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Title: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: nordi on September 21, 2018, 08:56:31
Anyone applying for 2019 competition?
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: edlabonte on September 21, 2018, 13:31:42
Working on it.......
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: Ct155hawk on September 28, 2018, 23:26:03
i applied , ill do acs in november , applied for aerospace engineering
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: Schwartzie55 on September 28, 2018, 23:44:34
Applied Sept. 3 for AERE, have completed CFAT and qualified for all trades, medical and I trévire week 2 and three Ictober respectively.
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: Ladydash on October 13, 2018, 17:43:04
I've applied for UTP, to hopefully have an acceptance for May 2019. By that time I will have been in 7 years and a Cpl. If accepted, I would go to 2Lt, however, I am wondering how long I would be that rank until I am promoted to Lt. Does my previous time in count to a faster promotion?
Thank you for the help.
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: sidemount on October 13, 2018, 20:11:05
I've applied for UTP, to hopefully have an acceptance for May 2019. By that time I will have been in 7 years and a Cpl. If accepted, I would go to 2Lt, however, I am wondering how long I would be that rank until I am promoted to Lt. Does my previous time in count to a faster promotion?
Thank you for the help.
1 year for 2Lt to Lt and then 2 more years to Capt...no, your time as a Cpl does not speed up anything.
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: Lockwire on November 20, 2018, 03:44:22
If you are applying for UTP out of the area and get accepted, but you have a primary residence somewhere else, will you get a full posting message? Pay/PLD/HHT and buy-sell benefits?

Or can you rent out your primary residence and still buy @ the University but with no benefits?
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: sidemount on November 20, 2018, 20:42:02
If you are applying for UTP out of the area and get accepted, but you have a primary residence somewhere else, will you get a full posting message? Pay/PLD/HHT and buy-sell benefits?

Or can you rent out your primary residence and still buy @ the University but with no benefits?
It is a full cost posting.
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: nordi on December 04, 2018, 15:19:29
Since the deadlines were moved to a sooner date this year, I wonder if the offers will roll in a bit sooner as well.. anyone in the loop for that?
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: kelsosr on December 18, 2018, 14:04:14
I'm in the process of getting ready for 2019 application and have a question regarding the criteria for full-credit courses. Per DAOD 5002 a full credit course is: A full-credit course, e.g. six credit hours... however in the pilot entry standards under UTPNCM: (in Quebec, four (4) university courses of three (3) credits) is also acceptable. I am currently enrolled in two 3 credit courses at Athabasca, therefore can I assume that these 2 courses alone will not meet standards. If I complete four 3 credit courses will I meet standards even if not in Quebec?

I have an appointment with the BPSO in late January and will be able to confirm then, however the deadline for course application is before that, hence the reason for applying before the appointment (To get things on track ASAP). I have no problem completing four 3 credit courses if it's acceptable, however if its not and if anyone has concrete experience with this then I rather pull out of the 3 credit courses and find some 6 credit courses.

Has anyone been able to apply with only two 3 credit course, or perhaps 4 or more 3 credit courses?
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: sidemount on December 18, 2018, 19:37:40
The minimum to apply for UTPNCM is 4 3-credit hour(1 semester/half year) courses or 2 6-credit hour (2 semester/full year) courses. Total of 12 credit hours.

If you only have 2 3-credit hour courses, you don't meet the minimum standards to apply. You would need either 2 more half year or 1 full year course in order for your file to be processed.
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: DRC RENNUG on December 28, 2018, 20:38:23
Have any of you successfully applied for ACSO or AEC this year? Hoping you're all enjoying holiday leave!

Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: ridsteram on January 11, 2019, 03:36:38
What do you mean successfully applied? Like aircrew selection completed?
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: DRC RENNUG on January 16, 2019, 12:38:02
Successfully applied meaning, met all minimum requirements and had file sent to Ottawa for board selection
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: nordi on January 30, 2019, 15:57:51
Where can I find last year’s information on the amount applicants and selections per trade? I found the SIP report card, it doesn’t seem to show the number of applicants.

