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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #300 on: August 19, 2017, 16:23:55 »
You'll have opportunities to take specialised courses, go OUTCAN (there's dozens of Cpl-MCpl positions), take language courses, deploy and if you're good enough, to work at some interesting sections. Go to Ottawa if you want the most opportunities as Kingston just won't have as many.

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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #301 on: August 19, 2017, 19:34:36 »
Sweet thanks for the info, just curious as there isnt much information on the trade or how it varies within a given element ; All of the guys in the forces recruiting video appear to be army and I have yet to see anyone with airforce colors in this trade. Would airforce comms guys be most likely posted to leitrim?

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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #302 on: August 19, 2017, 19:49:54 »
Leitrim is the "Home" of the trade.

All DEU (Navy, Army, Air).

Posting, tasks ect... meet the needs if the CAF.
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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #303 on: August 19, 2017, 19:57:26 »
Might also be due to the trade being majority Army DEUs. I think the split is something like 60 20 20, ballpark numbers.

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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #304 on: August 28, 2017, 15:47:46 »
I was told I was slotted for the next DP1 course starting 18th Sept, but have not heard anything.  My BTL coordinator is on leave, so having a hard time getting an answer. 
It's well past the 30 days prior mark, so is it safe to assume I'm not on it?

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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #305 on: August 29, 2017, 10:24:12 »
I was told I was slotted for the next DP1 course starting 18th Sept, but have not heard anything.  My BTL coordinator is on leave, so having a hard time getting an answer. 
It's well past the 30 days prior mark, so is it safe to assume I'm not on it?

Check your private messages, also it will be dependent on your clearance level, if you have the appropriate clearance and requirements to be on the course (BMQ-L) you should be loaded. If you have both you can email the staff at the school and explain that your BTL coordinator is on leave etc etc.
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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #306 on: November 25, 2017, 22:49:31 »
Hi everyone. I'm a PLQ qualified corporal in the Reg Force infantry who got injured on the job. I'm about to be medically COT'd and one of the trades that intrigues me is Comms Research. I also have an interest in a few other trades, but from what info there is to be had on this forum and on the recruiting website, I am strongly thinking of putting it as my number one choice.

Here's what I think I like about the trade:

-- Learning about electronics, computers, and IT systems.
-- Opportunity to learn languages
-- Opportunity to meaningfully contribute (Hours long outer cordons on brigade field ex's and locker security in garrison were hard to take)
-- Data analysis and interpretation (I have the TIOC course and I enjoyed Int data collation; I read a lot in my spare time)

Which trade I choose depends on a few competing factors that I intend to weigh and consider carefully. Things I'm looking at:

-- What skills I can learn, how frequently I can use them in trade, and what qualifications I could take to civvie street.
-- Posting locations. (Preferably someplace in Ontario. In a place whose name doesn't end in __wawa)
-- Relative ease of promotion. I was on the cusp of becoming a Mcpl when I got hurt. I expect to work hard on my way back up, but I'm hoping Mcpl is achievable in approximately 5 years and not 8-10.
-- Opportunity for deployments. I'd like to use my new skills overseas at least once. 

WRT Comms Research I know from reading the threads here that locations are primarily Kingston/Ottawa and getting fully qualified can take quite awhile, mostly due to security clearance (I'm already Secret qualified, and the head of security where I'm currently working just submitted a request to bump me to Top Secret. How's an infantry guy applying for that? Well, TIOC course came in handy for my current position).

So this is what I'm asking: 1. Am I a good fit for this trade? 2. Is my understanding of what this trade offers correct? 3. Can I learn useful things and still get promoted in a timely manner? 4. Are whatever electronic and computer skills relevant to the job transferable to the civilian market?
   
Other trades that I'm considering: Geo Tech, Cyber Operator, ATIS Tech, AVS Tech.

Any and all advice or links or resources are welcome.   Thanks.

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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #307 on: November 25, 2017, 23:09:31 »
Hi everyone. I'm a PLQ qualified corporal in the Reg Force infantry who got injured on the job. I'm about to be medically COT'd and one of the trades that intrigues me is Comms Research. I also have an interest in a few other trades, but from what info there is to be had on this forum and on the recruiting website, I am strongly thinking of putting it as my number one choice.

Here's what I think I like about the trade:

-- Learning about electronics, computers, and IT systems.
-- Opportunity to learn languages
-- Opportunity to meaningfully contribute (Hours long outer cordons on brigade field ex's and locker security in garrison were hard to take)
-- Data analysis and interpretation (I have the TIOC course and I enjoyed Int data collation; I read a lot in my spare time)

Which trade I choose depends on a few competing factors that I intend to weigh and consider carefully. Things I'm looking at:

-- What skills I can learn, how frequently I can use them in trade, and what qualifications I could take to civvie street.
-- Posting locations. (Preferably someplace in Ontario. In a place whose name doesn't end in __wawa)
-- Relative ease of promotion. I was on the cusp of becoming a Mcpl when I got hurt. I expect to work hard on my way back up, but I'm hoping Mcpl is achievable in approximately 5 years and not 8-10.
-- Opportunity for deployments. I'd like to use my new skills overseas at least once. 

