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Title: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: Saltyted on March 14, 2013, 05:00:16
I am very interested in joining my local naval reserve unit but have some questions regarding the training. After reading several other posts on here what I have gathered is that the BMQ for navy is the 13 week long BMQ at St. Jean. I have also heard several conflicting points as to how long it is and where it is conducted, some stating St. Jean and others stating Shearwater or Borden aswell as it being from 30 days long, seven weeks long, only on weekends and ten weeks long. If anyone on these forums can enlighten me it would be of great help!

Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: kratz on March 14, 2013, 06:53:01
Ref: http://forums.navy.ca/forums/index.php/topic,107416.msg1176797.html#msg1176797

At the reference above, if you follow the comments at reply # 6 and after, you will have current answers:

Quote
ref: R 051921Z OCT 12 CFFSQ 0084

Last week the message went out that BMQ and NETP for NavRes will be merged into BMNQ with two phases. A DL/DT portion during the school / training year at the NRDs and then an in-house phase at CFFS(Q) Jun-Aug 2013 summer. The pilot course will start in the fall of 2012.

1993-1995 BMQ was at St Jean
1995-2011 BMQ was at NRTD Borden (closed)
2012 BMQ was tested at Shearwater NS
2013 BMQ is planned to be at CFFS(Q)

NavRes BMQ is full-time, 10 weeks long with a requirement to pass the pre-course DL training at the NRDs.
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: Tralax on March 14, 2013, 06:57:53
Someone correct me if I'm wrong here but I think dependant on what trade you go into you may be trained at a local reserve unit or you may still have to go to a occupational specific base to be trained.
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: kratz on March 14, 2013, 07:34:19
Occupational training is conducted at the appropriate school.
ie: Hard Sea trades CFNOS or support trades at CFLTC

Training at the NRDs consists of individual and team refresher training.
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: ZeroDark30 on August 31, 2013, 04:54:55
Someone correct me if I'm wrong here but I think dependant on what trade you go into you may be trained at a local reserve unit or you may still have to go to a occupational specific base to be trained.

I've heard from a recruiter here in BC, that BMQ for navy reserve depends on your trade.
Example- cook for navy reserve the BMQ is done in Borden, Ont.
Bosn or Naval Combat- BMQ is done in St.Jean , Qc.
MARS Officer- BMQ is done in Esquimalt, BC ?

BMQ is 9 weeks for navy reserve (at least by the recruiter)?
On the bords the weeks are different
and online
(http://ca.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130205180726AAX2B4r)

Not sure how accurate this info is because most posts on here give different info.
Then again I guess BMQ times depends which province you live in?
I guess if you live in Ontario or Quebec, BMQ for the reserve is shorter because you live in the province?

maybe I'm just lost in translation.

If anybody would like to shed more light or post any feedback that would be great.
Again i'm just comparing the info relayed to me and the info on the boards here.
I also live in BC (Vancouver Island)

cheers
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: kratz on September 01, 2013, 21:05:18
Reading and Listening comprehension are useful tools, vice selective "hearing" and random questions "to hear one's voice".


As posted, linked and supported earlier through this and other threads:
accurate, current and useful NavRes training standards from BMQ through
trades training, in-unit training and regenerative training have all been Q&A.

When an individual posts:
-  I heard,
- I think,
- Correct me if I am wrong.

You are posting and reposting wrong information. If you are confused, why are you reposting the same bloody question?

Then you get mad for negative MilPoints?
Refer to the start of this post, own your own posts.
Comprehension and assimilating information is key here.

Asking a question that has been answered earns negative points.

If you think some negative cyber points are bullying?
Please invite me to your BMQ course, the day you feel bullied  by your staff.
I don't need TD, it'll be worth the trip.
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: ZeroDark30 on September 02, 2013, 00:42:40
you mad bro?

Thanks for trying to clear things up with my post!


i posted only to clarify the info i got !!! thats why i was posting!!
i already inboxed you about the whole matter!

if you want to go public about it that's your business!

dont get me wrong , i understand where you are coming from, and i did read what everyone posted!  but YOU just decided to TROLL me.

I'm not looking for an apology or anything!
Your approach to the whole situation is childish! you could've easily just posted something constructive!
i never ever stated that my info is correct...its from the words out of the recruiters mouth which is different than what you and everyone else has been posting on here!

stay classy my man!

Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: Bruce Monkhouse on September 02, 2013, 01:05:32
Zerodark30.................stop.
That is all.
Bruce
Staff
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: fruitflavor on September 04, 2013, 10:16:58
Before deciding to pursue ROTP route I visited navy recruiter at HMCS York.
He was very informative and told me that once I've been enrolled then I would start coming to their weekly and once a month weekend regular meeting, where they will start preparing us for BMQ, and get paid for it. He said that the BMQ is full time over the summer and will start end of may and go until late or mid aug, coinciding with university schedule.
For where it is, I honestly don't remember but he said it was on one of the coasts, but think east.
Also for NCM I was told that it would talke about 3 or 4 years of summer to be fully trained.
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: CAF Military Police on May 03, 2014, 13:30:28
Hey everyone,

I am off to Valcartier, Quebec for BMNQ in June. Ive read through the tips for the standard BMQ, however I was wondering If anyone has any BMNQ specific tips I should know before I take off.

Thanks in advance,
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: dangerboy on May 03, 2014, 13:34:51
Hey everyone,

I am off to Valcartier, Quebec for BMNQ in June. Ive read through the tips for the standard BMQ, however I was wondering If anyone has any BMNQ specific tips I should know before I take off.

Thanks in advance,

Have a look at this thread https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=34712.0 (https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=34712.0).  It should answer any questions you have plus those you have not thought of yet.
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: NFLD Sapper on May 03, 2014, 14:59:02
What the heck is BMNQ?
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: AgentSmith on May 03, 2014, 20:53:52
What the heck is BMNQ?

I'm guessing Basic Military Naval (navy?) Qualification?
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: AlphaBravo on May 03, 2014, 21:37:09
Must mean NETP.....

Did a little bit of google searching he did mean BMNQ, the google result came to army.ca (OP use the search feature next time) It's a mix between Basic Training and NETP (according to the site).
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: George Wallace on May 03, 2014, 21:40:56
MP on BMQ and NETP.....???    Odd.
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: AlphaBravo on May 03, 2014, 21:44:20
MP on BMQ and NETP.....???    Odd.
Thought the same thing, but isn't MP a Tri-Force? Or does that just mean they serve all of the forces at one time?
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: CAF Military Police on May 05, 2014, 01:07:40
BMNQ is BMQ and NETP combined. Shortened to 9 weeks in field, and a lot of training at home unit. I take it noone has done it yet? Alright guess ill have to report back on how it went.
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: JesseWZ on May 05, 2014, 02:08:56
MP on BMQ and NETP.....???    Odd.

My sentiments exactly...

A res MP may correct me on this, but I have only ever run into army Res MPs at the res platoons...
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: harryman20 on June 07, 2014, 21:23:14
Hello everyone, BMNQ (Basic Military Naval Qualification), this means that it is strictly just Navy personnel there. There are only Leading Seamen, Master, PO's, Chief's and Officers. The course is strictly Navy. IN the course there is navy specific training, for example, firefighting training on board a ship. They also do not have the rucksack march in the BMNQ.

   
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: garb811 on June 08, 2014, 20:09:56
There are no MP in the Naval Reserve.  What am I missing here...how did MP enter this mix?
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: George Wallace on June 08, 2014, 20:24:53
There are no MP in the Naval Reserve.  What am I missing here...how did MP enter this mix?

When the OP originally posted this question, (s)he was using the screen name of "CAF Military Police".   On 5 May 2014, they changed their name to "CAF Navy RES".
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: garb811 on June 08, 2014, 20:32:57
Thanks for clearing that up.
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: Pres Stoker on June 12, 2014, 23:19:12
See you there! I'm on the same course Mod 009.
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: Newguy1 on August 22, 2014, 21:51:44
Hey, just wondering if anyone knows how the current Navy Reserve training is scheduled? Is BMNQ still 13 weeks in the summer?
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: Coastalchaos on August 24, 2014, 13:44:04
Starts with dl/dt at the home unit followed by 9 weeks at valcartier in the summer.
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: Naval Reservist on February 19, 2015, 21:38:41
 
Guide to BMNQ (Basic Military Naval Qualification)

Good day,

As a recent graduate of BMNQ I thought I would create this guide in an effort to assist those preparing for BMNQ at CFB Valcartier. The reason I feel there is a need to post this because of the huge difference between BMQ and BMNQ.  Without further ado I will get down to it.

DISCLAIMER: Every basic training, platoon, section, ect. has different rules and expectations. I am posting based solely on my experiance of BMNQ and your experiance may be different.

How BMNQ starts:

 
Your first steps of BMNQ are actually at your home unit. You will receive at least 15 days (I believe) or training at your home unit before going to BMNQ. This will include your first aid, as each unit is different I suggest you speak with the person in charge of training you to learn more.
Part of your home unit training will include online learning where you will need to study a variety of educational materials and complete several PC’s and EC’s (Performance checks and Evaluation checks). Once again it is best to speak to your home unit about your online learning.
 
