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Title: Occupational Transfer to MP
Post by: X-mo-1979 on April 02, 2008, 17:39:25
Just to start I have searched most topic's in reference to MP/Military police/police to try and find an answer to my question to no avail.


Anyone who has read some of my post's knows I have been seeking other employment opportunities in the past little while,not due to bitterness,just for a change of pace.Something new.I have looked into the RCMP however would like to also consider the MP branch.

My main question is what training you must have to become an MP prior to applying.As a reg force combat arm's guy It is not feasible to quit the army to do a police foundation's course.I have a wife and children to support and could not take the financial hit at this time.Having said that,I can deal with correspondence courses over the next little while to work towards the Police foundations course found at Algonquin college in Pembroke.

The problem lies where the program call's for a portion of it to be done at the campus (hand's on application I guess) which I cannot take time off work to do.

I was talking to a supply guy in Texas during EX and he had mentioned he only had a couple more courses to complete and that the MP branch would accept him with a few college credit courses he had done.Now I rarely believe what I hear through the rumour mill so I figured I would pose the question here prior to approaching the BPSO.

So how does a regular force guy OT to MP? What previous training would I need?Or any?
Right now it seems impossible for me to go MP unless I get this course.
Title: Re: Occupational Transfer to MP
Post by: jim303 on April 10, 2008, 04:40:24
Hi,

my info is dated back to early 2000, but I was talking to an MP I know and he did the remuster from 031, no prequal's, just a good service record and clean civvie criminal record. You might try posting one of the MP forums to see about some first hand, and more recent experience.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Occupational Transfer to MP
Post by: Yrys on April 10, 2008, 05:00:22
You might try posting one of the MP forums to see about some first hand, and more recent experience.

If you're refering to others websites, it may be usefull for him that you post which ones...
Title: Re: Occupational Transfer to MP
Post by: jim303 on April 10, 2008, 05:26:18
If you're refering to others websites, it may be usefull for him that you post which ones...

Sorry, I should have been clearer..
I was thinking more along the lines of the MP Branch forum and a couple of others here on Army.ca.
There was an MP site, I think it was called 'The Guardhouse' on the web as well that might be helpful.

Cheers!

PS: Are you 031? I served in the Regimental Police section under some MP's eons ago, I am unsure if they even still have them, been out since 2001.
And the RCMP are not all that they are portrayed to be, like the army they get more than their share of idiots, maybe more so, spent almost a decade there.
Title: Re: Occupational Transfer to MP
Post by: FastEddy on April 10, 2008, 08:29:48



Anyone who has read some of my post's knows I have been seeking other employment opportunities in the past little while,not due to bitterness,just for a change of pace.Something new.I have looked into the RCMP however would like to also consider the MP branch.






X-mo-1979,  Regardless of any prerequisites you might require or the nature of their acquirement. A few other points and questions have come to mind.

It would appear you have spent some considerable time in the Forces and in particular the Combat Arms Branch.  In what Rank or Capacity or Specialization, you seem to have not mentioned. These points might assist Career MP's or LEO's in offering advice or suggestions in regard to your plans.

The Occupation you suggest, wether the Military Police or a Civilian Agency usually is not chosen on a whim or a change of pace or something new or different. That is not to say that one cannot come from a completely different line of occupation and not do well and usually make it a life time Career. However, in most of those cases, the applicants almost always had some inkling or relative or disire in that  direction.

You also should consider that maybe you are not just cut out for this profession, I can assure you, that factor will make or break you. I would suggest you gather a great deal of information from MP and LEO personnel in regard to all aspects of their Occupation and Lives before you decide to enter into Law Enforcement either Civilian or Military.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Occupational Transfer to MP
Post by: jim303 on April 10, 2008, 22:25:22



X-mo-1979,  Regardless of any prerequisites you might require or the nature of their acquirement. A few other points and questions have come to mind.

It would appear you have spent some considerable time in the Forces and in particular the Combat Arms Branch.  In what Rank or Capacity or Specialization, you seem to have not mentioned. These points might assist Career MP's or LEO's in offering advice or suggestions in regard to your plans.

The Occupation you suggest, wether the Military Police or a Civilian Agency usually is not chosen on a whim or a change of pace or something new or different. That is not to say that one cannot come from a completely different line of occupation and not do well and usually make it a life time Career. However, in most of those cases, the applicants almost always had some inkling or relative or disire in that  direction.

