #38 on: February 10, 2008, 01:30:12 »
I can't tell you why this bothers me so much, but ASC or ACS - it is amazing how many people feel they have to find the secret to passing the tests on the forum. There are numerous threads that say, "there is no secret to ASC" so why start another? There are many test/evaluations in the CF. Do you have to discuss each one to death before hand to feel comfortable? If so, good luck. Just my $0.02.
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Re: Another ACS Thread
« Reply #39 on: February 10, 2008, 02:49:39 »
       I hear ya MG, although having been through ASC pretty recently (about a year) I gotta say it makes a little sense. The CFAT and medical and stuff, you get another shot at, ASC, if you fail, you need to get your next stage of pilot's license, which can be costly, and therefore impossible for some folk.   
       Now that I'm SLIGHTLY less of a FNG, I know what you mean, although I do still feel the pain of people heading to ASC.
     
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Re: Another ACS Thread
« Reply #40 on: February 10, 2008, 17:34:09 »
MG: As a FNG I certainly feel privileged having access to a network of forum so informative about my future/dream career. The more I can educate myself about the pilot MOC the more I believe I will succeed towards expecting the unexpected. I don’t think that I am the only one who feels this way. For those who have triumphed through the basic application processes it’s easy to condemn the most basic test/evaluations threads on here.

That being said I’m sure most of you in the 32U have meticulously researched ASC before going or at least asked recruiters/pilots at your local CFRC what to expect.

This is why we have forums; no matter how repetitive it gets there will always be other people posting their opinions.
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Re: Another ACS Thread
« Reply #41 on: February 10, 2008, 21:59:01 »
The CF is short quite a number of pilots (in the hundreds) - that being said, we are short operational pilots, not student pilots.


that seems like universal problem.  I am in marine industry and shortage of skilled personnel with high tickets is quite dramatic.  You cannot just take someone from street and make him engineer or captain.

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Re: Another ACS Thread
« Reply #42 on: February 10, 2008, 22:18:31 »
   Ha! The use of the two different terms has bothered me as well. It does make sense I suppose, as ACS would be Air Crew Selection, if you didn't know that Aircrew was one word. It's not a huge deal, except when trying to search for threads. I remember being very confused when I myself was looking for info on ASC.
  It seems so ingrained as to be useless to try to correct...

To add to the mix, ACS is an actual Air Force trade.  AirCraft Structures Technician. (Which, IMHO is the one I would have re-mustered to if I knew what I know now)
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Re: Another ACS Thread
« Reply #43 on: February 10, 2008, 22:29:25 »
To add to the mix, ACS is an actual Air Force trade.  AirCraft Structures Technician.

   Haha oh no, damned acronyms.
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Re: Another ACS Thread
« Reply #44 on: February 19, 2008, 18:47:56 »
I pretty much screwed myself today ... I've gotta learn how to follow directions before I'll amount to anything.
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Re: Another ACS Thread
« Reply #45 on: February 19, 2008, 19:01:27 »
Chill out ballz, the last sim session is weighted the heaviest. Relax and watch the instruments.
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Re: Another ACS Thread
« Reply #46 on: February 19, 2008, 19:14:07 »
If it cheers you up ballz, I heard from a current pilot today that a guy who crashed the CAPSS 7 times passed, and a guy who didn't crash once failed (in his group). It's about your learning curve not how well you fly.

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Re: Another ACS Thread
« Reply #47 on: February 19, 2008, 19:18:51 »
If it cheers you up ballz, I heard from a current pilot today that a guy who crashed the CAPSS 7 times passed, and a guy who didn't crash once failed (in his group). It's about your learning curve not how well you fly.

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Re: Another ACS Thread
« Reply #48 on: February 19, 2008, 21:18:54 »
;D  .....or how well you crash.

haha I can only hope ... I pulled the throttle out instead of pushing it in while trying to do a climbing turn haha ... I was wondering why pulling back on the yoke wasn't doing anything haha
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Re: Another ACS Thread
« Reply #49 on: February 19, 2008, 23:54:04 »
I crashed my level circuit the first time.......went completely off the track lol. They came and reset me and then I was fine. Try not to get wound up if u make mistakes....keeping your cool will go a long way. I used to recite (is that how its spelt?) what the mission listed on the screen so that I knew in order exactly what had to be configured to achieve the given performance criteria.

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