Once you get to CFB Valcartier (Valcatraz) and Camp Vimy:
 
This is where it begins to be very different from BMQ! Your entire basic training will be conducted out of MOB Tents. This means that you will always be sleeping in a tent, on a cot, in a sleeping bag. So I will begin here with tips as per your accommodations:
o   1 shower stall per platoon, 6 shower heads; get comfortable with your platoon
o   Ladies; you will share 1 shower stall between 4 platoons you will less space than the guys
o   3 toilets per platoon; 3 urinals per platoon
o   2 washing machines, 2 drying machines per platoon
o   This is where you will form up everyday
o   You will spend almost your entire first 4 weeks here
o   The classroom is a roofed pavilion with curtains and a projector
o   You will sit on a wooden bench (like a sports bench at a basketball game)
o   You will share a wooden table with 2-3 people
o   Just like BMQ you will have death by PowerPoint here, not to mention those wooden benches will kill your back (PT was a godsend not a punishment)


That’s all I can think of for accommodations so, I will move onto Physical Training (PT):
o   The PT session was very cardiovascular based workouts
o   Expect a lot of running; prepare for about 2-5km runs
o   Circuit Training with body weight
o   Work on your push ups about 25 military style
o   More strength based sessions
o   Work on your squats and arm strength
o   Push ups (buddy push ups, holding push ups, human centipede push ups, ect.)
o   Sit ups (Team sit ups, weighted sit ups, ect.)
o   Planks (Side plank, front plank, ect.)
o   Wall sits (Arms extended, with weapon, singing, ect.)
o   Running
o   Whatever cruel thing they could think of
I can’t go too in depth about the in-class learning but I will touch lightly on topics you will cover:
What most questions are about Infamous INSPECTIONS:

DISCLAIMER: inspections are run by the platoon commander therefore every platoon is different and I am giving these tips based on my experience!
 
o   Threads on uniform (Irish pennants), BURN THEM WITH FIRE
o   Dirt and grass on your cot (underneath sleeping bag and mattress)
o   Do not leave a broom in your personal tent, it goes back to the common tent
o   Do not move during inspection
o   Make sure your buttons are done up on all kit
o   Make sure your pants are bloused properly
o   Dirt on boots is a ***** dust them off with a Swiffer and cloth every morning
o   Starch is both your best friend and worst enemy, use it wisely
o   Make sure everything on your cot is lined up
o   Don’t get inspectors rank wrong
o   Hand broom and dust pan
o   Swiffer duster
o   White kitchen garbage bag to keep dirt off your boots
o   Q-tips for cleaning weapons
o   A hard brush for muddy boots
o   Toothbrush for weapon
o   Toothbrush for boots


The rest I have is just basic tips to use throughout (some may have been taken from another thread):


 
Well that’s all I got for right now, I will add more if I remember any good tips. If you have any questions I didn’t answer here feel free to ask and I will do my best to answer. If you don’t want to post it publically just send me a private message and I will be happy to give you an honest answer.
Side note: I will be gone from Sunday, February 22nd until March 8th.  I will respond to any questions after that!
 
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: AlphaBravo on April 02, 2016, 02:25:53
Just wanted to get a thread going to see whom is doing Basic Military Naval Qualification, in Valcartier, Quebec starting June 20th!

 
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: luttrellfan on April 06, 2016, 10:36:37
It's not for sure yet, but I'm shooting for June 20th. I have to get all my online learning done first and I'm told it takes a long time.
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: AlphaBravo on April 14, 2016, 04:30:02
It's not for sure yet, but I'm shooting for June 20th. I have to get all my online learning done first and I'm told it takes a long time.

Sorry about the late reply, I was given the FOR SURE date, but I need to get all my DL done first, DT is almost complete, I was just able to access DL yesterday, and have been on a mini grind... I hope to get it all done by the middle of May... Still waiting on my Uniform though haha.
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: Murdock on April 14, 2016, 09:54:18
Ideally I would like to make this course as well. However, even if my medical is processed in time, I may not be left with enough time to complete the online courses now?
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: AlphaBravo on April 14, 2016, 19:50:40
Ideally I would like to make this course as well. However, even if my medical is processed in time, I may not be left with enough time to complete the online courses now?

Hate to break it to you, but the likely hood of you getting on course this summer is pretty slim. DL and DT take a decent chunk of time and I am just barely making it.
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: Murdock on April 14, 2016, 20:57:05
That's OK. Thanks for the information, I appreciate it. Best of luck to you and everyone else. :)
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: luttrellfan on April 16, 2016, 13:46:52
Ideally I would like to make this course as well. However, even if my medical is processed in time, I may not be left with enough time to complete the online courses now?