You also should consider that maybe you are not just cut out for this profession, I can assure you, that factor will make or break you. I would suggest you gather a great deal of information from MP and LEO personnel in regard to all aspects of their Occupation and Lives before you decide to enter into Law Enforcement either Civilian or Military.

Cheers.

Well said Fast Eddy!
Title: Re: Occupational Transfer to MP
Post by: X-mo-1979 on April 16, 2008, 02:51:30

It would appear you have spent some considerable time in the Forces and in particular the Combat Arms Branch.  In what Rank or Capacity or Specialization, you seem to have not mentioned. These points might assist Career MP's or LEO's in offering advice or suggestions in regard to your plans.
Cheers.


7 years
Mcpl
Combat trade.
Title: Re: Occupational Transfer to MP
Post by: Breacher41 on April 16, 2008, 02:54:59
X-mo are you RegF or PRes? Sorry, a little SLOOOOW today.

Anyways, if you're PRes, take a look at the RCMP Auxiliary Constable program in your area, or Municipal Reserve Constable programs. It's an intro to police work for citizens who want to help out and make a difference in their community. You get basic training in Criminal Code, UoF, Powers of Arrest and other valuable training. It would give you a taste of what LEO would do, not all but a taste, and if it still appeals to you, maybe then you can make the change?

Just a suggestion :)
Title: Re: Occupational Transfer to MP
Post by: MapleLeaf4Evr on April 17, 2008, 18:39:17
To answer your question, X-mo, for any remusters to MP, whether from regular force or reserve, the educational requirement is:

- two full credit college/university courses that relate to policing, or

- a two year law/security diploma

I recently OT'ed to MP from another trade with 2 and a half years of university but no law/security course.  By all means, if you have an interest in being an MP, grab those two courses and see your BPSO.  After applying, during the military police assessment centre, you are given a very good job profile of an MP.  As well, you can speak to your local MP detachment about doing a ride along to see if this is what you want to do.  Cheers  :cdn:
Title: Re: Occupational Transfer to MP
Post by: X-mo-1979 on April 17, 2008, 20:32:40
X-mo are you RegF or PRes? Sorry, a little SLOOOOW today.


I'm Reg force.
Many of my family have/are been into policing.
To answer your question, X-mo, for any remusters to MP, whether from regular force or reserve, the educational requirement is:

- two full credit college/university courses that relate to policing, or

- a two year law/security diploma

I recently OT'ed to MP from another trade with 2 and a half years of university but no law/security course.  By all means, if you have an interest in being an MP, grab those two courses and see your BPSO.  After applying, during the military police assessment centre, you are given a very good job profile of an MP.  As well, you can speak to your local MP detachment about doing a ride along to see if this is what you want to do.  Cheers  :cdn:

Bang on man.That's what I was looking for.As for "full credit courses" would that be like a semester of criminology,or Canadian law etc?
Good suggestion on the ride along.
Title: Re: Occupational Transfer to MP
Post by: Breacher41 on April 17, 2008, 20:41:22
Hey X-mo sorry like I said slow day that day. Full credit coursed are 3 credit courses. A university or college course is typically 3 credit hours, which is a full credit course. Some maybe 4 but Crim are all 3 credit courses. Hope that helps.
Title: MP OT's
Post by: grayman on January 23, 2009, 22:39:51
Quick question's for MP OT's

In your opinions how long does it take to get your rank back, if at all?
Do PER/PDR's from your previous trade have any weight, or is it start from scratch, at the bottom of the barrel again?
I've heard average time to get your fives is around 18 months is that true?
How difficult is it to get stuff like invest courses and the like?
Or is it like every other trade and get in line and do your time?
Any other tidbits of info I should know as an OT would be appreciated

Questions are geared more towards OT's and their experience but anybody with any info please chime in.
Its my first and hopefully last OT so I have a boat load of questions.
Thanx
Title: Re: MP OT's
Post by: garb811 on January 24, 2009, 20:03:43
Not a MP OT but I've had a ton work for me so...

