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Title: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: coyote489 on December 07, 2017, 15:56:07
Thought I would start up a new thread for candidates of the 2017/18 MP intake. This way we can get to know one another and ask tons of questions without bombarding other threads.


Coyote489
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: cfash on December 07, 2017, 15:58:12
Thought I would start up a new thread for candidates of the 2017/18 MP intake. This way we can get to know one another and ask tons of questions without bombarding other threads.


Coyote489
Great idea. Is this for officer or ncm? 

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Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: coyote489 on December 07, 2017, 16:04:13
Ooooh, thanks for reminding me... I'm applying as NCM so I guess we can stick to that, I don't really care but I guess there is a bit of difference between the two
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: coyote489 on December 07, 2017, 16:16:29
So I was told 32 or so positions left for this year (MP NCM) and 73 for next year. So not too bad. Still curious how many people got to the interviews back in October. I'm sure more than 30. Also, apparently they are doing a selection this week so let's keep our fingers crossed and good luck to all who applied.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: garb811 on December 07, 2017, 20:52:32
Great idea. Is this for officer or ncm? 

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Ooooh, thanks for reminding me... I'm applying as NCM so I guess we can stick to that, I don't really care but I guess there is a bit of difference between the two

If I could make a suggestion; given the many commonalities and small numbers of MPO, it probably wouldn't hurt to have a combined thread.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: BeyondTheNow on December 07, 2017, 21:28:24
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Ooooh, thanks for reminding me... I'm applying as NCM so I guess we can stick to that, I don't really care but I guess there is a bit of difference between the two

If I could make a suggestion; given the many commonalities and small numbers of MPO, it probably wouldn't hurt to have a combined thread.

Agreed. There’s no reason to have separate threads for NCM/Officer in this instance. There won’t be enough contributing users and/or specific interest in this thread to warrant it. You guys will likely cross paths in the mess and on weekends and such even if you aren’t loaded on the same course, so it’s still good to get to know each other.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: coyote489 on December 07, 2017, 21:30:56
Roger that,

 I kind of figured It'd be for both officer/NCM. I didn't see why not, so it's settled this thread is for all things MP recruiting. Officer or NCM.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: DMC2012 on December 11, 2017, 23:00:29
Hello all,

First time, long time.

I applied for an NCM MP position in August,2016 and I have successfully completed my medical and interview on Sept 12, 2016 and my references have been called in mid November. Just recently, I have been notified that my file is being reviewed for consideration for MPAC this upcoming February.
Anybody else have any news?
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Champcamp94 on December 12, 2017, 17:04:54
Completed my interview on October 28th.. hoping to hear back this week. Anyone else get any offers yet besides the one on the other thread?
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Grpyhman78 on December 12, 2017, 20:39:17
Negative, nothing yet. I to am hoping to hear something before they leave for Christmas break :/
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: PuckChaser on December 13, 2017, 12:41:37
Military Christmas Break usually starts Friday. If you haven't heard anything by now, it's likely you won't hear anything until January.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: coyote489 on December 13, 2017, 13:24:56
Military Christmas Break usually starts Friday. If you haven't heard anything by now, it's likely you won't hear anything until January.

Well that's slightly depressing... called CFRC this morning and I'm on competition list still, so looks like I probably won't make it on the January QL3 (with recruit school bypass). Was hoping to hear this week but no such luck as of yet. Hopefully by Friday if I'm lucky. Anyone else hoping to jump on the January course here?
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: GermanWolf on December 13, 2017, 20:24:34
I'm unfortunately still waiting to finish my degree in April 2018. Got called in for medical and interview at the same time for everyone to realize that I do not have my degree yet and that I would not be able to do the interview until I get said degree. My references got called and everything so I don't know if they will have to repeat that again in April but we will see. That's ok with me though, gives me more time at the gym and I just started a supervising position at work.

Good luck to all of you, seems like its a competitive position but awesome to hear about the 73 positions next year (for me that is relevant anyways).
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Grpyhman78 on December 14, 2017, 12:11:32
I called my CFRC today too in hopes of catching them before they left for the holidays, since I have not made contact since late October, and they informed me that I have a pending job offer for MP! They informed me that they are just working out the final offer and that I should receive it by either just before the Christmas break or shortly thereafter so I don't know if I'll make the January class... but still pretty damn good news!
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: WatchDog87 on December 14, 2017, 21:51:39
Gryphman, that's awesome! Congratulations.

 Now just to hear something from my VOT and I'd be happy lol
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: coyote489 on December 15, 2017, 13:41:52
Just curious if anyone out there has had an offer come down the pipe yet that lives in BC, or even Alberta? Happy holidays everyone, good luck and Thanks for any info!
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: danteh on December 18, 2017, 13:10:00
Gryphman, that's awesome! Congratulations.

 Now just to hear something from my VOT and I'd be happy lol

Same :( Reading all the posts about people getting their MPAC interviews and I’m here a year into my OT twiddling my thumbs waiting for one.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: WatchDog87 on December 19, 2017, 09:21:33
Same :( Reading all the posts about people getting their MPAC interviews and I’m here a year into my OT twiddling my thumbs waiting for one.

Holy Crap.... a year?  I put mine in at the deadline lol, the academy has been contacting my references and my old supervisors....  just waiting on word on an MPAC. Have you heard anything at all?
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: RomeoJuliet on December 19, 2017, 09:30:01
My how things have changed. A 'few' years ago when I applied  MP was my 3rd choice.  Was offered a position 3 months after I applied. I decided to wait to for a medic position. It did, phew;)


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Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: coyote489 on December 22, 2017, 15:20:31
Well santa came early this year and I finally got my offer for military police NCM!!!! After 16 months of application they called today. Super pumped and am slated for the January 9th QL3. Thanks to all who answered my million questions.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Swally on January 09, 2018, 14:32:03
Morning all!
I have a somewhat off topic question but I think I can still make ut fit this topic and save having to start a new thread:

Former MP (conscription) solder from Sweden.
Just shy of 10 years as a correctional officer both provincial and federally.
Grade 12 only, nothing else.
I'm the process for CF now, looking at Armour.
What, if any, are my options of getting over to MP?

Cheers!  ;D
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: ExRCDcpl on January 09, 2018, 17:06:25
Morning all!
I have a somewhat off topic question but I think I can still make ut fit this topic and save having to start a new thread:

Former MP (conscription) solder from Sweden.
Just shy of 10 years as a correctional officer both provincial and federally.
Grade 12 only, nothing else.
I'm the process for CF now, looking at Armour.
What, if any, are my options of getting over to MP?

Cheers!  ;D

Without a diploma in police foundations or equivalent from an accredited college your options for becoming an MP are either join the armoured corps and after a few years apply for an occupational transfer to MP if you can.  You can also get a college diploma in police foundations or equivalent and then apply to join as an MP.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: LunchMeat on January 09, 2018, 19:12:07
Without a diploma in police foundations or equivalent from an accredited college your options for becoming an MP are either join the armoured corps and after a few years apply for an occupational transfer to MP if you can.  You can also get a college diploma in police foundations or equivalent and then apply to join as an MP.

Transfers are tough too, you either need a portion of the education and an operational tour of 180 days, or the full educational requirement.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Swally on January 10, 2018, 11:46:59
Yeah I'm looking at what I can do online once I'm in, and the do the transfer.

Lunchmeat, could you elaborate a little on portion the educational requirements and the 180 tour.
Never heard that, so it's nice to see there are options.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: ExRCDcpl on January 10, 2018, 13:16:01
Yeah I'm looking at what I can do online once I'm in, and the do the transfer.

Lunchmeat, could you elaborate a little on portion the educational requirements and the 180 tour.
Never heard that, so it's nice to see there are options.

When I OT'd the requirements if you didn't have police foundations were you either had to be PLQ qualified OR have an operational tour with at least 180 days spent in theatre
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: garb811 on January 10, 2018, 22:24:43
Yeah I'm looking at what I can do online once I'm in, and the do the transfer.

Lunchmeat, could you elaborate a little on portion the educational requirements and the 180 tour.
Never heard that, so it's nice to see there are options.
The current standard for an Occupational Transfer is:

Ideal

Approved diploma or an approved degree AND a valid driver's license.

Acceptable

Secondary school graduation certificate or a secondary V certificate of Quebec AND Two full courses from any program from an approved post-secondary institution OR Two university credit courses completed (in Quebec, four (4) university courses of three (3) credits) in an approved area (Criminal Justice, Criminology, Emergency/Crisis and Disaster Management, Justice Studies, Law, Police Science/Studies, Psychology, Sécurité Publique (Quebec), Sociology.) AND a valid driver's license.

Secondary school graduation certificate or a secondary V certificate of Quebec AND a valid drivers license AND Deployed operational experience (international or domestic) of at leastsix (6) months cumulative OR Must be qualified as a Close Protection Operative (AGGB).

Please note that these standards are reviewed yearly during the Annual Military Occupation Review and may not be what is required when you are eligible to submit an OT request.

Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: danteh on January 11, 2018, 12:45:14
Holy Crap.... a year?  I put mine in at the deadline lol, the academy has been contacting my references and my old supervisors....  just waiting on word on an MPAC. Have you heard anything at all?