Thanks
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: Kraimer on February 08, 2019, 11:08:23
2017 Numbers found randomly on the DWAN 

 Program    Selected   Applicants
1.   CFR              134           188
2.   SCP                54             91
3.   UTPNCM         69            155
4.   IBDP               9             14
5.   PGT               55            134
6.   MLTP              3              30
7.   MMTP             5              15
8.   MPTP              1               2
9.   MDTP              1               4
10. SEELM             5               5

Of course these numbers change year to year, but I hope this helps give you a rough idea of the odds of acceptance for each program. Your PSO can probably find the exact numbers from last year.
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: nordi on February 08, 2019, 14:19:31
Thanks, I am currently verifying numbers for UTP CELE for last year, applicants vs selected.. hopefully I get something in the fol days.

Applied for CELE and Sigs.. really hope this year does it! Re-wrote my CFAT and increased my score quite a bit. *crosses fingers and toes*
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: 135Doris on February 21, 2019, 11:35:40
I have heard that some offer came out lately for SCP and CFR. Does anybody here got something?
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: nordi on February 22, 2019, 09:54:14
What did the canforgen say for SCP/CFR offers?
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: 135Doris on February 22, 2019, 10:03:13
What did the canforgen say for SCP/CFR offers?

For CFR :
•Selection board – Mid-Jan 19
•Offers – Mar/Apr 19

FOR SCP:
•Selection board – Feb 19
•Offers – Apr 19
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: nordi on February 22, 2019, 11:11:25
Ok makes sense. It looks like the very top candidates end up receiving offers very closely following selection boards. Not sure if those also include no-cost move offers.
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: Trackrl on March 01, 2019, 18:54:12
Have any of you successfully applied for ACSO or AEC this year? Hoping you're all enjoying holiday leave!

I applied for ACSO, AEC and MPO, I was successful at ACS, so it's just a waiting game now. Should I assume you've applied as well? I'm curious about the numbers, from what I gathered on my ACS in December, none of the other UTP applicants passed for ACSO. Anyone know how many ACS serials are run in a cycle?
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: DRC RENNUG on March 04, 2019, 13:18:34
Sorry for slow reply. I have applied for ACSO as well. Not sure how many selections they run in a year. I did my selection in November and was successful. Now just waiting for the board to sit, I believe the CANFORGEN says it sits next week?

Good luck to all of you
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: AVStech541 on March 09, 2019, 15:56:38
I applied for AERE, looks like I have some competition. I'm posted to Moose Jaw and got accepted to University of Regina, if I'm selected will I get posted to Regina or will I be expected to stay in Moose Jaw and commute 70 km each way?
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: Trackrl on March 12, 2019, 14:56:25
You will get a posting message for the university you applied to. Whether or not that is a cost move though is based on km. I think 50 km is the threshold so I believe you would also be entitled to a cost move but don't quote me on that.
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: TechCrmn on March 13, 2019, 00:26:01
I applied for ACSO, AEC and MPO, I was successful at ACS, so it's just a waiting game now. Should I assume you've applied as well? I'm curious about the numbers, from what I gathered on my ACS in December, none of the other UTP applicants passed for ACSO. Anyone know how many ACS serials are run in a cycle?

Hey,

I applied for ACSO as well but through CEOTP not UTP. I have also been wondering how many applicants are out there and how many ACSOs they will be accepting this year through NCM commissioning programs. I guess we will all find out soon enough, let me know if you guys here anything!
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: K1tesurf on March 13, 2019, 06:14:39
I applied pilot through both utp and ceotp. Any others out there? Good luck to all.
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: DRC RENNUG on March 13, 2019, 10:16:24
ACSO & AEC
UTPNCM

Anyone aware if the boards are actually sitting this week as per the CANFORGEN?

Take care
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: sidemount on March 13, 2019, 11:48:18
If past years are any indication of what will happen this year I will say to be patient.

Offers in the May time frame are quite normal. End of March/first of April would be crazy fast for them.

To keep it in perspective, I received my offer in June of my competition year.

The waiting game sucks, but stand by to wait a bit longer.
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: Trackrl on March 13, 2019, 13:20:36
If you search SIP ACSO or SIP AEC on the defence network home page, you can see the strategic intake plan with the numbers expected for each year. There are 2 ACSO and 4 AEC spots for UTPNCM. I'm not sure about CEOTP though.
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: armouredguy23 on March 16, 2019, 00:59:04
Hey guys, just want to give you my advice.

