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Re: Top Gun 2
« Reply #25 on: July 18, 2019, 16:25:08 »
Saw a shirtless volleyball scene in there Dimsum... 😉   Movie actually looks solid!!
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Re: Top Gun 2
« Reply #26 on: July 18, 2019, 16:42:09 »
Resurrecting the thread for the trailer.  Wow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwIBkmgz6uA&fbclid=IwAR12kg63m_1EIzq331p_qdZz8GT3QnRxVTmdojVU0KDfFAUxrGa-6f-E17s

Wisely, it seems they've decided to issue the F35s to the less senile pilots :)
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Re: Top Gun 2
« Reply #27 on: July 18, 2019, 17:19:10 »
Correct me if I'm wrong, but in the US military if you don't reach a certain officers rank in a said period of time you get punted? In other words no career Captains?
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Re: Top Gun 2
« Reply #28 on: July 18, 2019, 17:29:15 »
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Re: Top Gun 2
« Reply #29 on: July 18, 2019, 17:37:06 »
Correct me if I'm wrong, but in the US military if you don't reach a certain officers rank in a said period of time you get punted? In other words no career Captains?

A Captain in the USN, so it looks like he got promoted 3 ranks since the first movie
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Re: Top Gun 2
« Reply #30 on: July 18, 2019, 18:04:55 »
A Captain in the USN, so it looks like he got promoted 3 ranks since the first movie

Not surprised by the relatively low rank. He does have a history of high speed passes over five air control towers and one admirals daughter.

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Re: Top Gun 2
« Reply #31 on: July 18, 2019, 18:24:31 »
A Captain in the USN, so it looks like he got promoted 3 ranks since the first movie

But how many times was he busted down in that period??
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Re: Top Gun 2
« Reply #32 on: July 18, 2019, 18:50:23 »
But how many times was he busted down in that period??

I hear we was flying rubber dog **** out of Hong Kong for awhile :)
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Re: Top Gun 2
« Reply #33 on: July 18, 2019, 18:56:55 »
....relax, I can almost feel the cubicle in NDHQ or the Crystal Palace waiting for me after my time down under.

Oh i've started dropping your name already  >:D

Oh, the irony all these years later... ;D
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Re: Top Gun 2
« Reply #34 on: July 19, 2019, 06:31:50 »
If Maverick is still flying F-18s, then they should damned well be good enough for us.

Also I want another trailer with more Ed Harris.
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Re: Top Gun 2
« Reply #35 on: July 19, 2019, 07:51:24 »
In the trailer I saw a hand slap something on a casket. So that made me think a couple of scenarios:

Goose's son is a SEAL

Mav did something to get him killed.


(I'll be very disappointed if Goose's family is not involved in this flick!)

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Re: Top Gun 2
« Reply #36 on: July 19, 2019, 08:11:04 »
The final scene in the trailer is an F-14; does this mean Iran is the bad guy?

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Re: Top Gun 2
« Reply #37 on: July 19, 2019, 08:37:11 »
In the trailer I saw a hand slap something on a casket. So that made me think a couple of scenarios:

Goose's son is a SEAL

Mav did something to get him killed.


(I'll be very disappointed if Goose's family is not involved in this flick!)

While the "Trident slap on the coffin" is a SEAL thing, I've watched that trailer more times than I'd care to admit and those are USN Naval Aviator wings that get slapped on.  I'm pretty sure that's not a tradition in real life though.

The final scene in the trailer is an F-14; does this mean Iran is the bad guy?

If Iran's F-14s are still airworthy, that means we should start getting Iranian Air Force airplane technicians to work for us :nod:
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Re: Top Gun 2
« Reply #38 on: July 19, 2019, 08:48:17 »
While the "Trident slap on the coffin" is a SEAL thing, I've watched that trailer more times than I'd care to admit and those are USN Naval Aviator wings that get slapped on.  I'm pretty sure that's not a tradition in real life though.

If Iran's F-14s are still airworthy, that means we should start getting Iranian Air Force airplane technicians to work for us :nod:

I just watched the trailer again and saw the Aviator wings vice the trident.

Concur on the capabilities of the Iranian Air Force Airframe, Electronic and Engine technicians!

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Re: Top Gun 2
« Reply #39 on: July 19, 2019, 09:50:53 »
Correct me if I'm wrong, but in the US military if you don't reach a certain officers rank in a said period of time you get punted? In other words no career Captains?

Yes, the USN has an up or out policy.  Nevertheless, there are plenty of 50+ naval aviator captains (one is a friend of mine).  However, it could be possible that this is one of those extremely rare occasions where Hollywood has made a mistake and portrayed military life and/or policy slightly inaccurately - especially rare for a Tom Cruise movie!
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Re: Top Gun 2
« Reply #40 on: July 19, 2019, 11:32:45 »
Correct me if I'm wrong, but in the US military if you don't reach a certain officers rank in a said period of time you get punted? In other words no career Captains?

If actual time was followed (instead of pretend movie time) Mav would have been mandatorily retired years ago.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/search/display.html?terms=634&url=/uscode/html/uscode10/usc_sec_10_00000634----000-.html
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(a)  30 Years of Active Commissioned Service.—
Except as provided in subsection (b) and as provided under section 637(b) or 637a of this title, each officer of the Regular Army, Regular Air Force, or Regular Marine Corps who holds the regular grade of colonel, and each officer of the Regular Navy who holds the regular grade of captain, who is not on a list of officers recommended for promotion to the regular grade of brigadier general or rear admiral (lower half), respectively, shall, if not earlier retired, be retired on the first day of the month after the month in which he completes 30 years of active commissioned service.