Hopefully you can get in. I spoke to one of the reservists at my unit and she said it took her 2 and a half days to complete her online learning. So, if you can get in, just grind away at it.

Sorry about the late reply, I was given the FOR SURE date, but I need to get all my DL done first, DT is almost complete, I was just able to access DL yesterday, and have been on a mini grind... I hope to get it all done by the middle of May... Still waiting on my Uniform though haha.

No pun intended, but I'm literally in the same boat as you. I just got set up with my DL a day or two ago and I'm thinking of going in to the unit during the week, on my own time, to start and finish it. Also, I don't receive my uniform until Friday.
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: AlphaBravo on April 17, 2016, 04:26:59
Hopefully you can get in. I spoke to one of the reservists at my unit and she said it took her 2 and a half days to complete her online learning. So, if you can get in, just grind away at it.

No pun intended, but I'm literally in the same boat as you. I just got set up with my DL a day or two ago and I'm thinking of going in to the unit during the week, on my own time, to start and finish it. Also, I don't receive my uniform until Friday.

Haha the pun is fantastic, you can do DL at home, that's what I have been doing (up to the point I am stuck at  :-\). I get all my kit on the 26th, so I am super excited for that, but for my DL I cannot even dive into the main module as it is still saying I have to complete my learning contract, which I did at my unit.. I completed all the prerequisites even the learning contract is reading as "successful" but apparently I can't move forward until someone who handles DLN receives the Learning contract from my unit and approves me to continue on. I was hoping to get through a good chunk of it on my days off, but it isn't looking like it will be happening for a little bit.
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: luttrellfan on May 12, 2016, 15:51:51
Haha the pun is fantastic, you can do DL at home, that's what I have been doing (up to the point I am stuck at  :-\). I get all my kit on the 26th, so I am super excited for that, but for my DL I cannot even dive into the main module as it is still saying I have to complete my learning contract, which I did at my unit.. I completed all the prerequisites even the learning contract is reading as "successful" but apparently I can't move forward until someone who handles DLN receives the Learning contract from my unit and approves me to continue on. I was hoping to get through a good chunk of it on my days off, but it isn't looking like it will be happening for a little bit.

Did you finish all of your online learning?
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: AlphaBravo on May 28, 2016, 05:25:16
Did you finish all of your online learning?

Man I really have to stay up to date on this, my Distance Learning is complete besides the tests, which I am doing next Thursday. My DT is almost done, like another two or three training nights, and I "SHOULD" be done. I still need to do my first aid, I was told that I will be likely doing it the 11th and 12th of June, cutting it REALLY REALLY close... But I hope to get it done.
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: AlphaBravo on June 15, 2016, 16:15:40
Well hopefully I don't get in trouble for bumping this, I have received my loading message for BMNQ 20 June, just curious if anyone else will be joining me for 20 June?
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: luttrellfan on June 17, 2016, 17:54:39
My flight leaves on Sunday. I'll be meeting one of my buddies down in Toronto and then were heading to Valcartier. What about you?
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: AlphaBravo on June 17, 2016, 18:24:00
My flight leaves on Sunday. I'll be meeting one of my buddies down in Toronto and then were heading to Valcartier. What about you?

My flight leaves Sunday as well, I leave To Toronto at 0630hrs and arrive in Toronto around 1400hrs, and leave to Quebec at like 1545hrs
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: Eric17 on September 26, 2016, 03:54:29
I applied to the reserves and I have been told bmq will be in Quebec next summer (not in Saint Jean) what are the differences between the reserve bmq and the regular one?
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: Monsoon on September 26, 2016, 05:32:36
I applied to the reserves and I have been told bmq will be in Quebec next summer (not in Saint Jean) what are the differences between the reserve bmq and the regular one?
Bearing in mind that you seem to be talking about NAVRES BMQ (not CA Res): the course is actually called BMNQ and it combines the training syllabuses for two separate Reg F courses into a single course (in the Reg F the courses are BMQ and NETP). The QSP (training deliverables) for BMQ/NETP are the same as for BMNQ, but the delivery time is condensed by delivering more instructional periods per week (longer days and parts of the weekends) and shifting some of the instruction into unit-based distance learning and distance training phases.
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: mariomike on September 26, 2016, 09:29:55
what are the differences between the reserve bmq and the regular one?