I was accepted last year for the 2018 competition as Log O. All i can say is stay on top of your crap and if you have a good CoC, get them to check in every once in a while, especially when you're approaching the deadline for decisions.

Myself and at least one other case from my squadron had their files lost last year and if we had not been on top of our files, we would have missed the deadlines and not been accepted. By inquiring, we were able to re-send our files just in time for the decision to be made and we both made it in the program.

That's all i have to say.

Cheers.
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: DRC RENNUG on March 17, 2019, 10:14:17
Thanks for the heads up. I've had multiple issues with my file last year and again this year.

Hopefully everything made it to the boards this year.

Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: K1tesurf on March 20, 2019, 09:21:53
Jeez...there are either not very many applicants this year, or people are being very quiet. Let’s hope it was the first :)
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: Trackrl on March 20, 2019, 13:45:33
Yeah I sure hope that's the case. I also hope they can get messages out as early as possible this year. I'm now sitting on a posting message for this aps, one last F you from my current trade. Not an ideal situation arranging for a move across the country without knowing if I'm actually going or not.
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: TechCrmn on March 20, 2019, 14:12:01
Jeez...there are either not very many applicants this year, or people are being very quiet. Let’s hope it was the first :)

A few members at my unit that had applied for CFR received offers a few weeks ago. Someone else who had applied for the Special Commissioning Plan (SCP) received an offer at the beginning of this week. I don't know of anyone that has heard back from CEOTP or UTP (myself included) as of yet. I know the SCP solicitation msg had said the board was going to sit mid-Feb with offers NLT April. The CEOTP msg said board mid-Mar with offers NLT April. I'm not sure if this means by the beginning or end of April, but I'm hoping for the latter. If it is end April, and the CEOTP/UTP boards take the same amount of time from board-to-offer as the SCP did, then we might be waiting until mid April for a offer :( Hopefully though, the msg means the beginning of April and we all hear back within the next two weeks :)

If anyone hears anything, let us know!
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: 2Happy on March 20, 2019, 20:32:45
Good day everyone,
Here's some info I have for you that might help you with the process. This is info I gather from different person so it might not be 100% right but close.

First, they are using a new program this year for selection so files shouldn't be lost like it happen last year.
Second, the dates has been moved forward this year since they are using a new program and they wanted to do it quickly this year, however, they are a little bit late on the timing they gave.
Also, some CFR offers came out couple weeks ago. I know some SCP offers came out this week for some trade. From what I've gather, offers for UTP-NCM and CEOTP still in the competition list. So I don't think any offers came out for that yet. More to come.

Cheers
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: nordi on March 21, 2019, 22:50:09
Additional information:

You HAVE to apply to RMC SEPARATELY. Applying to UTPNCM does not mean you are automatically accepted to RMC. You have to treat RMC like any other university you applied for - they require an application just like any uni. In the last couple years, candidates were arriving at RMC on their IPS and realizing (mid july by then) that they have never been accepted into RMC to begin with.
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: Trackrl on March 21, 2019, 23:17:37
Additional information:

You HAVE to apply to RMC SEPARATELY. Applying to UTPNCM does not mean you are automatically accepted to RMC. You have to treat RMC like any other university you applied for - they require an application just like any uni. In the last couple years, candidates were arriving at RMC on their IPS and realizing (mid july by then) that they have never been accepted into RMC to begin with.

The utpncm offer comes with the place and program of study, how could they have wound up at RMC if they never applied there? They would have had a posting message to whatever university they did apply to. That was more likely a mistake by dpmg with the offer.
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: nordi on March 22, 2019, 19:55:57
The utpncm offer comes with the place and program of study, how could they have wound up at RMC if they never applied there? They would have had a posting message to whatever university they did apply to. That was more likely a mistake by dpmg with the offer.