In your opinions how long does it take to get your rank back, if at all?
Most OTs do very well WRT promotion to their former rank because they already have the military ethos and leadership skills, as long as they can master the technical side of the trade.
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Do PER/PDR's from your previous trade have any weight, or is it start from scratch, at the bottom of the barrel again?
Hmm...good question, don't have a clue and didn't really think about it before now. 
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I've heard average time to get your fives is around 18 months is that true?
There is no "maximum time to get re-qualified to your former level".  You get in line with the rest of the folks.
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How difficult is it to get stuff like invest courses and the like?
If all things are equal and a non-OT and OT are in the running for a course in their first couple of years, I tend to look at OTs first for courses because they are more "settled" compared to a direct entry.  After 2 years or so though, you're a MP just like any other.
Title: Re: MP OT's
Post by: George Wallace on January 24, 2009, 20:24:33
Ref PDRs/PERs.  These are not supposed to be kept by the Unit for more than a year.  You have your copies in your "Shadow File" at home and a copy in your Pers file (which is not accessable by just anyone), but the unit is not supposed to keep a record of your PER.  Your next supervisor has no right to see your PER from last year.  Your next supervisor, however, may inherit your past twelve months of PDRs, in order to have some input as to how to write up your next PER.
Title: Re: MP OT's
Post by: garb811 on January 25, 2009, 11:52:56
We have to keep PDRs for 3 years, so those would be available but have no bearing on the current year's PER.  You're 100% right about the PERs at the local level but what I'm wondering about is if an Inf PER would be viewed by an MP board if it was within the three year window?
Title: Re: MP OT's
Post by: George Wallace on January 25, 2009, 12:43:56
................evel but what I'm wondering about is if an Inf PER would be viewed by an MP board if it was within the three year window?

I think that that would be "highly improper".
Title: Some question about transfer MP and Require Cours
Post by: armymen on February 19, 2009, 11:17:16
I will have 4 years soon in june, did reserve infantry, now im a MSEop reg forces.
I wonder, I know i have no choice to have a cours in law to transfer MP right.
So i wonder i know they are in realy big demande for MP, is there a way i can make the army pay for a law cours ? or if i want to do that without lost my car and house, for payment, quit the army, take a cours, then join again ?
What is your suggestion or advice.
thanks in advance
Title: Re: Some question about transfer MP and Require Cours
Post by: vandoos283 on February 19, 2009, 12:14:10
Hi, there is a couple of posts which indicate some of your options, for my own experience, I remustered about 9 years ago from the Infantry, at the time they were no requirement for law or any other related courses. You can also see your BPSO, he will have all the answers for you, the road for becoming an MP might be long however, it is worth it, good luck.
Title: Re: Some question about transfer MP and Require Cours
Post by: garb811 on February 19, 2009, 21:52:19
As it stands right now, OTs do not require the full diploma, just two "full" courses in a related subject.
Title: Re: Some question about transfer MP and Require Cours
Post by: armymen on March 25, 2009, 21:32:48
 :camo:
Somebody i know tell me something about if somebody want to go MP and i dont have a cours, they still gonna accept, but give me the cours ? is that true ?
Title: Re: Some question about transfer MP and Require Cours
Post by: AA13 on April 08, 2009, 23:30:24
You will no longer require the course,but will require a Canadian HS Diploma, apparently GED does not count.
Title: Re: Some question about transfer MP and Require Cours
Post by: armymen on April 09, 2009, 09:47:05
That good, you mean Hi school diploma ?
I have that ;), Somebody know when the rule will change ?
Title: Re: Some question about transfer MP and Require Cours
Post by: AA13 on April 09, 2009, 10:55:55
Yes High School Diploma, it was supposedly to change as of April 1st. Call a BPSO and confirm. If you get told the old standard, start investigating..... I would start at the MP Academy in Borden.
Title: Re: Some question about transfer MP and Require Cours
Post by: armymen on April 09, 2009, 11:59:55
a ok thanks i will check
I might wait a bit before, i du for my CPL soon, like in a month, so i will wait for that, that might help me, also, i will wait to be comon Law with my girl friend, in case i get posted after, i will like to stay here, because i just bought the house last years, and like it in gagetown. So at least if im comon law, if i get posted will be easyer.
Well thanks everybody ;)
I will try in September
Title: Re: Some question about transfer MP and Require Cours
Post by: RandomAVS on May 23, 2009, 20:10:29
From what Ive been hearing from the MPs in Borden they've dropped the pre-req of the 2 year course and you do a 6 month course now.