For reference, perhaps,

Is the reserve bmq different from the regular force one

will be merged with,

Reserve BMQ vs Reg Force BMQ 
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=114293.0

Reserve BMQ compared to Regular force BMQ 
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=97693.0

As a Naval Reservist, see also,

Naval Reserve BMQ 
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=109833.0

A Guide to BMNQ (Basic Military Naval Qualification)
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=114955.0

Navy Reserve BMNQ 
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=122603.0

(NAVRES) BMNQ
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=122603.0

BMNQ
https://www.google.ca/search?q=site%3Aarmy.ca+navres+bmq&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-CA:IE-Address&ie=&oe=&rlz=1I7GGHP_en-GBCA592&gfe_rd=cr&ei=7BnpV5CsJKOC8QeklYzIDA&gws_rd=ssl#q=site:army.ca+bmnq



Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: Eric17 on September 26, 2016, 20:51:13
Bearing in mind that you seem to be talking about NAVRES BMQ (not CA Res): the course is actually called BMNQ and it combines the training syllabuses for two separate Reg F courses into a single course (in the Reg F the courses are BMQ and NETP). The QSP (training deliverables) for BMQ/NETP are the same as for BMNQ, but the delivery time is condensed by delivering more instructional periods per week (longer days and parts of the weekends) and shifting some of the instruction into unit-based distance learning and distance training phases.

What is Pre course DL training at NRDS
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: kratz on September 26, 2016, 21:10:49
Eric16,

It's great that you are interested in knowing more about your training. The military uses a lot of acronyms and it best to learn to search for answers or ask questions early. 

- The pre-BMNQ DL (Distance Learning) training at your home unit, one of our NRDs (Naval Reserve Divisions).

- As hamiltongs mentioned in reply # 1, the pre-course DL material are subjects you are required to pass at your home unit
in order to be loaded onto your BMNQ next summer. The need for the DL training is to be able to fit both courses he mentioned into the summer training schedule.
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: Eric17 on September 26, 2016, 21:18:53
Eric16,

It's great that you are interested in knowing more about your training. The military uses a lot of acronyms and it best to learn to search for answers or ask questions early. 

- The pre-BMNQ DL (Distance Learning) training at your home unit, one of our NRDs (Naval Reserve Divisions).

- As hamiltongs mentioned in reply # 1, the pre-course DL material are subjects you are required to pass at your home unit
in order to be loaded onto your BMNQ next summer. The need for the DL training is to be able to fit both courses he mentioned into the summer training schedule



Hi, thank you for the answer, I wasn't told by the recruiting center (hmcs discovery) to complete this pre course. What do I need to do in this pre course before I go to Quebec for basic
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: kratz on September 27, 2016, 00:52:54
My first answer is to stop posting here, go to your NRD and attend training.

Instead, if you will allow me to hold your hand...
despite the fact that hamiltongs and mariomike already posted
answers to your question:

The DL includes such topics (example):
- Rank recognition
- Uniform standards (not issued at the NRD)
- OH&S standards
- First Aid

The list is not exact and due to the change to meet the needs of the RCN.
This is an example of what you will be expected to do when you start off.

You will need to pass your DL before being allowed to attend BMNQ.
Don't sweat the small stuff, do your work and you will move along to the next stage.
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: Lumber on September 27, 2016, 09:20:45
Hi, thank you for the answer, I wasn't told by the recruiting center (hmcs discovery) to complete this pre course. What do I need to do in this pre course before I go to Quebec for basic

The DL takes place AT YOUR UNIT, after you've enrolled. So you need to talk to your unit (HMCS DISCOVERY), finish your application, get enrolled, and then they will take care of you. They know they need to get you ready for BMNQ next summer, so their Training Department will have a training plan in place to get your DL completed in time. Don't sweat it.
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: unmaxdemax on May 04, 2017, 21:43:45
Hey guys,

I've just applied in the RCN for reserve - Logistic officer.

I have a job where I am committed every year till mid-july. Other than that, I am pretty flexible. After July 15th, I am fully available till the beginning of september.

While I can do the summer training on may-june-july the first year, I might no be available to skip work before July 15th the next few years - do you see that as a problem ?

thanks for your answers!
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: ModlrMike on May 05, 2017, 02:14:36
Well...

Your first summer will most likely consist of basic training. Given that you're free the first year, that should pose no problem.

Your second and third summers will be taken up with two months (or more) of training each year, usually spanning June and July.

If you can't be free for June and July, you're going to be limited on your ability to take training.
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: unmaxdemax on May 14, 2017, 13:21:57
Hey,

I'm in the process of applying in the Navy Reserve for a NCM trade. The recruiter told me BMQ would be 3 weeks in the summer in Valcartier. I am a bit confused, from what I'm reading on the forum, it seems BMQ is usually 12 weeks ?

Thanks for your help!
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: Monsoon on May 14, 2017, 13:48:36
Hey,

I'm in the process of applying in the Navy Reserve for a NCM trade. The recruiter told me BMQ would be 3 weeks in the summer in Valcartier. I am a bit confused, from what I'm reading on the forum, it seems BMQ is usually 12 weeks ?