Yup put my application in December 2016 for my OT and yesterday I just got a message asking for my background check forms to be handed in to the recruiting cell. Luckily I'm in a good trade right now and I am still getting sent on cool taskings so I honestly can't complain that much. If I was in a holding platoon it would be a totally different story. I think the best thing to come out of the wait was I have had over a year to change my mind and I havn't thought about doing it once so its great reassurance.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: WatchDog87 on January 14, 2018, 00:06:14
Yup put my application in December 2016 for my OT and yesterday I just got a message asking for my background check forms to be handed in to the recruiting cell. Luckily I'm in a good trade right now and I am still getting sent on cool taskings so I honestly can't complain that much. If I was in a holding platoon it would be a totally different story. I think the best thing to come out of the wait was I have had over a year to change my mind and I havn't thought about doing it once so its great reassurance.

Well I guess I shouldn’t be holding my breath on hearing anything any time soon...  my application got to Ottawa in Oct and the MP Academy started calling my references in early Nov. I was hoping things were moving along smoothly, but you were waiting for over a year before you heard anything.  But I’m in the same boat as you, I enjoy the trade I’m in.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: WestCoastOntarian on January 19, 2018, 03:44:25
Hey all, first time posting.

I was found 'suitable' for MP a few days back and moving forward in the process. I was told by my MCC that I should hear back in 6-7 weeks for MPAC.

Is this normally how long it takes? I'm super impatient, haha.

I'm also seeing in other forum posts that it truly is MPAC again, and not a BII. Should be interesting for sure!

Might be around these forums a bit more asking questions in the near future. See you around!
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: EpicBeardedMan on January 19, 2018, 06:45:22
Hey all, first time posting.

I was found 'suitable' for MP a few days back and moving forward in the process. I was told by my MCC that I should hear back in 6-7 weeks for MPAC.

Is this normally how long it takes? I'm super impatient, haha.

I'm also seeing in other forum posts that it truly is MPAC again, and not a BII. Should be interesting for sure!

Might be around these forums a bit more asking questions in the near future. See you around!

Im in the same boat as you, as a returning member. Ive read on here and was told by my mcc that mid Feb was the next mpacc..whether or not that means Ill be on it remains to be seen lol. Hurry up and wait is a common term used in the Miliary..you'll see why! Hang in there.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: DMC2012 on January 19, 2018, 10:40:36
I was contacted by my CFRC a few days ago. They said next MPAC is scheduled for Feb 17&18, 2018. They are aiming to send out invitations to attend starting next week. Best of luck!
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: WestCoastOntarian on January 20, 2018, 00:52:38
Im in the same boat as you, as a returning member. Ive read on here and was told by my mcc that mid Feb was the next mpacc..whether or not that means Ill be on it remains to be seen lol. Hurry up and wait is a common term used in the Miliary..you'll see why! Hang in there.

That's funny, I was gonna include the "hurry up and wait" in my last post. My best friend is finishing up at RMCC right now and told me that a few years back haha.

Thanks for the info DMC2012. That would be great to get the call for the 17th and 18th. Keeping my fingers crossed.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: kratz on January 20, 2018, 03:45:22
It's a. Perennial answer, but... don't sweat the small stuff.

WWWdBI ?
What Would We do Before Internet?
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Macgruber on January 25, 2018, 12:56:30
Just curious if anyone has any updates on the next MPAC?

Anyone get confirmations yet?
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: DMC2012 on January 25, 2018, 14:18:53
I haven't heard anything yet. If and when I do, I'll definitely post.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Gazoo362 on January 25, 2018, 15:20:19
I was given verbal confirmation by my recruiter that I'll be going to MPAC on FEB 17 and 18 in Borden.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Macgruber on January 25, 2018, 15:26:49
I was given verbal confirmation by my recruiter that I'll be going to MPAC on FEB 17 and 18 in Borden.

Congrats, how long ago were you given the verbal?
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Gazoo362 on January 25, 2018, 15:57:42
Congrats, how long ago were you given the verbal?

About a week and a half ago when I called to see if there was any update on my file
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Macgruber on January 26, 2018, 12:36:57
Good stuff.

Anyone have any idea how long offers come once completed MPAC?
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: EpicBeardedMan on January 26, 2018, 12:48:29
Not sure whats going on with my file, called today to see if there was any news on the mpac...was told by the sgt at the desk that I have to wait for an MP interview? Thought they did away with those? Doubt ill be on this upcoming MPAC, doesnt sound like anyone at the CFRC can give me a definitive answer on whats going on.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: FRSQRN on January 26, 2018, 20:47:55
MPOAC bound in February. Anyone else?

Misery loves company!
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: garb811 on January 27, 2018, 01:19:26
Good stuff.

Anyone have any idea how long offers come once completed MPAC?
If you're suitable, your name then goes onto a ranked list based on how you did at MPAC.  If you are near the top of the list, chances are you will get a call from your CFRC within a few weeks with Basic following shortly thereafter. 

If you're lower down, the wait can stretch out much longer.  Some people are suitable but never get the call because if another MPAC runs before you get the call, in all probability you will be bumped down the list by people who performed better than you in the latest MPAC.  They will explain the process to you at MPAC in case something has changed.

Having said that, with the 2 "super" courses for QL3 each year, they are now taking many more direct entry MP at a time, even though it is less frequent.  That means they will go a lot farther down the list from this MPAC than what used to happen in the past when they would be running 4-5 courses of QL3 per year and the intake for each course was smaller. 

I also don't know for sure, but I would guess they are going to reduce the number of MPAC held each year (there used to be 4 a year before the super courses) to synch up with when pers are actually "needed" to go to St Jean in order to be through BMQ, BMQ-L in time for one of the QL3s starting in Jan or Aug.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: armyhopeful1993 on January 27, 2018, 11:57:23
MPOAC bound in February. Anyone else?

Misery loves company!

If you don't mind me asking, when did you receive news?
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Macgruber on January 27, 2018, 13:10:34
If you're suitable, your name then goes onto a ranked list based on how you did at MPAC.  If you are near the top of the list, chances are you will get a call from your CFRC within a few weeks with Basic following shortly thereafter. 

If you're lower down, the wait can stretch out much longer.  Some people are suitable but never get the call because if another MPAC runs before you get the call, in all probability you will be bumped down the list by people who performed better than you in the latest MPAC.  They will explain the process to you at MPAC in case something has changed.

Having said that, with the 2 "super" courses for QL3 each year, they are now taking many more direct entry MP at a time, even though it is less frequent.  That means they will go a lot farther down the list from this MPAC than what used to happen in the past when they would be running 4-5 courses of QL3 per year and the intake for each course was smaller. 

I also don't know for sure, but I would guess they are going to reduce the number of MPAC held each year (there used to be 4 a year before the super courses) to synch up with when pers are actually "needed" to go to St Jean in order to be through BMQ, BMQ-L in time for one of the QL3s starting in Jan or Aug.

Thanks for the information, makes it more clear now
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: garb811 on January 27, 2018, 17:44:34
You're welcome.  There are a couple of other posts here that talk about MPAC, but I realize it isn't a easy thing to get a grip on, particularly when the process has been in flux over the last year or so as the Branch tried a new way of doing things, and unless the person who you are talking to at your CFRC has dealt with MPAC before, they are unlikely to know what's going on very well either.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: FRSQRN on January 28, 2018, 00:37:03
If you don't mind me asking, when did you receive news?

Yesterday afternoon.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Gazoo362 on January 28, 2018, 21:49:40
FRSQRN are you by any chance going to Borden from western Canada
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: FRSQRN on January 29, 2018, 00:38:35
FRSQRN are you by any chance going to Borden from western Canada

Negative, I will have a 2.5hr drive.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Macgruber on January 29, 2018, 14:30:48
Curious did anyone from Western Canada receive confirmation they would be attending the MPAC on Feb 17-18?
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: DMC2012 on February 01, 2018, 17:04:29
Confirmed this afternoon for MPAC on February 18th in Borden. CFRC is Corner Brook, NL. Anyone else ?
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Rookie13 on February 01, 2018, 17:49:58
Confirmed for February 17th. Got notice this morning
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: coyote489 on February 01, 2018, 17:50:43
Curious did anyone from Western Canada receive confirmation they would be attending the MPAC on Feb 17-18?

If your in western Canada be prepared to be dead last for being called to MPAC. A few guys on my QL3 here are from BC and like me where called last minute. Don't lose faith yet, just be patient. That's my best advice for the MP application.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: armyhopeful1993 on February 01, 2018, 20:41:55
Yesterday afternoon.

see you there! turns out I received my invitation on the 25th.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Gazoo362 on February 01, 2018, 22:42:28
I'm in western Canada and recieved my invitation for the 18th of Feb.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Djtc on February 02, 2018, 11:49:54
Feb 18 MPAC from Ottawa.

Did you guys notice that MPAC is only a 2hr interview?
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: EpicBeardedMan on February 02, 2018, 13:19:26
Interesting, seems like some people are getting a 2hr interview and others are going for 2 days at Borden...
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Hsinom on February 02, 2018, 18:05:50
Hello,

I'm new here but have been following this sub section for the last 4-5 months. I applied to the military police position back in July 2017 approx. I finished my Interview and Medical here at new westminster recruiting center in Vancouver back in November. I'm just curious what everyone's timeline looks like from start of the application to finish. Last I heard was today asking for a updated address to my drivers license. What would typically be the next step if everything goes well?

Edit- I forgot to mention when they interviewed me asking where I like to be placed I'd mentioned airforce. Is there normally a choice which province/base you'd be stationed? I prefer to be close to Vancouver e.g Comox, Victoria etc. and I know there is a possibility of deployment however I'm curious to know if I could live and work close to family.