(b) Exceptions.—Subsection (a) does not apply to the following:
(1)   An officer of the Navy who is designated for limited duty to whom section 8372(a)(4) of this title applies.

(2)   An officer of the Navy or Marine Corps who is a permanent professor at the United States Naval Academy.

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Re: Top Gun 2
« Reply #41 on: July 19, 2019, 12:36:00 »
If actual time was followed (instead of pretend movie time) Mav would have been mandatorily retired years ago.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/search/display.html?terms=634&url=/uscode/html/uscode10/usc_sec_10_00000634----000-.html

So would Tom Cruise... but thanks to the marvels of modern science, and Scientology.... :)
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Re: Top Gun 2
« Reply #42 on: July 19, 2019, 12:42:11 »
So would Tom Cruise... but thanks to the marvels of modern science, and Scientology.... :)

Ridiculous. 

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on a serious note:  Trailer looks awesome.  might be the next biggest recruiting tool for the USN since the last one.
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Re: Top Gun 2
« Reply #43 on: July 19, 2019, 13:00:06 »
If actual time was followed (instead of pretend movie time) Mav would have been mandatorily retired years ago.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/search/display.html?terms=634&url=/uscode/html/uscode10/usc_sec_10_00000634----000-.html

One of the exceptions was being a prof at Annapolis.  That could have been a valid excuse, but "Top Gun:  PhD" doesn't really have the same ring to it. 
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Re: Top Gun 2
« Reply #44 on: July 19, 2019, 13:42:16 »
Excerpt from piece from 2016 on original "Top Gun" (which one might call "The Right Stuff" of its time):

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Top Gun at 30: A Retrospective from Two Naval Aviators
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As naval aviators, the most frequent question we get asked at cocktail parties is, “how much do you love the movie Top Gun?”  Though frequently answered with a coy and deflecting response, the true answer is … a lot.

Yes, in the ready rooms of Navy squadrons today, aviators make a pastime of mocking the film and any pilot that dares to quote the movie with any hint of seriousness.  To be fair, there are many technical and cultural inaccuracies in the movie: beach volleyball is sadly rare in our community (although that is exactly what we look like with our shirts off), the inverted polaroid shot is insanely impossible, and we do not randomly wear so many patches on our flight suits.  But underneath the mockery is a deep feeling of pride in the portrayal of the Navy fighter community in such a popular film.  Bankers don’t love the movie Wall Street for the insights into the due diligence of corporate acquisitions, but they still secretly wonder whether they are more of a Gordon Gekko or Bud Fox in private.

The film remains the most accurate popular depiction of the thrill of flying fighters and the camaraderie and culture of a fighter squadron.  So we love it. The daily excitement and challenge of flying a jet supersonic, fighting adversaries, and operating at maximum performance fills pilots with such adrenaline and pride that there is a natural desire to relive airborne glories when on the ground, telling stories to anyone who will listen.  Because the flying can be so technical and exists in a sensory world unlike any other normally experienced in life, it can be incredibly difficult for a pilot to communicate the excitement of any given flight to anyone other than fellow pilots.  This movie, for the first time, captured the intensity, danger, and beauty of flying low and fast; and it continues to be the best reference for military pilots to reach a common understanding with spouses, families, and the general public...

Commander Greg Malandrino has flown F-14 Tomcats and F/A-18 Super Hornet aircraft for the Navy for over 16 years and is a graduate of Navy Fighter Weapons School (TOPGUN).

Lieutenant Commander Jeff McLean has flown Super Hornets for the Navy since 2008.  He is a graduate of Navy Test Pilot School and serves on the editorial board of the U.S. Naval Institute.  The views and opinions expressed are theirs alone and do not represent the views of the U.S. Department of Defense, the U.S. Navy, the American Film Institute, or any other agency...

https://warontherocks.com/2016/04/top-gun-at-30-a-retrospective-from-two-naval-aviators/

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Re: Top Gun 2
« Reply #45 on: July 19, 2019, 13:46:42 »
... there are plenty of 50+ naval aviator captains (one is a friend of mine) ...
I was doing a bit of mental math and was wondering about Mav's age as a still-flying colonel myself.
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Re: Top Gun 2
« Reply #46 on: July 19, 2019, 13:54:02 »
Tom Cruise is 57, DOB July 03 1962

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Re: Top Gun 2
« Reply #47 on: July 19, 2019, 16:07:08 »

If Iran's F-14s are still airworthy, that means we should start getting Iranian Air Force airplane technicians to work for us :nod:

Same league as Cuban auto mechanics.
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Re: Top Gun 2
« Reply #48 on: July 19, 2019, 16:34:49 »
I wasn't remotely suggesting that Iran's F-14s might still be flying.  Rather, if the US' enemy de jour  is Iran, may as well have the movie enemy flying the only foreign purchase of F-14s -- Iran.

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Re: Top Gun 2
« Reply #49 on: July 19, 2019, 18:25:54 »
I wasn't remotely suggesting that Iran's F-14s might still be flying.  Rather, if the US' enemy de jour  is Iran, may as well have the movie enemy flying the only foreign purchase of F-14s -- Iran.

May be its a Maverick flashback!
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