Thanks for your help!
The delivery format of NAVRES BMNQ is being changed this year. While the course consists of the same syllabus as before, it will be delivered in three phases: phases one and three will be delivered at the units as DL/DT, and phase two (the field and firefighting/damage control bits) will be done over three weeks at Valcartier. The massive upsurge in recruitment this year has made this necessary due to limited space at the training facilities.
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: unmaxdemax on May 14, 2017, 15:48:44
Thanks for your reply ! May I ask what DL/DT mean ? Also, do you think it is a permanent change or just a temporary change ?

I'm taking my CFAT in two weeks. If i pass, I guess it will be too late for this summer's BMQ and will have to wait another year.
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: Chief Engineer on May 14, 2017, 16:12:37
Thanks for your reply ! May I ask what DL/DT mean ? Also, do you think it is a permanent change or just a temporary change ?

I'm taking my CFAT in two weeks. If i pass, I guess it will be too late for this summer's BMQ and will have to wait another year.

This is the permanent way of conducting basic from now on and still equivalent to whats the regular force gets. 
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: unmaxdemax on May 14, 2017, 17:08:26
Thank you ! 3 week, that's quick. What does DT/DL mean ?
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: Chief Engineer on May 14, 2017, 17:38:14
Thank you ! 3 week, that's quick. What does DT/DL mean ?

DL- Distance learning on a computer on the internet.

DT- Directed training in unit with instructors.
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: RomeoJuliet on May 14, 2017, 17:52:32
Perhaps this is something we should look at for Army PRes BMQ?


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Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: unmaxdemax on May 14, 2017, 21:23:03
Sorry, i am new to this. If i understand well, for a Navy reservist, there are 3 training phases:
- phase 1 : basic military qualification - Navy
- phase 2 : bmqL
- phase 3 : occupational training

Only phase 2 would be trained in Valcartier. Phase 1 and phase 3 on base. Does that mean you have to go away for only one summer?

I thought that originally it would take 3 summers to be trained. Also, phase 2 only takes 3 weeks? If i am enrolled in june, does it mean i would have to wait till next summer for phase 2? The unit i've applied to has a parade night once a week plus training one saturday a month. Does not seem that much to complete all phases.
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: kratz on May 14, 2017, 22:00:51
Sorry, i am new to this. If i understand well, for a Navy reservist, there are 3 training phases:
- phase 1 : BMNQ - Required DL / DT pre-base training at your NRD.
- phase 2 : BMNQ training - on base, in Valcartier.
- phase 3 : BMNQ - Required DL / DT post-base training at your NRD.
You only graduate BMNQ after successfully completing all three phases. Normally, in one summer.
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: kratz on May 14, 2017, 22:18:04
Based on the Op's comments....He needs to engage his NRD CoC and the Canadian Forces Liaison Council (CFLC) (http://strongproudready.ca/missionready/en/canadian-forces-liaison-council/). I have seen employers successfully accommodate sailors due to the ability of all stakeholders willing to work together on leave / training, pay issues.
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: mariomike on May 14, 2017, 22:38:41
I've just applied in the RCN for reserve - Logistic officer.

If it makes any difference to the discussion,

I'm in the process of applying in the Navy Reserve for a NCM trade.
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: unmaxdemax on May 15, 2017, 21:10:40
I did apply online. Chose Logistics Officer at first. Then I picked up NCM trades when visiting the local regiment.
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: Buck_HRA on May 15, 2017, 21:30:55
Just to let you know you can either apply as an officer or an NCM, you cannot apply as both.  Just to manage your expectations...
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: unmaxdemax on May 15, 2017, 21:37:44
Yes, I know. I could pick Logistics Officer but was told there were not too many opportunities, so I chose NCM trades instead.
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: Slo-as-you-can on June 08, 2017, 14:46:59
Sorry if there's a thread for this elsewhere, I haven't been able to find any information on this elsewhere. Happy for a referral though.

I recently enrolled in the naval reserves as a marine technician but I'm a student and all the summer slots for BMQ are full. Consequently, I'll be working on the reserve base for a year before taking BMQ, and two years before taking my occupational training. I'm curious how much this will impact what I'm doing on base. Obviously there will be a lot I simply can't do due to lack of training, but will I be able to start any sort of work as a marine technician in the next two years or will I be doing grunt work for the foreseeable future?
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: Whatami Gettinginto on October 09, 2018, 10:09:18
I am Navy (Reserve)
Same here but barely into BMOQ MOD 2. Bumping this thread as well.
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: ontheedge on October 09, 2018, 11:50:04
Whatami Gettinginto - are you able to give a broad overview of some of the stuff you covered in BMOQ Mod 1?  I understand there's been some changes lately and I'm interesting in what is currently covered.

