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Do I have to be good at math to be a pilot?
« on: August 20, 2012, 20:49:14 »
Sorry if this is a long read.
Let me introduce a bit more about myself: I am 17 as of now; I was born with a learning disability (did not know until I was diagnosed in grade 8, when I was 13). I did poorly in school with all subjects except gym because I'm fairly active and I like taking part in sports. I wasn't the smartest person in the class, but probably one of the dumbest if I say. My learning disability affected my English and mathematics skills throughout my years in school. It was the end of grade 9 when I decided to make a big commitment in improving my English and math skills, probably one of the hardest and discouraging years of my life. It wasn't until the late of grade 11, I motivated myself to pursue my dream as a pilot; ever since, I changed my ways physically, intellectually and organizationally. My dream is the only thing that motivates me to do well in school. I'm going to be grade 12 when school starts in September, and it's my last chance to do well in school and get accepted to university for criminology, and then join the forces with a DEO plan, wish me luck!  :P.

Okay enough blabbering about myself, back to the regards of my question:
I was just wondering if I have to be good at math because I know for a fact that there is math involved with being a pilot. I mean, I can do math, just not like the Calculus and Vectors crap. I mean I'm fairly good at math once I know how to do it. :o   

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Re: Do I have to be good at math to be a pilot?
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2012, 21:35:11 »
I'm just a dumb gunner, but I'm pretty sure vectoring is important.  Couldn't resist.

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Re: Do I have to be good at math to be a pilot?
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2012, 21:39:05 »
I'm just a dumb gunner, but I'm pretty sure vectoring is important.  Couldn't resist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVq4_HhBK8Y

Hahahaha, thanks for the laugh. Looks like I'ma watch the movie at the mean time, since I have nothing else to do.

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Re: Do I have to be good at math to be a pilot?
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2012, 21:47:34 »
Need help with math?  I always found these two websites very helpful.

http://patrickjmt.com/

http://www.khanacademy.org/

Youtube is also your friend.  That is how I found these sites.

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Re: Do I have to be good at math to be a pilot?
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2012, 21:52:55 »
Need help with math?  I always found these two websites very helpful.

http://patrickjmt.com/

http://www.khanacademy.org/

Youtube is also your friend.  That is how I found these sites.

Yeah, thanks. I've heard of them, and used them to help me with sciences and math as well. It's just when it comes to tests and exams is where I go bye bye to my marks because I blank out and I can't do anything about that.  :-\ :-\

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Re: Do I have to be good at math to be a pilot?
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2012, 22:01:44 »
It's just when it comes to tests and exams is where I go bye bye to my marks because I blank out and I can't do anything about that.  :-\ :-\

Well, you are going to have to get over it.

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Re: Do I have to be good at math to be a pilot?
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2012, 22:11:48 »
Yeah, thanks. I've heard of them, and used them to help me with sciences and math as well. It's just when it comes to tests and exams is where I go bye bye to my marks because I blank out and I can't do anything about that.  :-\ :-\

Unfortunately, all aircrew trades (not just Pilot) will involve lots of tests and exams, both practical and written, that will involve math.  Nothing too involved, but definitely speed-time-distance, quick arithmetic and such. 
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Re: Do I have to be good at math to be a pilot?
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2012, 22:15:26 »
Unfortunately, all aircrew trades (not just Pilot) will involve lots of tests and exams, both practical and written, that will involve math.  Nothing too involved, but definitely speed-time-distance, quick arithmetic and such.

Yeah, I was just wondering what kind of math is involved during training, because what I learn in high school for math is just bizarre to my brain. I just go clueless. If it's basic math, I can breeze by with ease, and I tend to answer quicker than the students who's smarter than me. Just like in chemistry, hehe.
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Re: Do I have to be good at math to be a pilot?
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2012, 22:19:08 »
I love this forum. Great when folks help out. If we could only do without the snotty comments, that really provide no insight.

Well, I guess I gotta deal with it. Nothing we can do about that.

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Re: Do I have to be good at math to be a pilot?
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2012, 22:29:19 »
Yeah, I was just wondering what kind of math is involved during training, because what I learn in high school for math is just bizarre to my brain. I just go clueless. If it's basic math, I can breeze by with ease, and I tend to answer quicker than the students who's smarter than me. Just like in chemistry, hehe.

Honestly, if you can't do High School math, you'll have trouble getting the required scores on the CFAT to even pass step#1. On the other hand (and the good news), is that with hard work and patience it is something that can be fixed. Those sites posted a few messages up are great. I plan on using them myself to try and understand this whole EW thing I do.

Cheers, and best of luck!

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Re: Do I have to be good at math to be a pilot?
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2012, 22:42:55 »
Honestly, if you can't do High School math, you'll have trouble getting the required scores on the CFAT to even pass step#1. On the other hand (and the good news), is that with hard work and patience it is something that can be fixed. Those sites posted a few messages up are great. I plan on using them myself to try and understand this whole EW thing I do.

Cheers, and best of luck!

Well, I can. It just takes longer for me to process information in my head than the average student for math. As long there is patience and time involved, I think I would do fine. If worse comes to worse, I'll just ask my friend or hire a tutor to help me before I take the CFAT test. Is it possibly to retest CFAT if you did poorly or something?

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Re: Do I have to be good at math to be a pilot?
« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2012, 22:51:46 »
I know few pilots in CF and their math was really bad. I guess the aircrew selection was too easy for them and they got in easily.