WRT Comms Research I know from reading the threads here that locations are primarily Kingston/Ottawa and getting fully qualified can take quite awhile, mostly due to security clearance (I'm already Secret qualified, and the head of security where I'm currently working just submitted a request to bump me to Top Secret. How's an infantry guy applying for that? Well, TIOC course came in handy for my current position).

So this is what I'm asking: 1. Am I a good fit for this trade? 2. Is my understanding of what this trade offers correct? 3. Can I learn useful things and still get promoted in a timely manner? 4. Are whatever electronic and computer skills relevant to the job transferable to the civilian market?
   
Other trades that I'm considering: Geo Tech, Cyber Operator, ATIS Tech, AVS Tech.

Any and all advice or links or resources are welcome.   Thanks.

Regarding your last question, the 'civilian market', a good number of Comms Researchers end up hopping over to Communication Security Establishment and basically still work hand in hand in the same world. I have a couple of friends who have done exactly that. I don't know if there would be much private sector, but public sector demand for those skills seems to be high, and a lot of the jobs are in Ottawa.

There's a lot of good living near CFS Leitrim, whether you're looking for 'suburban neighbourhood' or 'rural residential' living.
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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #308 on: December 01, 2017, 22:11:19 »
Thanks for the response. Living in the south of Ottawa would certainly have its perks. Can you or anyone else tell me about on the job stuff?  Yeah, I know there's a lot of secret stuff that can't be discussed in public, but I'm inquiring more about what kinds of skills are used/a general sense of the routine.

I've recently been talking to some Int ops, ATIS techs, and a couple Geo techs about various things, and when I expressed an interest in Comms Research most of them told me "You don't want to be a rubberhead. It's boring and monotonous, and the guys in that trade have weird personalities."  Now, theres a lot of smack talk and misunderstanding between trades throughout the CF, so I can put some of their perspective down to just not seeing eye-to-eye about things. But I am kind of concerned about the "monotony". All jobs have times where it's a grind, but I'm very much interested in learning skills and using my brain in whichever new trade I end up in and keeping going through the motions to the minimum.

So anyone care to comment on your non-Comms Research colleagues opinion of you? Or give me a sense of what life on the job means without breaking OpSec.     

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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #309 on: December 01, 2017, 22:30:41 »
Both my 9NR and myself have worked with Comm Resch types.

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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #310 on: December 02, 2017, 00:01:21 »
Food for thought.
It depends what you want to do with your life.

Comms research
Pro: it is interesting work.
Con:Leitrim is shift work; and there aren’t a lot of directly related civilian jobs.

I’ve worked with some geo techs. (One of whom OTed from comms research)
Pro: at MCE it is a 7 to 3 job; you get paid to attend Algonquin college in Ottawa and some go for more civilian schooling in Nova Scotia and New Brunswick later in their careers (not sure which schools or when in their careers); and there are many civilian jobs for geotechs.

Con: maybe some people wouldn’t like surveying ?

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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #311 on: December 02, 2017, 10:16:36 »
Not all positions are shift work. Also, wouldn't one con for geo tech would be, first posting mostly likely a brigade.

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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #312 on: January 12, 2018, 10:40:04 »
Hey all, I got put on the competition list for Comm Research just before xmas and hopefully will be picked up this January selection and if not Feb. Question, what sort of deployments could one go on with this trade? I would love to take up a deployment but its not the end of the world if not.

Also, chances of getting to Ottawa after QL3's?

Thanks in advance

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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #313 on: January 12, 2018, 10:48:59 »
Also, chances of getting to Ottawa after QL3's?

Really good.

Deployments are few and far between right now. Don't count on going anywhere unless we stand up a large deployment like Afghanistan, unless you get a ship posting (which are also very limited).

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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #314 on: January 12, 2018, 12:28:11 »
Really good.

Deployments are few and far between right now. Don't count on going anywhere unless we stand up a large deployment like Afghanistan, unless you get a ship posting (which are also very limited).

Ok, thanks. Right on, I am hoping for Ottawa anyway but I do know that is a ways away with the wait for security clearance after BMQ. Unless that wait is not a year or more now.

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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #315 on: January 12, 2018, 14:12:26 »
Ok, thanks. Right on, I am hoping for Ottawa anyway but I do know that is a ways away with the wait for security clearance after BMQ. Unless that wait is not a year or more now.