Good point, I meant for those who selected RMC as one of their universities to attend for UTPNCM. So this info only applies for people who selected RMC as a choice, and/or received an offer to study at RMC. On the 2018 UTPNCM application, there was a checkbox confirming whether or not the applicant wishes to attend RMC. Some BPSO's had the impression that ticking that box meant that the UTPNCM process would simply wedge that applicant into a spot at RMC. This is incorrect, RMC has nothing to do with the UTPNCM process.
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: Trackrl on March 25, 2019, 16:31:54
Ah OK, that makes sense. They changed the whole application form this year. At one time a UTPNCM application was an automatic application to RMC. From what my BPSO told me they don't care as much as they used too if you attend RMC or not. They'd rather you stay in your geographical area to avoid a cost move.
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: nordi on March 29, 2019, 15:12:34
There is one confirmed SCP and one CFR from 8 Wing Trenton, but haven't heard anything on UTPNCM offers yet.. Anyone hear anything?
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: 2Happy on March 30, 2019, 13:54:01
There is one confirmed SCP and one CFR from 8 Wing Trenton, but haven't heard anything on UTPNCM offers yet.. Anyone hear anything?

I've saw couple SCP offers within the last two weeks but nothing yet for UTPNCM. However, I don't know anyone who applied for UTP except for myself...

Cheers
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: DRC RENNUG on April 04, 2019, 19:43:32
8 WPSO Office sent out an email to the CCLK's on Tuesday stating offers will begin to come out. It didn't have any dates attached to it but said that offers would be sent direct to the member and the +Unit accounts. 
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: K1tesurf on April 05, 2019, 08:24:10
Was away from work for a few weeks...seen the post last night that msgs were beginning to be drafted and got really excited to check my email this morning. There was nothing there yet though :( Good luck everyone!
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: nordi on April 05, 2019, 10:21:38
Yeah no word on any received offer yet.. good luck
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: TechCrmn on April 05, 2019, 10:29:52
Yea nothing here yet either, hopefully we all hear something soon!
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: Trackrl on April 05, 2019, 10:32:40
I'm off to the field for the next two months, was hoping to hear back by now but hopefully I'll have good news from the field OR. Good luck everyone!
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: nordi on April 05, 2019, 16:30:18
Just got my UTPNCM offer today for CELE, going to RMC in September! Still can't believe it! Good luck to you guys!
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: Trackrl on April 05, 2019, 16:34:05
Nice! Messages are rolling out, congrats!
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: K1tesurf on April 05, 2019, 16:39:06
Just got my UTPNCM offer today for CELE, going to RMC in September! Still can't believe it! Good luck to you guys!

Congrats! So you received via official channel? Did the msg get emailed directly to you?

Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: nordi on April 05, 2019, 19:56:46
I got an email directly from them, with an attached pdf containing offer.
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: TechCrmn on April 06, 2019, 09:44:29
Just got my UTPNCM offer today for CELE, going to RMC in September! Still can't believe it! Good luck to you guys!

Congrats! Hopefully we will hear something next week!
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: AVStech541 on April 06, 2019, 12:26:02
Just got my UTPNCM offer today for CELE, going to RMC in September! Still can't believe it! Good luck to you guys!

Congrats! When I read your post I ran back into work to see if my offer for AERE came in, but nothing yet. My CoC told me offers are supposed to come out next week, and I'm glad they're sending them early this year. Even if I'm not selected, it will be nice to know instead of waiting another two months to find out.
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: nordi on April 08, 2019, 08:42:51
Thanks!

It looks like the offers should roll out this week. Good luck!
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: TechCrmn on April 08, 2019, 09:00:12
Thanks!

It looks like the offers should roll out this week. Good luck!

Yea you too, fingers crossed!
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: K1tesurf on April 08, 2019, 10:49:59
My refresh finger is already sore
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: TechCrmn on April 08, 2019, 12:05:20
My refresh finger is already sore

Haha...do you mean for your email box? Outlook should deliver messages almost instantly.
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: K1tesurf on April 08, 2019, 12:10:26
Haha I know. it was mostly a joke to indicate Im basically sitting here waiting for an offer. There is a page for msg traffic that I have refreshed more times today then ever in my life though ha.
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: TechCrmn on April 08, 2019, 12:18:13
Haha I know. it was mostly a joke to indicate Im basically sitting here waiting for an offer. There is a page for msg traffic that I have refreshed more times today then ever in my life though ha.