Any help is much appreciated.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: EpicBeardedMan on February 02, 2018, 19:30:11
Hello,

I'm new here but have been following this sub section for the last 4-5 months. I applied to the military police position back in July 2017 approx. I finished my Interview and Medical here at new westminster recruiting center in Vancouver back in November. I'm just curious what everyone's timeline looks like from start of the application to finish. Last I heard was today asking for a updated address to my drivers license. What would typically be the next step if everything goes well?

Edit- I forgot to mention when they interviewed me asking where I like to be placed I'd mentioned airforce. Is there normally a choice which province/base you'd be stationed? I prefer to be close to Vancouver e.g Comox, Victoria etc. and I know there is a possibility of deployment however I'm curious to know if I could live and work close to family.

Any help is much appreciated.

You will be posted where the CF needs you, you have the option of picking where you'd LIKE to go but inevitably it is where they need you. Your element has no bearing on where you're posted in any purple trade in the CF. Search the forums, all these questions have been answered multiple times before...good luck.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Birdman17 on February 09, 2018, 10:54:58
Hey guys, long time reader. Just looking to see if anyone has an idea on how long it takes for an offer to trickle down from the selection board to the local CFRC? With a selection coming up on the 14th, I'm just curious on how soon I could hear something if successful. Also, anyone know whether the Aug. QL3 is full yet? Ideally I do BMQ this spring, maybe SQ and then hop on the Aug. QL3 and not have to sit on PAT for 6 months.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: garb811 on February 09, 2018, 11:05:03
It can take anywhere from a few days to a few months to never, depending on where you place on the ranking list.  Very attractive candidates get the call first, borderline ones sit and wait.

All the recruiting activity going on for people in the final stages is to line them up for the August courses, so yes, ideally it would be a quick notification, then BMQ, BMQ-L, brief stint on OJE somewhere (probably near where you were recruited) then the August start for QL3 with you on the road in January 2019.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Birdman17 on February 09, 2018, 11:19:53
Thanks for the quick reply Garb. With the newly revised MPAC kicking off mid month, I wonder how many people are left on the selection list. Any one have any ideas on the remaining positions for the 2017 fiscal year? 
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: garb811 on February 09, 2018, 12:27:58
Don't get wrapped up about the numbers left for FY 2017 (particularly since 2018 numbers are just around the corner as well), concentrate on being the most attractive candidate out there.  Be the best candidate and it doesn't matter if there are 10 positions, tank the process and it doesn't matter if there are 1000...

I know people want to try to figure out their odds but there are more important things to focus on.

Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: WatchDog87 on February 09, 2018, 17:26:00
Got some great news today!  I'm in on the MPAC on the 18th Feb, Like a couple of posts back I did notice they're still doing the BII at this MPAC.  Super Stoked! Now lets hope I merit high enough to be selected this year. Woot Woot!

There was quite a few name on the list, 45 or so! it'll be nice to meet some of the new candidates and some of the VOTs like myself.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: coyote489 on February 09, 2018, 20:01:45
ideally it would be a quick notification, then BMQ, BMQ-L, brief stint on OJE somewhere (probably near where you were recruited) then the August start for QL3 with you on the road in January 2019.

So not one Reg F candidate did their BMQ-L before our QL3. I think most are going right after course or at least before QL5, they haven't heard anything about it yet. Luckily I did it back in my PRes days and it's still valid so I'm in the clear. Also, some did OJE for 3 days, others for a couple weeks. Then again they had the Christmas break in between basic and QL3 so that could be why they didn't do the BMQ-L. But yah like garb said, you'll be loaded on the August QL3 if your selected from this feb MPAC. My offer came December 23 and I did BII on October 23.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Hsinom on February 09, 2018, 23:35:27
You will be posted where the CF needs you, you have the option of picking where you'd LIKE to go but inevitably it is where they need you. Your element has no bearing on where you're posted in any purple trade in the CF. Search the forums, all these questions have been answered multiple times before...good luck.

Thank you
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Hsinom on February 09, 2018, 23:42:35
I got invited today to attend a MP BII on Feb 17th as a last minute replacement. I'm in Vancouver and flying out on the 16th. I understand it's a interview  but can anyone provide any details what it means?
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: garb811 on February 09, 2018, 23:52:20
Congrats!  The name says it all, Background Integrity Interview. 
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Hsinom on February 10, 2018, 00:40:22
Congrats!  The name says it all, Background Integrity Interview.


Thank you!
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: EpicBeardedMan on February 12, 2018, 11:37:37
Any idea when the next MPAC would be after this one?
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Sephur on February 12, 2018, 13:23:56
See you both at MPOAC tomorrow @armyhopeful1993 and @FRSQRN; waited a year and a half for this cause my CFRC lost my medical forms and my interview expired the same month as the last MPOAC in November
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: WatchDog87 on February 13, 2018, 14:15:45
Congrats!  The name says it all, Background Integrity Interview.

I have no reason to be nervous about them asking about my past...  Put I tell you, I'm more nervous than a long tailed cat in a room full of racking chairs.  But I think it's more so that this is basically starting my military career from the beginning all over again. The unexpected, they can rip my past apart i don't care lol.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Champcamp94 on February 19, 2018, 09:07:39
How did the interviews on the 18th go for everyone? Did they give you an idea of when you should hear back from them?
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: WatchDog87 on February 19, 2018, 10:14:04
Mine went well yesterday.

No indication of when i'll hear back, for me being an occupational transfer though it has to go to my Career Manager first to approve me leaving my trade.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Hsinom on February 19, 2018, 10:48:01
I did mine on the 17th and went well. However they mentioned I won't know till after 4 weeks.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: danteh on February 19, 2018, 19:07:20
How did the interviews on the 18th go for everyone? Did they give you an idea of when you should hear back from them?

Mine went good. A few things that tripped me up but all and all it was good. I was told they would be done all the assessments in 4 weeks but couldn’t even give me an estimate to when I would hear anything. I’m assuming if it goes past the August course I’m SOL for the year.

Does anyone know of the numbers they are looking to recruit for the fiscal year? Also how many are usually in a course?
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: garb811 on February 19, 2018, 20:22:39
Wait...so all you guys did was the BII, nothing else?
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: danteh on February 19, 2018, 20:41:49
Wait...so all you guys did was the BII, nothing else?

That’s all I did and they said that was the last step in the process.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Hsinom on February 19, 2018, 20:45:23
That’s all I did and they said that was the last step in the process.

Same here
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: coyote489 on February 19, 2018, 21:29:12


Does anyone know of the numbers they are looking to recruit for the fiscal year? Also how many are usually in a course?

I’m Not sure about recruiting numbers. The career manager today said the trade is sittin green right now. As for the course numbers, 60 or so on the last 3s and 40 on mine right now (NCM). That’s not including the 30 or so officers (20 English, 10 in French platoon, roughly). Also if you are VOT or have recruit school bypass they might load you on the course last minute like myself and a few others. Or toss you on OJE for a little bit until the startup in August.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: WatchDog87 on February 20, 2018, 09:40:27
Wait...so all you guys did was the BII, nothing else?

Yep,  Went to Borden on Saturday for a Mid Morning interview, and was back home in Toronto by 1300.

They must be in the transition back to the old MPAC??  As I've heard of the MPAC and the BII, but never heard of it as the MPAC/BII lol.

Maybe the last group of BIIs before they return to the true MPAC, but you would definitely know more about that than I would.

I’m Not sure about recruiting numbers. The career manager today said the trade is sittin green right now. As for the course numbers, 60 or so on the last 3s and 40 on mine right now (NCM). That’s not including the 30 or so officers (20 English, 10 in French platoon, roughly). Also if you are VOT or have recruit school bypass they might load you on the course last minute like myself and a few others. Or toss you on OJE for a little bit until the startup in August.

Coyote, how last minute was your course loading lol?
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: coyote489 on February 20, 2018, 14:57:17
Well for me and another guy with the bypass route we were re sworn in on the 4th of January and course started the 8th. Both of us were a day late...
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: garb811 on February 21, 2018, 22:31:53
Does anyone know of the numbers they are looking to recruit for the fiscal year? Also how many are usually in a course?
Not sure if numbers for next FY are out yet but generally we see 100-120 pers leave the Branch each year. 

The strategic intake plan sees a split of sources for the numbers, some CT, some OT etc with the majority being direct entry.  We are currently "Green" but that is because we currently have more Cpls than we have positions for (MMO) due to vacancies in higher ranks.  There is a plan in place to balance that out this APS but that might impact how many pers are being brought in, at least for the August start.

There had been talk with the new Academy of them being able to put 3 x 30 pers Pls through each intake but looking at their course schedule, it is now showing 3 x 24 pers Pls per intake.  Maybe they realized they were being a bit optimistic on what they would be able to do in the new Bldg. 
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: WatchDog87 on February 22, 2018, 09:35:01
Not sure if numbers for next FY are out yet but generally we see 100-120 pers leave the Branch each year. 

The strategic intake plan sees a split of sources for the numbers, some CT, some OT etc with the majority being direct entry.  We are currently "Green" but that is because we currently have more Cpls than we have positions for (MMO) due to vacancies in higher ranks.  There is a plan in place to balance that out this APS but that might impact how many pers are being brought in, at least for the August start.

There had been talk with the new Academy of them being able to put 3 x 30 pers Pls through each intake but looking at their course schedule, it is now showing 3 x 24 pers Pls per intake.  Maybe they realized they were being a bit optimistic on what they would be able to do in the new Bldg.

Wow 100-120! I guess this means promotions happen from time to time in the branch at least lol.

