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1:35 Leopard 2A6M CAN
« on: April 05, 2012, 21:48:47 »
Oh yes, the Eastern Bunny came early for me...  ;D







What do you think folks?

Does anyone know where I can get a C6 gun for this tank? Is has the German machine gun for some reason. I thought the Leopard came with the C6??

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Re: 1:35 Leopard 2A6M CAN
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2012, 22:16:07 »
The Leopard 2's Canada leased from the Germans, had the MG3 on it as far as I know. So sounds like that model is accurate. I believe that is one of the reasons the Leo2 took so long to get to the Regiments, as it was required to be canadianized, and the C6 mounts were something that had to be added in. Hope that helps.

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Re: 1:35 Leopard 2A6M CAN
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2012, 22:41:03 »
The A6M's did have MG3 coax and ack-ack as the tank itself was an IOR, so Canadianizing was kept to a minimum. We just recently had a TAV to allow the C6 to be a coax in the A4M's.

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Re: 1:35 Leopard 2A6M CAN
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2012, 15:15:42 »
I need a line on that Easter Bunny. All I got was a hard boiled egg... and I think it had been left out overnight!

You're G2G with that Leopard out-of-the-box. There's detail sets for it if you want to go for a later Afg version with cuda cam etc. Some guys have said the upper hull might need to be braced against the lower hull, just aft of the turret ring. If the upper hull is concaved there, it would be a good time to fix before all the fiddly bits get added.

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Re: 1:35 Leopard 2A6M CAN
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2012, 16:04:14 »
Was the Leopard 2A6M, NATO camouflage scheme when it arrived to the sandbox? Or is it the "green" tone? And what is the exact green color? Olive Drab?

Did all the Leopards have the barracuda cam done? Thinking about starch building that part. :D

Barracuda cam net DIY

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Re: 1:35 Leopard 2A6M CAN
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2012, 16:38:46 »
Did all the Leopards have the barracuda cam done? Thinking about starch building that part. :D

How does that song go? Too much time on my hands...  ;D

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Re: 1:35 Leopard 2A6M CAN
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2012, 18:13:28 »
That kit is to represent a Leo2 during TF 3-07 / TF 1-08.

They had MG3s as AKAKs until TF 1-10 I believe and then changed to C6, the COAX remained MG3s.

There is no need to do anything to the model if that's what you are trying to build. Now if you're going for something from late TF 1-08 or TF 03-08, you'll need this conversion kit:

http://www.perfect-scale.de/Umbau--und-Zuruestsaetze-1---35/Leopard-2A6M-CAN--Barracuda--213.html

and the upgrade kit:

http://www.perfect-scale.de/Umbau--und-Zuruestsaetze-1---35/Leopard-2A6-M-CAN-Upgrade-Kit.html?XTCsid=a76adbbca1b7cdcf37f5816881a8a595

The slat armour is the wrong scale too:

http://www.trackjam.com/RealModel/RMA%2035219.htm

Then there are the tracks, you can get decent ones from Bronco.



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Re: 1:35 Leopard 2A6M CAN
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2012, 18:32:27 »
Does anyone have the 1:35 scale water bottle set? Like this?   If so, can you donate a few my direction? I got "wine" bottles from an old Churchill tank model. Wonder if anyone will notice the difference while on the antennas? =D

I got MRE packs if any one is interested for their model.

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Re: 1:35 Leopard 2A6M CAN
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2012, 19:14:08 »
Does anyone have the 1:35 scale water bottle set? Like this?   If so, can you donate a few my direction? I got "wine" bottles from an old Churchill tank model. Wonder if anyone will notice the difference while on the antennas? =D

I got MRE packs if any one is interested for their model.

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Re: 1:35 Leopard 2A6M CAN
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2012, 20:49:24 »
Hey Nerf herder.. got any pictures of your project? I'm just starting the "cage" of mine now. Might take a picture tomorrow. Love to see the barracuda set done on yours.