Yea I hear ya! So on that msg page(if ACIMS) you should be able to go to the top and set an alert. It will send you an email whenever any new messages are added to the list, that way all you need to do is watch your email lol
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: DRC RENNUG on April 08, 2019, 13:19:52
What is the ACIMS page? Other than Nordi has anyone heard of others offers coming through? Good luck to everyone
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: TechCrmn on April 08, 2019, 13:23:20
Yea I hear ya! So on that msg page(if ACIMS) you should be able to go to the top and set an alert. It will send you an email whenever any new messages are added to the list, that way all you need to do is watch your email lol

ACIMS is a web based organizational tool similar to share point, msgs addressed to personal in the unit end up in a group box on ACIMS. A previous poster did say that they are sending msgs directly to members so checking both might be overkill anyway.
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: K1tesurf on April 08, 2019, 13:29:55
Yeah the email is good..but its nice to keep track of the traffic to see if other peoples messages are coming out. I haven't seen any today.
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: Trackrl on April 08, 2019, 15:30:33
I got an offer for ACSO today, it was sent to my dwan account as well. Good luck to you all!
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: TechCrmn on April 08, 2019, 15:54:29
I got an offer for ACSO today, it was sent to my dwan account as well. Good luck to you all!

Congrats! Did you apply for CEOTP or UTPNCM? or both?
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: nordi on April 08, 2019, 16:39:29
I got an offer for ACSO today, it was sent to my dwan account as well. Good luck to you all!

Congratulations! What school?
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: DRC RENNUG on April 08, 2019, 17:02:11
Got an offer today for AEC (2nd choice) UT, Civ School, 2nd year applying to the program. Best of luck to the rest of you!
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: Trackrl on April 08, 2019, 20:52:24
Congratulations! What school?

Thanks! University of Alberta, congrats to you as well
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: JKirke on April 09, 2019, 15:00:23
I am going into the forces with a degree and have a question for those of you that applied through SCP, what would you suggest should be the average time of service before applying for this?

I know I could have went DEO, however I was under the impression from the recruitment office that the DEO route would have been a long wait for myself.

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: K1tesurf on April 10, 2019, 10:19:46
You need to be fully trained in your trade. Depending on the trade it could be 2-5 years.
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: MickNotMac on April 11, 2019, 22:01:24
I got my offer for HCA last Friday!  I sent the acceptance email, but still haven't heard anything back.  Do they usually acknowledge that they've received your acceptance?

Thanks
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: nordi on April 11, 2019, 23:46:11
Havent heard back either, i think they will send something..
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: sidemount on April 12, 2019, 09:03:13
I got my offer for HCA last Friday!  I sent the acceptance email, but still haven't heard anything back.  Do they usually acknowledge that they've received your acceptance?

Thanks
You likely won't hear anything until your posting message shows up (either geographical or to base BTL/ULO)
They are slowly trickling out but a few weeks its likely your wait time.
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: nordi on April 15, 2019, 10:53:57
Any one here receive a new offer for terms of service (TOS)? I haven't been contacted yet by DMCA-4.
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: Trackrl on April 15, 2019, 11:46:23
Any one here receive a new offer for terms of service (TOS)? I haven't been contacted yet by DMCA-4.

You should talk to your OR and get your chief clerk to sort it out. They should be able to get you the TOS then they have to send a copy to the commissioning clerk.
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: nordi on April 15, 2019, 13:35:14
You should talk to your OR and get your chief clerk to sort it out. They should be able to get you the TOS then they have to send a copy to the commissioning clerk.

I've been to my OR and they sent me back saying that I dont need a TOS, which doesnt make sense because my current TOS dont even cover my schooling.
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: Trackrl on April 15, 2019, 13:58:03
I've been to my OR and they sent me back saying that I dont need a TOS, which doesnt make sense because my current TOS dont even cover my schooling.

I would be insistent, you definitely do need new TOS to cover your obligitory service period. I believe May 15 is the deadline to send a copy to the commissioning clerk, that is mine anyway. If you don't have a direct line to the chief clerk, go through your chain and show them the part of the utp offer that says you need new TOS.
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: pylon on April 15, 2019, 15:34:11
It could be worth contacting the Terms of Service clerk at your Base/Wing OR and speaking with them. Congrats on the offer and good luck.
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: nordi on April 16, 2019, 14:49:48
Thanks for the advice, i returned with the UTPNCM canforgen in hand and the new TOS was just sent up my COC.'