The new Academy is quite awesome looking from the outside,  we did our BIIs across the street...  Little "Carrot on the Stick" thinking... If you pass your BII you might get to go in there some day... lol

Buck_HR might know the numbers for Fiscal year 18/19.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: garb811 on February 22, 2018, 21:48:06
Wow 100-120! I guess this means promotions happen from time to time in the branch at least lol.
Sadly, we have been in what has been referred to as the "FRP Bubble" for the last several years and it is likely to be a few more years before we are out of it.  This has meant our intake has increased to fill the vacuum that bubble has caused at the higher ranks, I think the norm prior to the bubble was 60-70 a year. 

But, yes.  Promotions are happening, much too quickly in some cases.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: WatchDog87 on February 22, 2018, 22:11:11
Sadly, we have been in what has been referred to as the "FRP Bubble" for the last several years and it is likely to be a few more years before we are out of it.  This has meant our intake has increased to fill the vacuum that bubble has caused at the higher ranks, I think the norm prior to the bubble was 60-70 a year. 

But, yes.  Promotions are happening, much too quickly in some cases.

Sounds exactly like the WEng (NET) world when I was first getting in, then that caused a huge bottleneck because of the young guys in the higher ranks sticking around for years.  I would imagine the same will happen.

I'm not overly concerned about promotion, if I was I wouldn't be willing to lose my leaf to VOT.  I'm looking forward to the job Satisfaction, and the branch in general.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: WatchDog87 on March 12, 2018, 12:59:22
Any of the Feb BII guys/gals here any rumblings back yet?

I'm guessing they're still going over everything in Borden. My "parking garage neighbor" was one of the interviewers up there and he hasn't been back since, so i would assume he's still on TD up there.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Gazoo362 on March 12, 2018, 15:24:10
Only thing i have heard of was being found suitable, thats all ive been told from the recruiters.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Sephur on March 12, 2018, 21:17:17
My CFRC just informed me that I'm found suitable from MPOAC. That's all the information I got from them as well.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: armyhopeful1993 on March 12, 2018, 21:18:46
My CFRC just informed me that I'm found suitable from MPOAC. That's all the information I got from them as well.

When did you hear that if you don't mind me asking?
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Hsinom on March 12, 2018, 22:29:48
I have heard nothing so far, and I'm in Vancouver BC
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Sephur on March 12, 2018, 22:36:28
When did you hear that if you don't mind me asking?

Today. I e-mailed the clerk that has been personally helping me along this process and he gave me a courtesy call a few hours later to say I've been found suitable.

MPOAC was Feb 13-15 of this year.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: WatchDog87 on March 13, 2018, 09:36:55
That's good to hear!!!  If only I had a clerk or a recruiter to call to tell me my "Results" haha.

Being a Voluntary Occupational Transfer it's a bit different for me,  I have to wait for my Career Manager to say yes to me leaving my trade and I don't even think he's seen my file yet.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Rookie13 on March 13, 2018, 15:09:42
Does anyone know when selections occur or how often they do for NCM MP, or will nothing happen until the new fiscal year.
Thanks in advance
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: ExRCDcpl on March 13, 2018, 17:25:41
Does anyone know when selections occur or how often they do for NCM MP, or will nothing happen until the new fiscal year. Was recently placed on the competition list and am curious to see the rough timeline.
Thanks in advance

Just a piece of friendly advice here.  Your name implies you’re already an MP however your post clearly indicates you aren’t.  Assuming you’re not in the CAF you’re name states you’re an MP (which you aren’t) and in the CAF itself (which you may not be either).

Not many people around here are too appreciative of people claiming to be something they aren’t.



Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: garb811 on March 13, 2018, 20:07:14
Does anyone know when selections occur or how often they do for NCM MP, or will nothing happen until the new fiscal year.
Thanks in advance
Well, as I've explained elsewhere, there are now 2 x QL3 courses ran per year.  One starts in January after block leave and the other starts in August, finishing right before block leave.

Due to this, selections are made to line people up to meet those start times, so "generally" February/Marchish and July/Augustish...  Nothing is set in stone though but this is becoming the general rule of thumb.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Gazoo362 on March 15, 2018, 17:11:07
Just got my offer today! Good luck to everyone still waiting for one!
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: WestCoastOntarian on March 15, 2018, 19:33:10
Just wondering if anyone knows when the next MPAC might be?

Much appreciated!
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Sephur on March 16, 2018, 00:09:37
Just got my offer today! Good luck to everyone still waiting for one!

Congratulations :D When are they shipping you off?
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Gazoo362 on March 16, 2018, 00:26:47
I report to my nearest base in a month or so for OJT. I got a recruit school bypass from previous service with the reserves.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Djtc on March 19, 2018, 17:14:50
Anybody else hear back from their recruitment center? I was told that I am on the competion/merit list . Not sure if that is good or bad..
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: DMC2012 on March 19, 2018, 23:54:22
I got the exact same information from my recruiting centre as well.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: WestCoastOntarian on March 24, 2018, 21:00:30
Just wondering if anyone knows when the next MPAC might be?

Much appreciated!


Anyone have any information?

Also, how long on average does it take to hear back after submitting medical forms? It's been quite a few weeks since my interview and medical exam and I have not heard anything.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: coyote489 on March 25, 2018, 14:14:27

Anyone have any information?

Also, how long on average does it take to hear back after submitting medical forms? It's been quite a few weeks since my interview and medical exam and I have not heard anything.

It can take anywhere from 2 weeks to a few months to hear back after your medical/interview. I recall it taking only about 4 weeks for me to get cleared by medical. Just have patience, I remember my file was moving lightning fast when CFRC was dealing with it then when it went to Borden it felt like it fell off the face of the earth. Once it goes to Borden your local recruiting centre will not know what is going on until you are called for the Bii or MPAC. It took 15 months from start to finish for me. Some guys here it took nearly 2 years to get the offer. So like I said, have patience.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: jm8six_ on March 26, 2018, 12:08:44

Anyone have any information?

Also, how long on average does it take to hear back after submitting medical forms? It's been quite a few weeks since my interview and medical exam and I have not heard anything.

I heard the next MPAC / BII is in August.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: dammon500 on March 28, 2018, 17:13:11

Anyone have any information?

Also, how long on average does it take to hear back after submitting medical forms? It's been quite a few weeks since my interview and medical exam and I have not heard anything.

I was told by my recruiter that due to this new BII/MPAC process the recruiters are still trying to figure things out and has no idea how long the process might take. I was cleared for the interview and medical back in September. In December my previous/current supervisors and references were contacted and three weeks ago they were contacted again for background check. The background investigator advised one of my previous supervisor that I was found competitive and will be moved to the next process but I did not hear from them directly. So its back to waiting for me haha. Like Coyote said, be patient my friend, at the end of the long wait, Im sure you will be rewarded! No news is better than bad news! Good luck!

I heard the next MPAC / BII is in August.

Where did you hear that may I ask?
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: jm8six_ on March 28, 2018, 17:34:27
I was told by my recruiter that due to this new BII/MPAC process the recruiters are still trying to figure things out and has no idea how long the process might take. I was cleared for the interview and medical back in September. In December my previous/current supervisors and references were contacted and three weeks ago they were contacted again for background check. The background investigator advised one of my previous supervisor that I was found competitive and will be moved to the next process but I did not hear from them directly. So its back to waiting for me haha. Like Coyote said, be patient my friend, at the end of the long wait, Im sure you will be rewarded! No news is better than bad news! Good luck!

Where did you hear that may I ask?

Ottawa recruit center.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: WatchDog87 on April 05, 2018, 13:58:46
And it's OFFICIAL!!!  I received my VOT Offer Message today.  Have 2 weeks to send acceptance/refusal message, then posted to Denison Armoury on the 16th July.  Hopefully start the QL3 in August...

Super Stoked, and yet a little nervous... especially about losing my rank and spec pay haha.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: danteh on April 05, 2018, 18:01:01
And it's OFFICIAL!!!  I received my VOT Offer Message today.  Have 2 weeks to send acceptance/refusal message, then posted to Denison Armoury on the 16th July.  Hopefully start the QL3 in August...

Super Stoked, and yet a little nervous... especially about losing my rank and spec pay haha.

Congrats. Still waiting for my response :(

Did you ask to get posted? I find it weird that they would post you for like 4 months then potentially post you again after your 3s.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Lean-N-Supreme on April 05, 2018, 19:06:12
And it's OFFICIAL!!!  I received my VOT Offer Message today.  Have 2 weeks to send acceptance/refusal message, then posted to Denison Armoury on the 16th July.  Hopefully start the QL3 in August...

Super Stoked, and yet a little nervous... especially about losing my rank and spec pay haha.
Congratulations. How long was your process?
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: garb811 on April 05, 2018, 21:34:52
Congrats. Still waiting for my response :(

Did you ask to get posted? I find it weird that they would post you for like 4 months then potentially post you again after your 3s.
As soon as he accepts his VOT and it is processed, he is posted to the BTL.  In the bad old days that meant a quick trip to Borden to sit on PAT Platoon.  Nowadays they post you to the local BTL and get sent to do some OJE. 
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: danteh on April 05, 2018, 21:58:39
As soon as he accepts his VOT and it is processed, he is posted to the BTL.  In the bad old days that meant a quick trip to Borden to sit on PAT Platoon.  Nowadays they post you to the local BTL and get sent to do some OJE.