But in saying that a friend is trying to remuster and the BPSO in Borden told him that he needs the course. This conflicts with what Ive been told by a school instructor there though, so I would definitely check into things.

From experience admin can be a bit on the slack side on occasions.
Title: Going Infantry to MP
Post by: thehare on May 22, 2010, 19:12:56
        Hello everyone, before I ask my question I would like to say sorry if this is posted already (I took a quick scan of the forum but really didn't find what I was looking for).

        I was wondering if it was possible to join the Military Police through the Infantry (or any other trade) without the required college diploma. The reason I am asking is because my Godfather was able to do just this with 4 years of service with the Navy (be it though he has been in the Military for over 25 years now). The reason for joining Infantry first is just the plain interest of the overall job and unique experiences involved with the trade.

      Also, (just for the sake of argument) that I was able to tansfer to the MP's without a diploma, would that hinder my ability for promotions or different positions.

     On a side note since I am already writing, I heard the military payed for some forms of education, would they pay for the required diploma if I was in the Infantry if I showed interest in transferring to the MP's or if I needed it would I have to on my own dime (not that I have a problem with that I am just wondering).


Thanks
Title: Re: Going Infantry to MP
Post by: Petamocto on May 22, 2010, 19:26:20
In my opinion, you're thinking too far ahead.

It is great to plan for the future, but the kind of thing you are contemplating has the potential to fail because you don't exactly just waltz right through Infantry training like you would training for Wal-Mart.

You are in for some significant challenges and if your mind isn't in it (that you want to be an Infanteer) you may be setting yourself up for failure by not being as willing to endure the misery like the other guys on the course.
Title: Re: Going Infantry to MP
Post by: mariomike on May 22, 2010, 19:33:33
I was wondering if it was possible to join the Military Police through the Infantry (or any other trade) without the required college diploma.

Topic: "Occupational Transfer to MP":
http://forums.milnet.ca/forums/index.php/topic,72615.msg696080.html#msg696080

Topic: "OT to MP (Occupation Transfer)":
http://forums.milnet.ca/forums/index.php/topic,40426.msg343462.html#msg343462

Topic: "MP OT's":
http://forums.milnet.ca/forums/index.php/topic,83427.msg813181.html#msg813181

Hare, did you see this? Just in case you did not:
Police Foundations: "Distance Education":
All but three (3) courses for the two-year Police Foundations Diploma Program are offered through Distance Education.  The three remaining courses, PFP1000, PFP4091 and PFP4097 will have to be completed on campus at Algonquin College.":
http://www.algonquincollege.com/distance/programs_courses/diploma/police_foundations.html

Title: Re: Going Infantry to MP
Post by: Wilshire Blvd. on May 22, 2010, 19:56:44
I asked my recruiting centre the same questions last year. I was told that subsidized education was not available for the police foundations diploma. Occupational transfer is available to RegF members who have two full credit college/university courses that relate to policing (criminology, psych, soc, law, etc).
Title: Re: Going Infantry to MP
Post by: thehare on May 22, 2010, 20:32:19
First off I would like to thank everyone for the quick replies.

In my opinion, you're thinking too far ahead.

It is great to plan for the future, but the kind of thing you are contemplating has the potential to fail because you don't exactly just waltz right through Infantry training like you would training for Wal-Mart.

You are in for some significant challenges and if your mind isn't in it (that you want to be an Infanteer) you may be setting yourself up for failure by not being as willing to endure the misery like the other guys on the course.

In regards with this comment, the reason I posted this comment is because I would love a career in either of these trades and I realize that I would not be able to waltz through either of the training these trades offer. I would just like the chance to serve in both of these trades and I am just trying to set myself up so that I might get the chance to reach this goal.

Again thank you all for your replies.
Title: Re: Going Infantry to MP
Post by: Petamocto on May 23, 2010, 00:26:24
If your heart is in it, then you will be successful.  Good luck with your adventures.
Title: Remuster to MP from Infantry
Post by: Grunt on January 20, 2013, 15:23:27
I am looking at doing an occupational transfer from the Infantry.  I'm wondering how it would work for me as most of what I have read in the search function was for guys on PAT or guys without completed College/Mil leadership courses.