Here is the ref they found: Ref: DOAD 5002-9 3.9 (7)
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: edlabonte on April 25, 2019, 20:44:37
I got my offer for ACSO. I'm looking forward to my second military career.
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: Ladydash on April 26, 2019, 12:13:45
Those who applied UTP, any receive offers for Log O or PSO yet? Trying to patiently wait.
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: misratah500 on April 29, 2019, 20:45:23
I got accepted last year for MARS/NWO and just finished first year. I can already tell i'm gonna hate this trade. has anyone sucessfully switched trades while going through school? I think its a VOT-U
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: sidemount on April 30, 2019, 21:28:10
I got accepted last year for MARS/NWO and just finished first year. I can already tell i'm gonna hate this trade. has anyone sucessfully switched trades while going through school? I think its a VOT-U
Yes, I did it this year. Although I finished school and was on dp 1.2. After sustaining a back injury on course and some significant rehab I decided to switch it up.  Its just the Officer VOT-U process, Which I believe you can apply for in your last 2 years of school. Quite straight forward but its only once a year selection unlike NCMs every 3 months.
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: Thermal on May 01, 2019, 18:09:29
I got accepted last year for MARS/NWO and just finished first year. I can already tell i'm gonna hate this trade. has anyone sucessfully switched trades while going through school? I think its a VOT-U

Yes, it's called VOT-U. As far as I know, you are eligible to apply after you have successfully completed your BMOQ (mod 1 & mod 2) if you don't already have it. Also, you should be doing fine in your school (as in you are not failing classes). The process is just like any other VOT but you can only do it once a year. I did VOT-U in September which was my 2nd year of university, and PSO interview was done in October. The offer usually starts to roll out starting in February of the following year, and you could be waiting for the offer up to May or even June (which was my case). The best thing is you talk to your PSO for more up to date information if you are serious about applying for VOT-U. I hope this helped and good luck!
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: sidemount on May 02, 2019, 15:34:07
So I was incorrect about being in the final 2 years of study, that was for the special vot-u that just finished.

See the just released CANFORGEN on the subject: 055/19
That should answer your questions.
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: edlabonte on May 06, 2019, 23:45:15
Anybody got a posting message yet?
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: nordi on May 12, 2019, 18:57:58
No posting message yet, I am awaiting for a cost move.
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: Trackrl on May 14, 2019, 15:31:21
I got my offer for ACSO. I'm looking forward to my second military career.

Congrats! Are you doing the full four years of school? If so we may end up on the same course.
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: edlabonte on May 14, 2019, 19:34:38
Congrats! Are you doing the full four years of school? If so we may end up on the same course.

I have 2.5 years of school. 2022 I should be on deck for the ACSO course.
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: nordi on May 17, 2019, 16:47:03
Congrats to all who have been accepted, just got my posting message, see you at RMC Otter Sqn!
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: mpfil on May 23, 2019, 08:20:18
I got my offer for PSO a few weeks ago but I am still waiting for a posting message. Anyone here still waiting for their posting message? I'm a bit nervous.
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: Trackrl on May 23, 2019, 09:32:48
I got my offer for PSO a few weeks ago but I am still waiting for a posting message. Anyone here still waiting for their posting message? I'm a bit nervous.

I still don't have mine either, I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't come until sometime in June.
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: nordi on May 23, 2019, 22:14:13
Cost moves take priority on posting messages, if you are no cost, you will get it later.
Title: Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2019
Post by: stoker dave on June 21, 2019, 15:12:07
I got accepted last year for MARS/NWO and just finished first year. I can already tell i'm gonna hate this trade.

That is, I am sure, a frustrating situation.

Please let me first point out that as an officer being an NWO is a career and profession; not a trade.  It is just semantics, but words matter.

What exactly do you hate?  Have you been to sea on a ship?  Do you hate going to sea?  Or is it what you are studying that is what you dislike?  If you can be a bit more specific maybe we can help.  I will suggest that there are huge differences between (A) what you study at school (B) being in school  (C) MARS/NWO training and (D) a career as a MARS/NWO. 

If being in the navy and being an NWO is really not for you, take action right away to make the necessary changes.  You do not want to live your life doing something you don't like and don't want to do.  That is in nobody's best interest.