Also interested in hearing from current freshly minted Logistics officers/sergeants on what their full time or reserve work is like.

TIA
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: Whatami Gettinginto on October 09, 2018, 12:22:12
broad overview of some of the stuff you covered in BMOQ Mod 1?
Wish I could but I'm currently doing MOD 2 before MOD 1. Some NCdts have completed MOD 3 before MODs 2 & 1. MOD 1 is done online.

I am really enjoying the whole thing but eager to get into the LogO specific coursework. That's where I'll excel from previous work experience. Walk before you run though. On that note, sooo much running in PT right now.
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: ontheedge on October 11, 2018, 17:46:21
Wish I could but I'm currently doing MOD 2 before MOD 1. Some NCdts have completed MOD 3 before MODs 2 & 1. MOD 1 is done online.

I am really enjoying the whole thing but eager to get into the LogO specific coursework. That's where I'll excel from previous work experience. Walk before you run though. On that note, sooo much running in PT right now.

Can you share what you are learning about?  are there resources we can read from to prepare for all this stuff?  I have been reading some doctrinal stuff but would love to get samples of what's covered in the Mod courses.
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: Whatami Gettinginto on October 13, 2018, 16:09:28
We don't have a manual. Much of what we are covering with Policies and Procedures is very basic in nature. Really learning all of the NCM and Officer Rank symbols and names would be a good step ahead. Speaking of steps, knowing the basic commands for Drill would be a good idea but don't start actually doing it on your own forming bad habits.

Still early days myself.
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: ontheedge on October 13, 2018, 22:01:50
Wow thank!!  I found this. Crazy... I just thought there was one drill .., Ie. MARCH

www.cmp-cpm.forces.gc.ca/dhh-dhp/pub/ins-201/dhh_manual_drill_cermonial_chap-1.pdf

Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: kratz on October 13, 2018, 22:19:45
Stop stressing yourself out.

Relax and Chill out! (https://navy.ca/forums/index.php?topic=34770.0)

Yes. The drill manual, the JAG site and CAF documents are online.
It's great you are interested enough to search that much, but now you're
going too far, "without context or training".

Read more, ask less.

If you have questions, copy and paste this into Google:
"site:navy.ca QUESTION"
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: ontheedge on October 14, 2018, 12:23:33
I’m not stressing!  I’m kind of pumped actually.
Drills look so cool.
That being said, I may be idealizing. Do soldiers actually like doing drills?  Or is that just weird.
I feel like drills can be quite hypnotic and therapeutic. Kind of like after doing yoga. It’s tough no doubt but you walk away feeling alert and discipline and part of a team.
So... show of hands... how do people feel about doing their drills??
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: mariomike on October 14, 2018, 12:38:33
... how do people feel about doing their drills??

Opinions vary,
https://www.google.com/search?rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-CA%3AIE-Address&rlz=1I7GGHP_en-GBCA592&biw=1280&bih=621&ei=lGLDW73eBMzx5gKjiqT4BQ&q=site%3Aarmy.ca++drill&oq=site%3Aarmy.ca++drill&gs_l=psy-ab.12...0.0..84265...0.0..0.0.0.......0......gws-wiz.YKhQbWOuDZE

Stop stressing yourself out.

Relax and Chill out! (https://navy.ca/forums/index.php?topic=34770.0)

From way back in 2005,

OP: "Stop panicking, do your PT, and THAT'S IT. That's it. It's that friggin' simple! There's no need to read any secret books. There's no requirement to study before you go. Everything you will need to learn will be taught to you"


Read more, ask less.

 :)



Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: ontheedge on October 14, 2018, 18:52:34
Also saw in the regulations that soldiers aren’t allowed doing “drills” for  other foreign armies (makes sense) but also not allow doing drills for domestic “organizations“. Would that include stuff like Freemasons?
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: mariomike on October 14, 2018, 19:36:50
Also saw in the regulations that soldiers aren’t allowed doing “drills” for  other foreign armies (makes sense) but also not allow doing drills for domestic “organizations“. Would that include stuff like Freemasons?

Not that I am aware of. But, you can check here,

Freemasonry 
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=49904.50
10 pages.
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: Blue85 on February 06, 2019, 20:57:47
Thank you, for your post. Very helpful. So is it best to buy Q tips prior to arriving at Basic Military Naval Qualification Training? I assume there might be the opportunity to go out and shop after arriving at training.

Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: Cloud Cover on February 07, 2019, 10:48:11
Not sure where the QTips angle of the thread came from, but there will be a shop for you to purchase personal hygiene items. 
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: Blue85 on February 07, 2019, 15:01:02
Not sure where the QTips angle of the thread came from, but there will be a shop for you to purchase personal hygiene items.