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Re: 1:35 Leopard 2A6M CAN
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2012, 21:26:49 »
I have a few c-9 and what a think is a c-6 out a a brit kit. what name does the c-6 go buy in the rest of the world?
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Re: 1:35 Leopard 2A6M CAN
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2012, 21:48:14 »
GPMG or FN MAG

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Re: 1:35 Leopard 2A6M CAN
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2012, 21:54:30 »
GPMG or FN MAG

Ok to this old sod a GPMG is one of the old 7.62 Browing. but the brit kit I have has two fn mag's in it so I have 2 c-6's.
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Re: 1:35 Leopard 2A6M CAN
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2012, 22:34:38 »
Correct, as long as you paint the butt brown, if you paint it black it will be a Brit GPMG.

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Re: 1:35 Leopard 2A6M CAN
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2012, 23:15:10 »
Hey Nerf herder.. got any pictures of your project? I'm just starting the "cage" of mine now. Might take a picture tomorrow. Love to see the barracuda set done on yours.

Haven't made it that far yet. Resin is a pain in the butt!

Been working on the slat armour on and off for a few months now and the track too. PE is a pain in the butt, especially when you get to the security cables....they are thinner than a hair.

Slowly working on this project and trying not to screw up by going too fast.
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Re: 1:35 Leopard 2A6M CAN
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Re: 1:35 Leopard 2A6M CAN
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2012, 18:06:55 »
Clear sprue cut to size and molded with a candle and patience works and it's free.

Another method is to take the clear sprue, chuck it in the dremel tool, and shape the bottle, neck, and cap, using a file or x-acto blade. Just have to keep the rpm's low. If you are using them for glo-stick holders, you can also drill a hole in the cap, and fill the hole with clear paint. When the bottle is inverted, it will look like the glo stick is resting on the 'cap'.

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Re: 1:35 Leopard 2A6M CAN
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2012, 18:09:05 »


Slat looks pretty decent to me...I don't envy having to paint the NATO-flage through those slats though.

That cuda cam article is excellent. You'd swear this was 1:1 scale...
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Re: 1:35 Leopard 2A6M CAN
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2012, 18:28:50 »
Slat looks pretty decent to me...I don't envy having to paint the NATO-flage through those slats though.

Yeah, it will be "weather" pretty good, so a lot won't notice.. :D

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Re: 1:35 Leopard 2A6M CAN
« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2012, 21:11:47 »
Okay the candle idea, made my bottles look like french art. Not cool. But the dremel and knife.... awesome idea. I just added some sand paper at different grids and time.
1600 grid makes the plastic crystal clear at the end.


Also does anyone know a good Canadian store site with a huge paint selection? Looking for MIG and Vallejo.

Thanks for the advice folks,
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Re: 1:35 Leopard 2A6M CAN
« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2012, 06:44:34 »
This guy carries nothing but Vallejo and will do orders for anyone anywhere.

https://www.elmcityhobbies.com/shop/index.php

The trick with building a model like this is it has to be planned from the start and painting has to be taken into account as well.

The very last thing I plan on doing is attaching the slat armour then a clear coat after doing weathering. It's hard to replicate rain marks/ dust through slat.
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Re: 1:35 Leopard 2A6M CAN
« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2012, 10:06:21 »
I've ordered from Elm City before, no dramas. The owner is a good guy.

You can also get Vallejo in Ottawa at The Hobby Centre. I've never tried that paint on a full model; typically I just use it for detail painting like pioneer tools and SGL caps etc. I'm curious to hear how it goes on over larger areas. For the  2A6M CDN, I'd be reaching for my usual Tamiya NATO Green, Brown, and Black, and for the slats, XF 78 Wooden Deck Tan.
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Re: 1:35 Leopard 2A6M CAN
« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2012, 10:22:56 »
I order some NATO Green and Brown. As for the black, I'm just using flat black. For the slates, I'm going to use Dark Yellow (Panzer Yellow) since I got a lot of it kicking around.

MIG is more for my pigment weathering. Vallejo, I use on my figures. Great flesh tones, they stock.

Also, is there any tips or tricks for creating side mirrors on the tank? I was thinking about Bare Metal Foils .



I have a few c-9 and what a think is a c-6 out a a brit kit. what name does the c-6 go buy in the rest of the world?

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Re: 1:35 Leopard 2A6M CAN
« Reply #23 on: April 09, 2012, 19:58:12 »
Don't use flat black to replicate the black on the NATO tri colour. It's wrong in that the "blackness" is too pronounced and will stand out like a sore thumb if you're considering entering it in any competitions.

