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So how does this work then, will someone promoted from Sgt to WO go down in pay or do they at least get pay protected at Sgt 4 Spec 1?

It looks that way, a pay freeze at whatever Sgt Spec 1 IPC you're at when you get promoted to WO, until you hit an IPC of a rank that would net you a pay raise. Another massive fail from the MES group, that will not be rectified until we get the next restructure done or someone convinces the CDS to generate another order moving CISTM into Spec 1 group (which is highly unlikely to happen as LSTs fall under CISTM and do not get Spec 1).

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No dog in this fight.  But watching you  guys in the RCCS, while at JSR or now from the extreme outside, I find it hard fathom that other branches are still pursuing this method of combining whole branches into one master trade.  Lesson learned don't exist I guess.
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More like, those pushing for changes based for purely ideological reasons, will ignore the realities of other similar efforts, because they believe the flaw was in previous efforts implementers. They will not accept that the ideology was flawed. Especially if their reputation has a stake in it.

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No dog in this fight.  But watching you  guys in the RCCS, while at JSR or now from the extreme outside, I find it hard fathom that other branches are still pursuing this method of combining whole branches into one master trade.  Lesson learned don't exist I guess.

People making the decisions are usually senior MWOs and CWOs who have a pretty good understanding of most of the trades. What they don't really consider is while they may be able to feel they have the knowledge to do the work of most of those trades, they don't really consider that their knowledge comes from 25+ years of experience working side by side those same trades. A new recruit has too much to learn to become effective in all those trades at the beginning of their career. The training required to make them a generalist in all the trades that would previously be separate would be far too long, so they give them a course length of reasonable length. The result is a new tradesperson that doesn't have a functional level of competency in any of the occupations the new trade replaced.

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Not only to does your snr leadership not have the ability to manage this pay fiasco, they don't even seem to understand the basic rank structure of the CAF, unless that is, there are no Warrant Officers (WO, MWO, CWO) or Junior Officers in the Signals world.
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