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Re: Do I have to be good at math to be a pilot?
« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2012, 22:52:11 »
Its easy man, dont worry about negative stuff or stress over how they say you wont be able to do it. Just study gr 8-10 math on google somewhere, thats all you need to know. I hated math in school and stopped at gr 10 and thought id do bad on the cfat too, i studied three days befor the test and found it the easiest part out of the three. Keep in mind 3/4 answers are usually wayyyyy off and using reverse math(multiplication) to find the answer youll realise only ones remotly close befor you even finish the math. Just study long multiplication, cross multiplication like 12x-8y / 5a-B what is B? Type qeustions. Word qeustions. If you can add the 0 and carry the 1 youll be fine.

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Re: Do I have to be good at math to be a pilot?
« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2012, 22:54:02 »
Well, I can. It just takes longer for me to process information in my head than the average student for math. As long there is patience and time involved, I think I would do fine. If worse comes to worse, I'll just ask my friend or hire a tutor to help me before I take the CFAT test. Is it possibly to retest CFAT if you did poorly or something?

Well, unfortunately, you've got to be pretty quick on that third section of the CFAT. You get 30 minutes to do 30 questions, but that time flies by in a hurry.

Yes, you can re-write, but you have to wait a year.

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Re: Do I have to be good at math to be a pilot?
« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2012, 22:58:31 »
I know few pilots in CF and their math was really bad. I guess the aircrew selection was too easy for them and they got in easily.

They must be really lucky then :P!

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Re: Do I have to be good at math to be a pilot?
« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2012, 22:59:42 »
Its easy man, dont worry about negative stuff or stress over how they say you wont be able to do it. Just study gr 8-10 math on google somewhere, thats all you need to know. I hated math in school and stopped at gr 10 and thought id do bad on the cfat too, i studied three days befor the test and found it the easiest part out of the three. Keep in mind 3/4 answers are usually wayyyyy off and using reverse math(multiplication) to find the answer youll realise only ones remotly close befor you even finish the math. Just study long multiplication, cross multiplication like 12x-8y / 5a-B what is B? Type qeustions. Word qeustions. If you can add the 0 and carry the 1 youll be fine.

Thanks for the tip!

Well, unfortunately, you've got to be pretty quick on that third section of the CFAT. You get 30 minutes to do 30 questions, but that time flies by in a hurry.

Yes, you can re-write, but you have to wait a year.

Oh, I see. I'm assuming you've taken it. How was it?
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Re: Do I have to be good at math to be a pilot?
« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2012, 23:01:52 »
God damn, thats what i said, review gr 8-10 math.

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Re: Do I have to be good at math to be a pilot?
« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2012, 23:04:28 »
God damn, thats what i said, review gr 8-10 math.

LOL, sorry. I wasn't reading the whole thing properly.

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Re: Do I have to be good at math to be a pilot?
« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2012, 23:21:45 »
LOL, sorry. I wasn't reading the whole thing properly.
Don't take this forum as a joke! If you don't read why would you bother posting anything? I suggest you use the search function and you will probably find answers for most of your questions.

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Re: Do I have to be good at math to be a pilot?
« Reply #19 on: August 20, 2012, 23:34:43 »
Don't take this forum as a joke! If you don't read why would you bother posting anything? I suggest you use the search function and you will probably find answers for most of your questions.

Because I stated before, I have a learning disability, and I tend to perceive the comment wrong sometimes. It takes me another read to fully realize what he said, but I guess I wasn't doing that with his post.  Sorry if I offended you or anyone else.

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Re: Do I have to be good at math to be a pilot?
« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2012, 00:15:21 »
If you're that worried about some of the math used, why not sign up for a session of ground school at your local flying club?

I went through with a few people that had math issues, but they actually found flying math easier, because you knew WHY you needed it, whereas in school you never really get taught why something is important.
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Re: Do I have to be good at math to be a pilot?
« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2012, 00:38:51 »
If you're that worried about some of the math used, why not sign up for a session of ground school at your local flying club?

I went through with a few people that had math issues, but they actually found flying math easier, because you knew WHY you needed it, whereas in school you never really get taught why something is important.

Sounds like a good idea. How much would a session be?

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« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2012, 00:52:09 »
Sounds like a good idea. How much would a session be?

The whole private pilot ground school is in the neighbourhood of $400 and includes a minimum of 40 hours instruction, although most places exceed that just to make sure you do well on the exam the first time. I'm not sure that any place would let you pick and choose which classes you want to attend, but I suppose there's no harm in asking.

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I think you'll find that most people on this forum have written it (in my case, 10+ years ago.) Search "CFAT" and you will find a multitude of threads on the subject.

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Re: Do I have to be good at math to be a pilot?
« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2012, 01:05:52 »
The whole private pilot ground school is in the neighbourhood of $400 and includes a minimum of 40 hours instruction, although most places exceed that just to make sure you do well on the exam the first time. I'm not sure that any place would let you pick and choose which classes you want to attend, but I suppose there's no harm in asking.

I think you'll find that most people on this forum have written it (in my case, 10+ years ago.) Search "CFAT" and you will find a multitude of threads on the subject.


Sounds great. I most likely will do it in the future because there is no way I can muster up $400 + dollars right now, thanks. Yeah, I've done some researching on the CFAT on this site, and I'm just looking over thread after thread about CFAT.

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Re: Do I have to be good at math to be a pilot?
« Reply #24 on: August 21, 2012, 07:41:38 »
Well, you are going to have to get over it.

I think this is some good advice. It doesn't really give you a ''how'' to get past your issues, but the sum total is that if you want to attain your goals then you just have to get over your difficulties. Blunt, perhaps, but still good wisdom.
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