So if I am in the same boat does that mean I will be posted out of Trenton most likely then while I wait for my course? I was hoping to do my OJT here.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: garb811 on April 05, 2018, 22:06:53
So if I am in the same boat does that mean I will be posted out of Trenton most likely then while I wait for my course? I was hoping to do my OJT here.
You'll probably be posted to Trenton's BTL and do OJE with 21 MP Flt.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: WatchDog87 on April 05, 2018, 23:42:22
Congratulations. How long was your process?

process was actually very quick. I put my application in on Oct 6th, the day of the VOT deadline.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Sephur on April 05, 2018, 23:59:31
process was actually very quick. I put my application in on Oct 6th, the day of the VOT deadline.

Congratulations :D

and here I am, being a civvie going  ??? at all the abbreviations
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: WatchDog87 on April 06, 2018, 09:32:27
Congratulations :D

and here I am, being a civvie going  ??? at all the abbreviations

You want to see the abbreviations in my Offer Message, holy heck...  I think if they had to all be spelled out, the message would go from 1 page to 10... haha
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: garb811 on April 06, 2018, 11:29:48
The only thing more intimidating than a bunch of acronyms is mariomike pulling out his googlefu to generate a list of links for you to research on your own.   :rofl:
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: mariomike on April 06, 2018, 11:53:27
and here I am, being a civvie going  ??? at all the abbreviations

The only thing more intimidating than a bunch of acronyms is mariomike pulling out his googlefu to generate a list of links for you to research on your own.   :rofl:

ok, garb.

If you think trying to help a civilian learn CAF acronyms is so hilarious, post removed.

Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: garb811 on April 06, 2018, 12:07:11
My apologies MM, wasn't meaning that as a slight towards what you provided. 
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: mariomike on April 06, 2018, 12:08:54
Just me getting cranky in my old age.  :)
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: armyhopeful1993 on April 07, 2018, 22:37:35
And it's OFFICIAL!!!  I received my VOT Offer Message today.  Have 2 weeks to send acceptance/refusal message, then posted to Denison Armoury on the 16th July.  Hopefully start the QL3 in August...

Super Stoked, and yet a little nervous... especially about losing my rank and spec pay haha.

By any chance were any of your supervisors CC'ed in the message? I'm expecting to get an offer as well but I don't have access to my DWAN email right now. I might have to start calling all sorts of people Monday to avoid automatic rejection.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: WatchDog87 on April 08, 2018, 15:49:15
By any chance were any of your supervisors CC'ed in the message? I'm expecting to get an offer as well but I don't have access to my DWAN email right now. I might have to start calling all sorts of people Monday to avoid automatic rejection.

It came to me straight for my OR, but the normal way would be for it to go to your supervisor first.  I haven't heard of anyone else getting their VOT yet,  May is usually when the messages come out.  I was talking to my BPSO a few weeks back and he said they wouldn't even entertain an update request until mid May.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: dammon500 on April 09, 2018, 17:58:27
Finally! BII April 21/22!! Anyone else here got the notification?
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: danteh on April 09, 2018, 20:08:45
Got a hold of my CM today and apparently my file has been done and with my chief clerk for a week now... Apparently they all had today off so hopefully I will have an answer on my OT tomorrow when I give them a call.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: WatchDog87 on April 09, 2018, 20:38:04
Got a hold of my CM today and apparently my file has been done and with my chief clerk for a week now... Apparently they all had today off so hopefully I will have an answer on my OT tomorrow when I give them a call.

gotta love it  ::)

But, Congratulations! Hopefully see you on the next QL3!
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: danteh on April 09, 2018, 20:57:06
gotta love it  ::)

But, Congratulations! Hopefully see you on the next QL3!

Hopefully. Been a very long process to get to this point. Hopefully its good news.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Rookie13 on April 10, 2018, 13:10:17
Officially accepted my offer today and just wanted to thank everyone for the help along the process and sharing some useful information.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: WatchDog87 on April 10, 2018, 13:26:48
Officially accepted my offer today and just wanted to thank everyone for the help along the process and sharing some useful information.

Congrats!!! Any word on Dates for BMQ and what not?
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Rookie13 on April 10, 2018, 13:32:03
BMQ in June but still no word on QL3 date , will most likely know more closer to enrolment date.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: garb811 on April 10, 2018, 22:48:31
BMQ in June but still no word on QL3 date , will most likely know more closer to enrolment date.
If you only go to St Jean in June, there is no way you're going to make the Aug course; you will only be partway through BMQ when it starts on 1 Aug.  Count on next Jan.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Rookie13 on April 11, 2018, 10:04:54
Thank you Garb. I did not know the exact date for the Aug QL3 So I will have a couple months inbetween graduation and start of QL3 in January.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: garb811 on April 11, 2018, 11:03:48
Yes.  Part of that "should" be BMQ-L but chances are you will be sent on OJE at, or near, where you were recruited for the remainder.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: tomahawk6 on April 11, 2018, 13:14:36
Why not send recruits to RCMP Academy ?After the Army they could then work for the RCMP .
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: LunchMeat on April 11, 2018, 13:24:25
Why not send recruits to RCMP Academy ?After the Army they could then work for the RCMP .

Because we just spent 50 million on a brand new, state of art academy. Plus, we'd never keep anyone around. They'd all jump for the better pay, Overtime, Shift Diff, better shift rotations, court pay etc. Oh, and real police work.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: danteh on April 11, 2018, 13:42:15
Got my OT message today and got accepted :) Posted to BTL 18 July and hopefully course loaded on the August course.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: ExRCDcpl on April 11, 2018, 16:58:07
Why not send recruits to RCMP Academy ?After the Army they could then work for the RCMP .

MPs can already lateral to the RCMP as it is.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: DMC2012 on April 11, 2018, 17:17:07
Accepted my offer today as well. BMQ 18 of June!
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: garb811 on April 11, 2018, 21:38:33
Why not send recruits to RCMP Academy ?After the Army they could then work for the RCMP .
It was actually looked at in the early 2000s, to the point of posting a MP to the Depot as an instructor.  One of the two who did that was posted to the Academy after his time at Depot was done to allow him to speak to both perspectives of how the training was similar/dissimilar etc.  End result was he ended up doing a lateral to RCMP a couple years on and we maintained our own Academy.

Pretty sure we talked about that in one of the threads here quite a few years ago...
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: danteh on April 11, 2018, 21:43:03
Do we know if the August course is full or not? Just trying to gauge my odds on making that course.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: garb811 on April 11, 2018, 21:52:15
I doubt it is full.  Haven't seen the numbers but the last time I checked last year's SIP it hadn't been met, and even if it had there wasn't enough to meet the max load of the course.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: WatchDog87 on April 11, 2018, 22:25:40
Yeah, hopefully on the August course.  Would really suck to be demoted and lose spec pay just to wait for the course in January lol
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Kanobii on April 12, 2018, 00:53:16
Finally! BII April 21/22!! Anyone else here got the notification?

Just got my flight booking today! I am interviewing on the 22nd  :D
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Macgruber on April 12, 2018, 15:45:35
Hello guys, I have a few questions regarding the MP trade, that I am having issues finding the answers too. How does lodging work for MP'S after graduation from Borden? Can you instantly get your own house/apt? How often do you get moved/relocated as an MP?
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Sephur on April 13, 2018, 00:15:28
Hey Garb, any estimation when MPOs should start getting their offers? Either from this year's fiscal year or from previous years' patterns?
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: garb811 on April 13, 2018, 12:22:03
Hello guys, I have a few questions regarding the MP trade, that I am having issues finding the answers too. How does lodging work for MP'S after graduation from Borden? Can you instantly get your own house/apt? How often do you get moved/relocated as an MP?
Once you graduate from the Academy, it is up to you to figure out your own housing.  Some locations, like Ottawa, no longer have single quarters so you won't have the option of going into shacks.  Some other locations have limited, or restricted, quarters and you may or may not be able to live in.  Other places it's totally up to you if you want to live in or move out.

How often do you get moved?  That's the million dollar question and it depends. I know people who have been moved after less than a year, I know other people who have remained in the same geographic location for almost their entire career.  There is no easy answer for that one.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: garb811 on April 13, 2018, 12:45:46
Hey Garb, any estimation when MPOs should start getting their offers? Either from this year's fiscal year or from previous years' patterns?
I can't really speak to that.  The numbers selected for Direct Entry are so small I haven't been able to see a definitive pattern from where I've worked.  Having said that, in order to make the next MPOC which starts in Jan, you'd need to be in St Jean by mid-Juneish in order to get through BMOQ and BMOQ-A in time.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: WatchDog87 on April 13, 2018, 13:08:46
I can't really speak to that.  The numbers selected for Direct Entry are so small I haven't been able to see a definitive pattern from where I've worked.  Having said that, in order to make the next MPOC which starts in Jan, you'd need to be in St Jean by mid-Juneish in order to get through BMOQ and BMOQ-A in time.

Oh you keep reminding me that I eventually will have to do BMQ-L and the mods for PMQ-L.....  BARF
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: armyhopeful1993 on April 14, 2018, 00:42:23
Hey Garb, any estimation when MPOs should start getting their offers? Either from this year's fiscal year or from previous years' patterns?

I got my offer via special commissioning this week if that helps.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Sephur on April 14, 2018, 01:07:25
I got my offer via special commissioning this week if that helps.

Just getting disheartened seeing every active member on this forum receiving their offers, and I'm the only active civvie hoping to hear back.