Naval Reservist is a graduate who posted Reply #25 with the heading "Guide to BMNQ (Basic Military Naval Qualification)." In this particular post, he or she advised to have "Q-tips for cleaning weapons"
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: Blue85 on February 07, 2019, 18:50:25
Hi everyone,

I just submitted an application to the Forces earlier this week. Even though I applied for Naval Communicator in the reserves. I am open to the same position in the regular forces. I received an email indicating:

In Phase I, recruits are expected to complete a total of 6 days of training that can be completed from home. During this time, you may also be asked to come into the unit on a Monday or Wednesday evening.

The Phase II portion of the course is run ‘in-house’  at HMCS YORK lasting the equivalent of about 14 full days

The Phase III portion of the course lasts 3 weeks for Non-Commissioned Members (NCMs). It is run out of Camp Vimy at the 2nd Canadian Division Training Division in Quebec. Dates are as follows:

o   BMQ:

     Serial 1: May 22, 2019 – June 11, 2019

OR

      Serial 2: July 4, 2019 – July 24, 2019

OR

      Serial 3: July 31, 2019 – August 20, 2019


I am assuming the training dates above for BMQ are not to be confused with training dates for Naval Communicator training. I'm not sure where the Naval Communicator training will be. If someone knows where and when I might take this specific Naval Communicator training please let me know. 

After watching Truth Duty Valour Episode 403 on YouTube I was under the impression that training would be 14 weeks in Quebec. So when I received the email saying BMQ is 3 weeks, it gave me the idea that boot camp would be more bearable.

If anyone can offer advice/tips knowledge for preparing for the 3 week BMQ training at Camp Vimy please share. What does the training at Camp Vimy include? Do they give an outline on what is taught each week? Should I buy a waterproof notebook? If I want to keep organized with having a binder for each course taught, how many binders will I need?

I have had people try to teach me to swim however I can't seem to swim for the life of me. I have heard of some of swim test with your uniform on at BMQ in Quebec. Not sure what the tests are like at Campy Vimy. Is the swimming something that can hold me back from passing BMQ?

What is life like at Camp Vimy? Any responses and/or up to date links online I can use to help better my understanding would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: kratz on February 07, 2019, 19:23:56
Relax and follow your training from your Divisional System. Both Phase I and II are meant to simply train and build everyone up to pass Phase III.
The length of time away from home to attend basic has been greatly reduced to three weeks, through DL /CBT since TDV was filmed.

Correct, your trades training will occur at NFS(A) or NFS(P), after you have completed BMNQ.
A minor swim portion is part of your follow on training, during NETP and later career refresher courses, but you'll always be wearing PPE, so no worries.
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: PostalClerk on March 08, 2019, 18:25:12
Recruiting Centre: HMCS Victoria then York
Regular/Reserve: Reserve
Officer/NCM: Officer

Trade Choice 1: Naval Warfare Officer
Trade Choice 2: Armour Officer
Trade Choice 3: ---

Application Date: Aug 14 2018
First Contact: Aug 16 2018
FORCE (fitness) Test: Aug 20 2018
CFAT: Sep 13 2018
Interview to send Documents to Ottawa: Nov 7 2018
MOST: Nov 9 2018
File to Ottawa (Security Clearance): Nov 20 2018

I am a dual citizen, have lived in in France for 4 years during the past 10 years (I am not French though), I have relatives outside Canada.

Therefore, I am anticipating a long wait for the Security clearance to come back. The Recruiter said he can't promise anything despite being hopeful to hear from Ottawa by Summer time.
Title: Re: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve
Post by: PostalClerk on August 27, 2019, 17:43:01
Update: Aug 27 2019

Still Operationally fit :)

Recruiting Centre: HMCS Victoria then York
Regular/Reserve: Reserve
Officer/NCM: Officer

Trade Choice 1: Naval Warfare Officer
Trade Choice 2: Armour Officer
Trade Choice 3: ---

Application Date: Aug 14 2018
First Contact: Aug 16 2018
FORCE (fitness) Test 1st time: Aug 20 2018
CFAT: Sep 13 2018
Interview to send Documents to Ottawa: Nov 7 2018
MOST: Nov 9 2018
File to Ottawa (Security Clearance): Nov 20 2018
FORCE (fitness) Test 2nd time: Aug 27 2018

I am a dual citizen, have lived in in France for 4 years during the past 10 years (I am not French though), I have relatives outside Canada.

Therefore, I am anticipating a long wait for the Security clearance to come back. The Recruiter said he can't promise anything despite being hopeful to hear from Ottawa by Summer time.