The actual black is a black grey. Vallejo has it. Tamiya's NATO black is spot on as well.

http://www.elmcityhobbies.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=55_56_59&products_id=2487

As for how Vallejo works on models, I just completed a 1:16th scale model and it turned out perfect. You have to use the thinner to reduce the amount of build up at the airbrush tip though.

The mirrors in theater were never used, so they were in the stowed position. IE: folded down at all times.
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Re: 1:35 Leopard 2A6M CAN
« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2012, 12:19:48 »
Don't use flat black to replicate the black on the NATO tri colour. It's wrong in that the "blackness" is too pronounced and will stand out like a sore thumb if you're considering entering it in any competitions.

Yeah I think you"re right. I remember driving SMP's with a grayish black to it. I'll be going with Tamiya's NATO black. Thanks for the help. Now to get my hands on a LAV III...

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Re: 1:35 Leopard 2A6M CAN
« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2012, 16:43:28 »
So I went to the hobby shop after work to pick up a NATO Black. Ended up with that, plus a Badger Airbrush, gravity feed, with a new hose. Wife is going to kill me.

Oh, and is there any tips for the lens on the tank? How to make them more realistic? I want to make the Leopard as real as I can.


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Re: 1:35 Leopard 2A6M CAN
« Reply #26 on: April 10, 2012, 17:29:42 »
the headlights you can make with these, which you might be able to locate at a Michael's crafty store.

http://www.eksuccessbrands.com/sticko/Products/Shimmering_Silver_Dot_Stickers_52-20049.htm

for the other optics, you can try a bag of foil confetti, which can usually be found in the party supply section:
http://www.thepartypeople.com.au/media/images/products/6184/11816/image-879-735.jpg

You could also try painting it silver and then using tamiya clear colours over top...need a steady hand for that!
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Re: 1:35 Leopard 2A6M CAN
« Reply #27 on: April 10, 2012, 18:58:55 »
The guys here would like to see that, if you are interested in re-posting it:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/169232/

           That is a great link. Thanks for the share. And I think the confetti is the way I"ll be leaning towards. As Nerf Herder said... PE can be a real pain. My cargo turret basket fell apart after gluing my fingers numerous times. All good and fun.

          I think I got the NATO-flage figured out too. To paint hull on a downward direction from above. Then paint the slates by brush. I just sprayed my hull with Alclad II primer and micro filler to see how it reacts. Made the hull come out flawless. Very impressed. Then I pre shaded the outlines of the hull with one part water and two parts flat black.

           When I was at the hobby shop today. Someone scratch built the cage and barracuda netting. Didn't come out perfect. But I do enjoy checking out other plastic models. Kind of glad I didn't go with the scratch built barracuda idea. Might add a rolled up net on the side, thou.

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Re: 1:35 Leopard 2A6M CAN
« Reply #28 on: April 11, 2012, 06:23:57 »
Too bad your build is so far along, you could try out these products from AK.

http://www.ak-interactive.es/ecomm/index.php?acc=Catalog&sacc=view&IDCat=593&p=2&idp=5833&idc=3
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Re: 1:35 Leopard 2A6M CAN
« Reply #29 on: April 11, 2012, 06:56:44 »
Well I order some Mig   Production   Pigments. And I might be picking this too. Great idea Nerf Herder.  ;D

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Re: 1:35 Leopard 2A6M CAN
« Reply #30 on: June 05, 2012, 17:15:14 »
I got the hull all painted. Still putting around on the turret. Had some technical problems. Hopefully will be done before 9erD comes home.

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Re: 1:35 Leopard 2A6M CAN
« Reply #31 on: June 21, 2012, 20:01:21 »
           
. But I do enjoy checking out other plastic models. Kind of glad I didn't go with the scratch built barracuda idea. Might add a rolled up net on the side, thou.

what's your locstat? There may be a club nearby that can help out too.
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Re: 1:35 Leopard 2A6M CAN
« Reply #32 on: November 06, 2012, 18:13:05 »
Today is a sad day for me. Godzilla went into my hobby room and recreated Operation Citadel. Including this Panzer. Even if it was a different era.. this 3 year old  son didn't give a crap. So he wrote off about 5 German figures.. Panzer III J .. Stug III B ... and the Leopard.  Such a sad day. Might go for a drink or eat cake now.


RIP my Panzers....


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