Im MOD6 Infantry qualified (sans rank though), been on tour, and I already completed the College Course requirements years ago.  So far I understand I have to initiate with a memo through my COC and an appointment to the BPSO.

thanks
Title: Re: Remuster to MP from Infantry
Post by: Lgtairs on January 24, 2013, 21:01:59
Hey! I am currently in the process of OT'ing  to MP. You have the process right so far, the first step is to apply through your chain of command (I found all the forms and the process of submission on the DIN and under our BPSO's webpage) . If the BPSO feels that you are a good fit after your interview, they will forward your file for further application.  You may  then receive a selection letter for the  MPAC (location varies I've found and I waited months to get it) and they decide if you will be suitable from there (going to the MPAC is not necessarily an indication of whether or not you will be accepted). That's as far as I've gotten right now.

I don't have any of the post secondary requirements that a new CF applicant needs, they are not required for an OT but may be helpful if trade related.

Hope it all works out for you.
Title: Re: Remuster to MP from Infantry
Post by: Grunt on January 28, 2013, 22:20:50
thanks for the help, much appreciated  :)
Title: Re: Remuster to MP from Infantry
Post by: MeatheadMick on February 11, 2013, 15:31:50
Good thing is, most OT's (especially from the Cbt Arms) are some of the best MP's we have. With your qual's listed including tour, you should have no problem being able to swap over. The only thing getting in the way is the numbers game, as they're not accepting too many MP's OT side. However, if you have time to kill and are succesfully selected upon completion of MPAC, it should be nothing but playing the waiting game.

Hope you manage to score a position at an MP det, and not getting stuck at a field pl. We have a mbr getting posted into 1 MP Pl straight from QL3. Also another mbr was 12 years 3rd Bn PPCLI, MCpl, Small Arms Qualified, spent 3 years at a det in Gander, and then on posting to Edmonton... you guessed it, Field Platoon! It's really not a horrible go, sometimes it's a pretty gucci meathead field time, others it's more like Infantry Lite, and 90% of people have no idea what they're doing.

Overall Good luck!
Title: Re: Remuster to MP from Infantry
Post by: HT90 on March 12, 2013, 11:11:41
I'm also looking to an OT from the Navy to Mp,

I saw on the DIN that College is not necessary but a tour is necessary for OT.

Does anybody know what kind of tour would be accepted by the BPSO for someone in a Hard sea trade? Would it only be afghanistan?


Title: Re: Remuster to MP from Infantry
Post by: garb811 on March 12, 2013, 11:25:21
If I recall correctly, the tour is only a requirement if you are a Reservist and doing a CT or CT/OT.  If you are Reg Force and doing an OT, it is preferred that you have a couple of college or university credits in an applicable subject but you can do an OT with neither.
Title: Re: Remuster to MP from Infantry
Post by: HT90 on March 12, 2013, 11:30:31
I can't get on the DIN right now but the tour was listed under 'experience required' and all this was under Occupational transfer. (it said the tour is required if you don't have PF)

Title: OT to NCM MP from Air Force Trade
Post by: dh101 on July 10, 2016, 22:09:32
I decided to post this here in the hope that someone may have more knowledge regarding this as opposed to the Occupational and Component Transfers Forum.

I understand that someone looking to go direct entry to MP requires police foundations, however, I'm looking for information for OT'ing to MP from another Reg Force Trade. Do you still require the police foundations?

Secondly, what exactly is the process for OT'ing to MP? I remember someone from my old unit who was doing the testing for it, I recall it involving some sort of PT test and maybe other testing?
If anyone could give me the exact process that would be involved, IE. PT test, interview, etc.

I tried to search for this information already but couldn't seem to come up with it.

Thanks
Title: Re: OT to NCM MP from Air Force Trade
Post by: SupersonicMax on July 10, 2016, 22:16:56
I don't have the answers but I know someone that does!  If I were you, I'd set up a meeting with the BPSO and have a sit down with him/her to get all the relevant information on the requirements and the process.

First though, I would sit down with my supervisor and talk about your career ambitions!
Title: Re: OT to NCM MP from Air Force Trade
Post by: cac1993 on July 10, 2016, 22:21:28
I had a guy on my MPAC who was a steward trying to OT. Took him 5 years just to get to the MPAC. You will have to get through MPAC first just like every other applicant. As far as the rest of the process I'm not sure.. I'm sure it's like any other OT minus the MPAC.
Title: Re: OT to NCM MP from Air Force Trade
Post by: dh101 on July 10, 2016, 22:22:56
I don't have the answers but I know someone that does!  If I were you, I'd set up a meeting with the BPSO and have a sit down with him/her to get all the relevant information on the requirements and the process.