There is always a long clearance wait for Comms Rsch because of the clearance required to actually do the job. You'll get part of your training done, and then wait on PAT Platoon (or be tasked somewhere) until your higher clearance is approved, then you get put on the next course.

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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #316 on: January 19, 2018, 08:56:47 »
There is always a long clearance wait for Comms Rsch because of the clearance required to actually do the job. You'll get part of your training done, and then wait on PAT Platoon (or be tasked somewhere) until your higher clearance is approved, then you get put on the next course.

Thanks Puck. One more question, for comms when is one typically granted to go for QL5's? Two years after 3's?

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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #317 on: January 19, 2018, 09:45:32 »
Typically within one year

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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #318 on: January 19, 2018, 13:52:24 »
Thank you, that is much quicker then I thought.
One more question, due to there being no officer trade for comms is there a greater need for SR NCM's and faster promotions then the usual? or do they just take direction from another branch? If a pm is required to answer feel free. Thanks again in advance.

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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #319 on: January 19, 2018, 15:43:49 »
Signal Officers and some CELE are responsible for leading Comm Rsch troops. Promotions are no more faster than any other trade.

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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #320 on: January 31, 2018, 13:00:27 »
Not all positions are shift work. Also, wouldn't one con for geo tech would be, first posting mostly likely a brigade.
Are there any positions at the NDHQ?
Recruiting Centre: Hamilton
Regular/Reserve: Regular
Officer/NCM: NCM
Trade Choice 1: Communicator Research Operator
Applied: June 12th, 2016
First Contact: June 15th, 2016
CFAT: July 8th, 2016 [PASSED]
Medical: July 27th, 2016 [PASSED]
Interview: July 27th, 2016 [PASSED]
Merit List: n/a
Position Offered: February 14th, 2017
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BMQ: March 27th, 2017

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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #321 on: January 31, 2018, 21:11:16 »
Are there any positions at the NDHQ?

I’m off to basic March 5th for comms, I noticed your timeline. My question to you is how long did it take you for security clearance?

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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #322 on: February 01, 2018, 23:06:15 »
I’m off to basic March 5th for comms, I noticed your timeline. My question to you is how long did it take you for security clearance?
Still waiting...  ;D that cuz I had to do it all over again, something came up.

Recruiting Centre: Hamilton
Regular/Reserve: Regular
Officer/NCM: NCM
Trade Choice 1: Communicator Research Operator
Applied: June 12th, 2016
First Contact: June 15th, 2016
CFAT: July 8th, 2016 [PASSED]
Medical: July 27th, 2016 [PASSED]
Interview: July 27th, 2016 [PASSED]
Merit List: n/a
Position Offered: February 14th, 2017
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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #323 on: February 02, 2018, 11:31:27 »
Still waiting...  ;D that cuz I had to do it all over again, something came up.

oh dang that sucks. So your on PAT somewhere? I figured hopefully within the first year after basic but i see that might not be the case.

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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #324 on: February 02, 2018, 12:26:02 »
oh dang that sucks. So your on PAT somewhere? I figured hopefully within the first year after basic but i see that might not be the case.
Yep, I'm on a tasking tho, so it's not like I'm in a classroom doing nothing right now. But if the military wants me to get paid just to sit in a classroom, I'll do it, I don't care really.

Make sure you have a precise list of your employment and address history. Even if you only had a few days of unemployment or lived there for a few days, they need to know. Also, you don't have to put your previous work's manager or owner as a contact in your employment history. I had put the manager as the contact for that factory I used to work 10 years ago and he didn't know about me offhand and he doesn't have any list of labourers who used to work there. You can put co-workers - thank god I have them on my Facebook - cuz they only want someone who can verify your employment. If you work in a place through a temp agency, put the recruiter's number not someone from the company. Also, as for references, make sure you pick those people who are easy to get hold of. I had put a Member of Parliament, Broadway actor, and nobody picked up when guys from Ottawa called.

So yeah, I had to those all over again. Make sure you have precise list especially if you're someone who had various odd jobs along the way. Uni/College res are considered as your address too, even CFLRS!
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Recruiting Centre: Hamilton
Regular/Reserve: Regular
Officer/NCM: NCM
Trade Choice 1: Communicator Research Operator
Applied: June 12th, 2016
First Contact: June 15th, 2016
CFAT: July 8th, 2016 [PASSED]
Medical: July 27th, 2016 [PASSED]
Interview: July 27th, 2016 [PASSED]
Merit List: n/a
Position Offered: February 14th, 2017
Enrolment/Swearing-In: March 16, 2017
BMQ: March 27th, 2017