But nonetheless, congratulations to everyone :) I'll keep my head up and hope for the best.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: garb811 on April 14, 2018, 17:25:09
Just getting disheartened seeing every active member on this forum receiving their offers, and I'm the only active civvie hoping to hear back.

But nonetheless, congratulations to everyone :) I'll keep my head up and hope for the best.
Don't get disheartened.  So far, you're the only one posting who appears to be going DEO.  Trying to compare "your" situation to anyone else's isn't the way to go as every file and process is unique.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: WatchDog87 on April 14, 2018, 19:32:35
Don't get disheartened.  So far, you're the only one posting who appears to be going DEO.  Trying to compare "your" situation to anyone else's isn't the way to go as every file and process is unique.

Exactly! especially comparing to us Occupational Transfer guys/gals.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Sephur on April 16, 2018, 00:19:36
:) Thanks for the encouragement!
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: suprat on April 18, 2018, 02:50:36
Hey gang, couldn't get into my old account from way back so here I am as a noob.

Just signed my OT acceptance today, go on BTL 16 Jul so hopefully am on Aug course :)
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: WatchDog87 on April 18, 2018, 09:32:17
Hey gang, couldn't get into my old account from way back so here I am as a noob.

Just signed my OT acceptance today, go on BTL 16 Jul so hopefully am on Aug course :)

Congrats!!  Same BTL Date as me.  Hopefully on the August course as well!  I'm sure they've thought out the numbers and wouldn't intake more OTs than they have room for on the August course.... Yeah Yeah, I know... I'm expecting a lot.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: danteh on April 19, 2018, 08:57:04
Hey I was wondering if MPs are EMR qualified? Or are they just First Aid/AED like everyone else? Just wondering if I should get my EMR renewed before my course.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Brihard on April 19, 2018, 09:34:32
Hey I was wondering if MPs are EMR qualified? Or are they just First Aid/AED like everyone else? Just wondering if I should get my EMR renewed before my course.

I’ve never heard it as a requirement for the trade, and if it was they would provide it. That said, higher level first aid training is always value added. Do the course if you want to and are interested, because you never can know when you’ll be in a position to use it.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: sweep on April 20, 2018, 09:45:58
Hello, very excited to report I will be attending the MPSP this weekend in Borden.

My understanding is that I will be administered only the BII portion of the old MPAC.

My email specifically states that the interviews are only a few minutes long, can anyone confirm on the length of the interview?

Good luck to all attending this weekend.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: WatchDog87 on April 20, 2018, 09:51:03
Hello, very excited to report I will be attending the MPSP this weekend in Borden.

My understanding is that I will be administered only the BII portion of the old MPAC.

My email specifically states that the interviews are only a few minutes long, can anyone confirm on the length of the interview?

Good luck to all attending this weekend.

It will definitely be longer than a few minutes,  I will not comment on exactly how long mine was but the email I received said be prepared for a 2-3 hour interview.  I have heard a varying lengths, i guess it will just depend on how much you have in your past to talk about lol.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: sweep on April 20, 2018, 09:54:37
I figured it must've been a typo. I suppose it will be similar to the RCMP PEP exam.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Sephur on April 21, 2018, 12:16:45
I figured it must've been a typo. I suppose it will be similar to the RCMP PEP exam.

Once you've reached the end of the interview and there's something your interviewer wants to have clarified/explained further, that's the time they'd do it. So even if you finish early, they'd definitely utilize the time given for the interview.

Just a reminder that every post you read about the BII advises you to do; be yourself.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: WatchDog87 on April 27, 2018, 22:26:04
Hey folks, just a quick question.  Maybe for the folks that have gone the VOT route in the future.  I know a few of us who have received our offers and have accepted them.  Any idea on when we should expect to see course loading messages or even the "instruction package" that was eluded to when the acceptance message was sent off.

Thanks for any input.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Djtc on May 04, 2018, 19:03:57
Got my offer at the beginning of the week for MP . Sent out my enrolment offer today.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: dammon500 on May 14, 2018, 22:01:34
Got my offer at the beginning of the week for MP . Sent out my enrolment offer today.

Congrats Djtc!
When does your basic start?

I just got an employment offer as well, starting basic in August!

For new applicants wondering the wait time Ill share mine,

Applied June 2017
CFAT/TSD August 2017
Medical and Interview September 2017
BII April 2018
Enrollment offer May 2018
Total wait time: 9 Months

This was my experience of course, your wait time will vary from applicant to applicant. I've read that some were waiting over a year for their offer to come through.
Anyone else waiting for their BII/Offers, be patient and good luck!
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Djtc on May 16, 2018, 10:28:53
Congrats Djtc!
When does your basic start?

I just got an employment offer as well, starting basic in August!


Mine starts in June. However if successful, I am sure we will see each other on the ql3 course.

Where did you apply from
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: dammon500 on May 17, 2018, 01:05:32
Mine starts in June. However if successful, I am sure we will see each other on the ql3 course.

Where did you apply from

For sure bud, do you have any info on the dates for upcoming QL3?

Im applying from the toronto recruitment. You?
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: coyote489 on May 17, 2018, 08:24:46
There are 2 MP QL3 courses a year, one starting in January and ending Mid May and the second starting in August and ending in mid December. If you miss one of those and have to wait, you will be put on OJE at a detachment nearest the location you applied from. Good luck.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Kanobii on May 18, 2018, 03:33:18
Got my job offer a few days ago, going to Basic August 13th!
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Applicant1990 on May 20, 2018, 20:26:41
Hey guys, just curious if anyone knows when they'll start calling people for MPAC/BII for non commissioned mp applicants?
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: garb811 on May 23, 2018, 13:46:31
Hey guys, just curious if anyone knows when they'll start calling people for MPAC/BII for non commissioned mp applicants?
The next round will likely be centered on the 20-29 Oct 18 timeframe.  Not saying some may not happen before that, but that is quite likely when the majority are going to be done next.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Applicant1990 on May 24, 2018, 03:53:41
Thanks for the info garb811, looks like I'll likely be waiting a while until further processing. Just more time to prepare i suppose. BTW congrats kanobii on the job offer and good luck with bmq and the mp academy.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: WatchDog87 on June 05, 2018, 15:35:22
Some Great News!

Got confirmation today that I am on the QL3 Course from 7 August - 12 December 2018.

It was recommended that I submit a PLAR for BMQ-L, hopefully they actually award it to me.  My PLQ Qual should help me towards that, but we shall see.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Andrew244 on June 10, 2018, 17:46:59
Anyone know anything about the next 3s course ? I believe August.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: garb811 on June 10, 2018, 17:50:05
Uhhh...the dates are in the post right before yours.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Andrew244 on June 10, 2018, 17:58:55
Uhhh...the dates are in the post right before yours.


There was a some sort of issue, i didn’t have access too half of those messages when I posted. Thanks for pointing that out.

Correction: I was navigating the site poorly. ( first time user). Tonnes  of great info on here lol
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: danteh on June 16, 2018, 10:51:54
Has anyone other than WEng87 received a loading message for the August course yet?
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: WatchDog87 on June 18, 2018, 11:44:20
I haven't seen anything official yet, so I'm guessing it's still coming down the pipes.

I was only informed by the BTL manager, because I had a PSO friend go snooping around with her contacts.

still waiting on official loading message, I was told they'd be out last week... but nothing.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: danteh on June 25, 2018, 13:17:29
Doesn’t look like I will be on the August course. Just got my message for BMQ-L which is from August until September. Guess I’m waiting until January...
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: WatchDog87 on June 26, 2018, 14:34:00
Some Great News!

Got confirmation today that I am on the QL3 Course from 7 August - 12 December 2018.


I guess the confirmation from the BTL manager was not really a confirmation...  Looks like I am in the same boat as Danteh.  BMQ-L in August and then wait for the QL3 in January.

little disheartening for sure...  but such is life I guess.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: danteh on June 26, 2018, 14:35:41
I guess the confirmation from the BTL manager was not really a confirmation...  Looks like I am in the same boat as Danteh.  BMQ-L in August and then wait for the QL3 in January.

little disheartening for sure...  but such is life I guess.

Well at least were on A course together... Let me know if you find joining instructions or a kit list. My email was "Your going to Valcartier for BMQ-L August 20th. Bring what you need". Seriously.

I'm still trying to see if I even need to do the course as I ended up getting to the last week of my Infantry DP1 before getting injured and OT'd. Unfortunately at the time (and I don't even know if they do it now) they didn't differentiate the SQ and BIQ portion of the courses so even tho I got past the SQ portion of the course it doesn't show on my MPRR just that I completed 3 months of DP1 before getting medically re-coursed. Even worse is nobody in my CoC knows how to deal with this. I got told to talk with the CM who knows nothing, then I got told to talk with the BPSO who also knows nothing and I'm assuming the next course of action is to get in contact with the MP CM which I can tell will take a long time. Personally I don't care about going. I'd just rather not do a course I have already done.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: putz on June 26, 2018, 15:59:17
Try PLAR.  Deployment experience/Work up/operations etc.  Danteh it is a reach but if you have either your old course report or old paper copy UER it might have the required information. 
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: danteh on June 26, 2018, 16:00:58
Try PLAR.  Deployment experience/Work up/operations etc.  Danteh it is a reach but if you have either your old course report or old paper copy UER it might have the required information.