First though, I would sit down with my supervisor and talk about your career ambitions!

Thanks for the advice, I certainly plan on doing that, but first I just wanted to see what obstacles I have to overcome first (obstacle being if the Police Foundations is required, I'll have to obtain that course)

That would be great if you know someone who can answer.

Thanks



I had a guy on my MPAC who was a steward trying to OT. Took him 5 years just to get to the MPAC. You will have to get through MPAC first just like every other applicant. As far as the rest of the process I'm not sure.. I'm sure it's like any other OT minus the MPAC.
What exactly is MPAC? is that the MP academy or something else?
Title: Re: OT to NCM MP from Air Force Trade
Post by: reverse_eng on July 10, 2016, 22:28:27
You can find the entry standards for each MOSID on the DPGR page on DWAN. It breaks down the different entry methods and what is expected of applicants. That should be your starting point, followed by the PSO as SupersonicMax suggested earlier.

Title: Re: OT to NCM MP from Air Force Trade
Post by: putz on July 14, 2016, 19:18:47
I OT from Infantry almost 6 years ago.  They waived my requirement to have police foundations as I had deployed to Afghanistan.  All I did was fill out the OT paperwork, ensured that my medical was GTG and played the waiting game until MPAC.  After MPAC waited for course.  Process at the time was identical to what you had to do if you came through off the street (only difference was no SQ or BMQ as that was done).  It may have changed but I can't imagine much.  We always need people.
Title: OT after my QL3 ?
Post by: Born on July 27, 2016, 18:24:42
Hi,

I just finished my supply tech QL3 and I want to transfer to MP.

What do I need to do to get there?

Can I apply right now for an OT ? How much time do I need to wait ?
Title: Re: OT after my QL3 ?
Post by: Eye In The Sky on July 27, 2016, 18:52:04
48 months is the normal for OT after you're QL3 quald.  Find CFAO 11-12 and have a read.
Title: Re: OT after my QL3 ?
Post by: Jayjaycf on July 27, 2016, 18:54:39
I think once you are qualified in your trade you have to wait 4 years to be eligible for the avotp program, at least thats what I have been told by my base BPSO. I might be wrong though I am not familiar with the OT process.
Title: Re: OT after my QL3 ?
Post by: Born on July 27, 2016, 18:56:00
48 months is the normal for OT after you're QL3 quald.  Find CFAO 11-12 and have a read.

Alright, If I have 24 months given from my time passed in the reserve force, I need to wait 24 months ?
Title: Re: OT after my QL3 ?
Post by: George Wallace on July 27, 2016, 18:58:28
Alright, If I have 24 months given from my time passed in the reserve force, I need to wait 24 months ?

If I am correct, that 24 months, if you have bought it back, is only good towards your pension.
Title: Re: OT after my QL3 ?
Post by: Born on July 27, 2016, 18:59:59
If I am correct, that 24 months, if you have bought it back, is only good towards your pension.

I dont think so because I just got hired as a private 3...
Title: Re: OT after my QL3 ?
Post by: PuckChaser on July 27, 2016, 19:08:31
I dont think so because I just got hired as a private 3...

You said you just finished your Supply QL3. I take it you were a Supply Tech in the PRes and CT'd to the RegF? I hope you didn't do that thinking you could get an easy OT in the RegF. If you've just graduated Supply QL3, your 4 year clock starts now.

Enjoy the wait.
Title: Re: OT after my QL3 ?
Post by: George Wallace on July 27, 2016, 19:15:55
I dont think so because I just got hired as a private 3...

That has no bearing on what Previous Service you may have bought back, if you bought any back.  That is what IPC you were offered due to "skills" possessed.
Title: Re: OT after my QL3 ?
Post by: Eye In The Sky on July 27, 2016, 19:18:46
Alright, If I have 24 months given from my time passed in the reserve force, I need to wait 24 months ?

If your reserve service was continuous full time then it might (the latest AVOTP competition message would detail this).  However, if you were Cl A reserves, I'd say no it won't count.  48 months continuous full time service is the norm.  Have a read of the CFAO and stop by your local PSO office, and have a read of the latest CANFORGEN on AVOTP for this years competition.