Yeah I'm gonna try. My unit is notoriously slow when it comes to paperwork so I'm just hoping I have time.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: coyote489 on June 26, 2018, 17:54:46
Nooooo!!! That sucks!!! I don’t understand why they would load you on the BMQ-L when it’s not a requirement for the MP QL3 unless they changed it. 95% of the people on my 3s didn’t have there Land yet and will have to go at a later date. I find that totally unfair to you guys really, having to take a month long course that isn’t needed immediately and push back your 3s because of it. Not cool. I’d make a few calls or talk to a few people to try and get on your 3s and do Land afterwards. My 2 cents in this matter. Your career course is what is most important.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: danteh on June 26, 2018, 17:56:10
Nooooo!!! That sucks!!! I don’t understand why they would load you on the BMQ-L when it’s not a requirement for the MP QL3 unless they changed it. 95% of the people on my 3s didn’t have there Land yet and will have to go at a later date. I find that totally unfair to you guys really, having to take a month long course that isn’t needed immediately and push back your 3s because of it. Not cool. I’d make a few calls or talk to a few people to try and get on your 3s and do Land afterwards. My 2 cents in this matter. Your career course is what is most important.

Do you know where I could find out if it is a requirement or not?
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: trooper142 on June 26, 2018, 18:58:20
Nooooo!!! That sucks!!! I don’t understand why they would load you on the BMQ-L when it’s not a requirement for the MP QL3 unless they changed it. 95% of the people on my 3s didn’t have there Land yet and will have to go at a later date. I find that totally unfair to you guys really, having to take a month long course that isn’t needed immediately and push back your 3s because of it. Not cool. I’d make a few calls or talk to a few people to try and get on your 3s and do Land afterwards. My 2 cents in this matter. Your career course is what is most important.

 :facepalm: Don't give the member bad advice! It may not be a career course, but it certainly important.  :facepalm:

The MP branch has decided that members need this course prior to going on their QL5 course, so many members are finding themselves delayed in their QL5 because they didnt have BMQ-L. Not to mention they aren't deploying members without it. What is more important, waiting a few extra months to be course loaded, or getting to trade qualified, getting caught in the tempo we are in right now, units not wanting to let their members go away for BMQ-L, then rushing last minute to fill them on courses because their 5s are coming up? Id argue the former.

I have seen members grieve and lose this issue recently. I have seen members miss out on deployments because of this, denied 5s because of it, and I have seen members from previous trades who have done it, have to do it again because its not the proper course code! If the member can substantiate a PLAR, proceed with that, but prepare to go just in case.

So before you go off giving bad advice, and how it wasn't that way for you, look at the bigger picture; this member is better off doing this course now and not having to worry about it later, even if that means a slight delay in loading on their QL3.

Further, advising the member to "make a few calls" is unprofessional and may land the member in hot water with their chain. How on earth is that beneficial to the member? Remember people who read these forums may be new to the forces and not fully understand how to go through proper channels(not saying this is the case with this member) but advising the way you did is not going to solve any of the problems.

Just my  :2c:
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: danteh on June 26, 2018, 19:09:32
:facepalm: Don't give the member bad advice! It may not be a career course, but it certainly important.  :facepalm:

The MP branch has decided that members need this course prior to going on their QL5 course, so many members are finding themselves delayed in their QL5 because they didnt have BMQ-L. Not to mention they aren't deploying members without it. What is more important, waiting a few extra months to be course loaded, or getting to trade qualified, getting caught in the tempo we are in right now, units not wanting to let their members go away for BMQ-L, then rushing last minute to fill them on courses because their 5s are coming up? Id argue the former.

I have seen members grieve and lose this issue recently. I have seen members miss out on deployments because of this, denied 5s because of it, and I have seen members from previous trades who have done it, have to do it again because its not the proper course code! If the member can substantiate a PLAR, proceed with that, but prepare to go just in case.

So before you go off giving bad advice, and how it wasn't that way for you, look at the bigger picture; this member is better off doing this course now and not having to worry about it later, even if that means a slight delay in loading on their QL3.

Further, advising the member to "make a few calls" is unprofessional and may land the member in hot water with their chain. How on earth is that beneficial to the member? Remember people who read these forums may be new to the forces and not fully understand how to go through proper channels(not saying this is the case with this member) but advising the way you did is not going to solve any of the problems.

Just my  :2c:

Appreciate the reply. I am perfectly willing to go if my PLAR doesn't end up going through. I'd just rather not go a on a course I don't need because I have already done it and use those 3-4 weeks taking part in OJE.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: coyote489 on June 26, 2018, 19:12:11
Very good advice indeed. All you have said makes a lot more sense. I can just feel their pain was all, I am sure they were looking very forward to starting their 3s this summer. But yes I see what you are talking about. I only spoke out of surprise because They just graduated 39 new MPs in May with maybe 4-5 having completed their BMQ-L from previous service.

I’ll take your advice for next time though. Thanks.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: garb811 on June 26, 2018, 20:22:03
BMQ-L is a career course and before MP are eligible to be loaded on the QL3 they require it.  The MA has been waiving this requirement in order to keep production up in order to get the Branch out of the Red/Yellow and firmly into the Green.  By the book, all the MP who have graduated QL3 and who are lacking BMQ-L have still not reached their OFP, which is sort of a big deal since they technically shouldn't be off of the BTL and trooper142 has mentioned a few of the knock-ons from this, but there are more.

The Branch is finally in a position to start getting people into the proper stream and giving blanket waivers.  This is a good thing because trust me, the last thing you want as MP is to be "out in the wild" for a few months, or years, and then suddenly be back at the BMQ level.

Finally, the requirement for MP and MPO to follow the Army career development stream is NOT a MP Branch decision, but rather one that was made by Armed Forces Council.

Coyote489:  Many of your course are in for a shock when they report in as within the last week an unscheduled BMQ-L has been added for July, in addition to the one in August.  When folks report in there is a good chance that rather than them hitting the road in a big white patrol car, they will be hitting the road in order to attend BMQ-L.  If you haven't reported in yet, you just might be one of them.

IF anyone is in this position and want to submit a PLAR but are having difficulty in getting the assistance from your unit, PM me and I will let you know what to do and what you need to prove.  It is unlikely that someone is going to get a PLAR through between now and August though.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: ExRCDcpl on June 27, 2018, 00:04:38
Appreciate the reply. I am perfectly willing to go if my PLAR doesn't end up going through. I'd just rather not go a on a course I don't need because I have already done it and use those 3-4 weeks taking part in OJE.

Why?  OJE isn’t beneficial to you as it serves to teach you habits the academy probably won’t be fond of.

The only purpose OJE serves is to justify giving you a pay check.  I don’t mean to put you or any OJE’s down but the fact of th matter is at this point you’re nothing more than a liability the guys and girls on shift have to babysit.

If you can get your BMQ-L done you’d be a fool to try and put it off to do 3-4 weeks being an OJE.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: danteh on June 27, 2018, 00:08:32
Why?  OJE isn’t beneficial to you as it serves to teach you habits the academy probably won’t be fond of.

The only purpose OJE serves is to justify giving you a pay check.  I don’t mean to put you or any OJE’s down but the fact of th matter is at this point you’re nothing more than a liability the guys and girls on shift have to babysit.

If you can get your BMQ-L done you’d be a fool to try and put it off to do 3-4 weeks being an OJE.

It’s not about getting it done or not... If I’ve already done it there is no point in doing it again. Plus I work in a job where our OJEs aren’t allowed to do anything also, probably as close to the same situation as an MP, but you’d be surprised how much they learn just by watching from the sidelines.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: ExRCDcpl on June 27, 2018, 14:27:15
It’s not about getting it done or not... If I’ve already done it there is no point in doing it again. Plus I work in a job where our OJEs aren’t allowed to do anything also, probably as close to the same situation as an MP, but you’d be surprised how much they learn just by watching from the sidelines.

Well it would seem at this point I have to disagree with the comment “it’s not about getting it done.”  If Ottawa has decided you have to redo SQ then it most certainly is about “getting it done.”

I’m not saying OJE’s don’t learn a few things.  What I am saying, however, is what you learn may potentially cause you issues at the academy if you try and do something the way you saw on OJE vice what you were taught.

Believe me....as much as you don’t think you will revert back to what you learnt on OJE while at the academy......in my experience you will at least once and it may or may not cause issues.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: suprat on June 28, 2018, 14:48:27
I just received unofficial word that im on the SQ in Aug in Valcartier... kind of an unexpected curveball.
Guess that means 3s are in Jan.

Going to be odd being on course with kids right out of basic.
Play the game and check in the box then go back home to be in the way on shift in the det haha
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: WatchDog87 on July 09, 2018, 13:55:30
Is there anyone else on here that is loaded on the August 1st QL3?
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: DVH on July 10, 2018, 14:19:31
Is there anyone else on here that is loaded on the August 1st QL3?

Yes
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: WatchDog87 on July 16, 2018, 13:56:29
and so it begins... My Military Police career, first day of OJT is half over and I haven't pissed anyone off yet.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: WestCoastOntarian on August 09, 2018, 06:03:15
Cheers all,

Finally, after months of nothingness I heard back from the CAF today. My MCC informed me that my application was moving on to the background and criminal record checks (I had my Interview and Medical back in January).

Generally speaking, how long does this part of the process take?

Any confirmation from Garb811 that BII/MPAC is happening at the end of October? Would I likely make it to this stage in Oct. barring any snags in the current process? Thanks.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: garb811 on August 09, 2018, 11:35:52
Cheers all,

Finally, after months of nothingness I heard back from the CAF today. My MCC informed me that my application was moving on to the background and criminal record checks (I had my Interview and Medical back in January).

Generally speaking, how long does this part of the process take?

Any confirmation from Garb811 that BII/MPAC is happening at the end of October? Would I likely make it to this stage in Oct. barring any snags in the current process? Thanks.
The mid-end Oct MPOAC/BII is still on the books.

If your file has left the CFRC and it is the MP Selection Coordinator that is doing those checks, then yes, chances are that is when they are looking to have your file ready for the BII.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Sephur on August 10, 2018, 12:45:29
What a tease, the RC sends me an e-mail with an offer of employment and then one minute later, responds to it telling me to disregard that e-mail..
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: garb811 on August 10, 2018, 18:51:47
Well the good news is they still have your contact info!   :facepalm:
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Sephur on August 11, 2018, 01:12:32
So it turns out they need to make sure I'm a Canadian citizen and stuff like that. Any idea if this is truly the last step?
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Sephur on August 14, 2018, 14:07:37
Haha, good news is - the offer was official! Some documents were lost in translation between the RC and HQ. I'm all set to go :D
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: garb811 on August 14, 2018, 22:10:25
Congrats!
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Sephur on August 16, 2018, 11:52:31
Hey garb and other members of this sub,

I have asked the RC this question and is asking for contact information from CFLRS St. Jean to see if they can answer me; but I'm hoping you guys have some knowledge about a situation at hand.

The letter of employment states a start date of September 10th - My sister has her wedding on the 30th (Sunday). The RC informs me that the decision of allowing me to attend rests with the course staff, what are my chances of attending the wedding?
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: garb811 on August 16, 2018, 13:34:36
Hey garb and other members of this sub,

I have asked the RC this question and is asking for contact information from CFLRS St. Jean to see if they can answer me; but I'm hoping you guys have some knowledge about a situation at hand.

The letter of employment states a start date of September 10th - My sister has her wedding on the 30th (Sunday). The RC informs me that the decision of allowing me to attend rests with the course staff, what are my chances of attending the wedding?
You probably have a better chance of winning the lottery...

Not to be flippant, but it's basic training and the Indoc period, during which leave is only given for extraordinary circumstances, lasts for 4 weeks so you're still going to be within that period.

Unfortunately, missing important family occasions becomes a fact of life for us.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: BeyondTheNow on August 16, 2018, 14:32:41
Hey garb and other members of this sub,

I have asked the RC this question and is asking for contact information from CFLRS St. Jean to see if they can answer me; but I'm hoping you guys have some knowledge about a situation at hand.

The letter of employment states a start date of September 10th - My sister has her wedding on the 30th (Sunday). The RC informs me that the decision of allowing me to attend rests with the course staff, what are my chances of attending the wedding?

Adding to Garb’s comments, the info you were given is correct—it will be up to your course staff. But frankly, I wouldn’t bother asking. You can, of course, but don’t be surprised if you’re dismissed rather abruptly. A family wedding isn’t considered an extraordinary circumstance, even if it’s immediate family. Be aware there are many members who have missed several occasions, holidays, births, and funerals. If this is of particular concern for you, you still have time to reconsider your offer. The beginning of a member’s career can be very busy and there’s a very good possibility you will miss a lot. Now’s the time to remove yourself if you need to. Not mid-way through training...
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Sephur on August 17, 2018, 03:48:08
These make a lot of sense. Although I'm disappointed that this is how it is, it's very understandable - sucks that members miss funerals, I don't think I could do that if it's immediate family though.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: BeyondTheNow on August 17, 2018, 08:17:46
These make a lot of sense. Although I'm disappointed that this is how it is, it's very understandable - sucks that members miss funerals, I don't think I could do that if it's immediate family though.

Where immediate family (ie. parents, siblings, children) and deaths are concerned, your staff/chain of command will generally try to be as accommodating as possible in order to get the member home. If training is taking place, sometimes it just means the member won’t be able to complete that serial and will have to wait to complete it at a later date.

For example, while on course I missed the passing and funeral of my uncle. We were close, but he wasn’t immediate family. A friend of mine, although he missed the specific moment of passing of his mother, he was able to get home in time for the funeral. Another friend lost his father during training, but was able to get home as soon as he could. Sometimes not only when on course, but if a member is deployed/on tour geography can make it difficult for the member to get home quickly also. These are scenarios you have to be aware of when deciding to join.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: WatchDog87 on August 17, 2018, 09:28:53
There is really no harm in asking,  things have definitely softened up since I did BMQ.  There are folk here on my MP QL3 that recently finished BMQ and they put requests in to attend family birthdays during their indoc period and actually got the time off for it.  Absolutely BLEW my mind, as I am sure it will do the same to some of the crustier folks on here... but hey, it's a kinder gentler CF nowadays.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: bluruin on August 21, 2018, 10:29:27
Does anyone know if MPO is opening up for VOT candidates this year?
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: WatchDog87 on August 21, 2018, 11:45:23
VOT Message should be out with what trades are open for this F/Y.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: garb811 on August 21, 2018, 12:38:37
Does anyone know if MPO is opening up for VOT candidates this year?
Yes, see CANFORGEN 103/18 - CMP 051/18 141513Z JUN 18 2019/2020 OFFICER VOLUNTARY OCCUPATION TRANSFER PROGRAM (OVOTP)

Deadline for the file to be at the local PSO office is 12 Oct 18 with the completed file in Ottawa for 30 Nov 18.

Additional info:  e. FINAL SELECTION OF MOSID 00214 MPO CANDIDATES WILL DEPEND ON THE SUCCESSFUL PROCESSING THAT THE NOMINEES WILL UNDERGO AT THE MILITARY POLICE OFFICER ASSESSMENT CENTRE (MPOAC) WHICH IS COORDINATED BY THE MEMBERS UNIT, W/B/FPSO AN CFMPA. MEMBER NEED TO PROVIDE DND 2788, COPY OF DRIVERS LICENSE AND CIVILIAN DRIVERS ABSTRACT
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Sephur on August 30, 2018, 14:32:58
Garb, need a little insight on another situation now :c

I was not able to enroll into the CAF yesterday because of a recent laser eye surgery; they said my enrollment will be postponed until 4 months post surgery (13 Nov) earliest depending on BMOQ dates. In November, my interview and medical will also expire - which they said they'll do an updated interview and medical on the day I hand in my paperwork in regards to the surgery.

My question is towards my MPOAC score; the captain I spoke to at the RC said they'll inform the enrollment staff that I have been offered and accepted the position beforehand, and try to expedite my enrollment and shouldn't have a problem. Does the RC have that kind of power to keep me at the top of the enrollment list for MPO? Or will MPOAC scores be prioritized and other applicants that scored higher now be offered the position before me again?
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: garb811 on August 31, 2018, 16:52:10
Your MPOAC score is valid for two years.  The list is fluid though so if the next MPOAC runs and there are candidates who score higher than you did, they will be inserted into the list above you, which could impact you for the next time they do a selection because the Strategic Intake Plan fluctuates year to year as well.

Having said that, I don't really know what this means for you.  It is possible the Branch will ask for your enrollment to be deferred until Nov if you are an attractive enough candidate, or they could ask for the next candidate down the list in order to mee the SIP.  Best bet is to keep in contact with the CFRC...
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Applicant1990 on September 01, 2018, 02:36:30
Hello Everyone,

I'm applying for the reg force military police, and just passed by BII. I called my CFRC who informed me that the next selection date is mid September. I was just curious if anyone knows how competitive the trade is at the moment. Last i heard the trade was below its preferred manning level, is this still the case? 

Thanks for any info,
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: WestCoastOntarian on September 04, 2018, 17:54:09
Hi all,

I submitted Disclosure forms yesterday and I’m assuming all of my background checks have been completed (2 of my references let me know). How long until I hear about an invitation to MPAC? Is MPAC still happening at the end of October?

And if successful, how long after MPAC should one expect to hear yay or nay?

Any info is appreciated.

WCO.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: garb811 on September 04, 2018, 20:43:35
About 1/3 of the direct entry spots are still available this fiscal year.

The MPOAC/BIIs will still be going at the end of Oct, they are currently sourcing the assessors.

Ref how long until you find out if you're going?  Could be up to a couple of days before. 

Ref how long until you find out if you are acceptable or not?  Usually within a month or so of the BII.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Applicant1990 on September 04, 2018, 22:45:28
Thanks for the info Garb. I hope 1/3 is still a good amount of open spots.

Goodluck with your BII/mpoac WestCoast. 
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Sephur on September 05, 2018, 12:56:56
Hi all,

I submitted Disclosure forms yesterday and I’m assuming all of my background checks have been completed (2 of my references let me know). How long until I hear about an invitation to MPAC? Is MPAC still happening at the end of October?

And if successful, how long after MPAC should one expect to hear yay or nay?

Any info is appreciated.

WCO.

On completion of MPOAC, they informed my session that the CFRC will have the answer to relay back to you in approximately a week. Surely enough, I contacted them after a week and they did have the reply; so I suppose that should be the same for MPAC.
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: WestCoastOntarian on September 10, 2018, 18:08:50
Hi Grab, Applicant1990, and Sephur,

Thank you all for your information. Hope to hear good things soon!

Any recommendations other than sit and wait patiently?

All the best
Title: Re: MP recruiting 2017/18
Post by: Sephur on September 11, 2018, 12:13:36
Don't be like me - Keep up to date with your CFRC.

The only reason I didn't was because I was applying all over the place for law enforcement.

Upgrade yourself wherever possible: Education, training, community service (networking), the likes of that stuff. Why wait on only the CF to accept you when you can wait for multiple? :')