Topic: BMNQ 2013-Current: Naval Reserve

[Monsoon]

Hey,

I'm in the process of applying in the Navy Reserve for a NCM trade. The recruiter told me BMQ would be 3 weeks in the summer in Valcartier. I am a bit confused, from what I'm reading on the forum, it seems BMQ is usually 12 weeks ?

Thanks for your help!

The delivery format of NAVRES BMNQ is being changed this year. While the course consists of the same syllabus as before, it will be delivered in three phases: phases one and three will be delivered at the units as DL/DT, and phase two (the field and firefighting/damage control bits) will be done over three weeks at Valcartier. The massive upsurge in recruitment this year has made this necessary due to limited space at the training facilities.

[unmaxdemax]

Thanks for your reply ! May I ask what DL/DT mean ? Also, do you think it is a permanent change or just a temporary change ?

I'm taking my CFAT in two weeks. If i pass, I guess it will be too late for this summer's BMQ and will have to wait another year.

[Chief Engineer]

Thanks for your reply ! May I ask what DL/DT mean ? Also, do you think it is a permanent change or just a temporary change ?

I'm taking my CFAT in two weeks. If i pass, I guess it will be too late for this summer's BMQ and will have to wait another year.

This is the permanent way of conducting basic from now on and still equivalent to whats the regular force gets. 

[unmaxdemax]

Thank you ! 3 week, that's quick. What does DT/DL mean ?

[Chief Engineer]

Thank you ! 3 week, that's quick. What does DT/DL mean ?

DL- Distance learning on a computer on the internet.

DT- Directed training in unit with instructors.

[RomeoJuliet]

Perhaps this is something we should look at for Army PRes BMQ?


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[unmaxdemax]

Sorry, i am new to this. If i understand well, for a Navy reservist, there are 3 training phases:
- phase 1 : basic military qualification - Navy
- phase 2 : bmqL
- phase 3 : occupational training

Only phase 2 would be trained in Valcartier. Phase 1 and phase 3 on base. Does that mean you have to go away for only one summer?

I thought that originally it would take 3 summers to be trained. Also, phase 2 only takes 3 weeks? If i am enrolled in june, does it mean i would have to wait till next summer for phase 2? The unit i've applied to has a parade night once a week plus training one saturday a month. Does not seem that much to complete all phases.

[kratz]

Sorry, i am new to this. If i understand well, for a Navy reservist, there are 3 training phases:
- phase 1 : BMNQ - Required DL / DT pre-base training at your NRD.
- phase 2 : BMNQ training - on base, in Valcartier.
- phase 3 : BMNQ - Required DL / DT post-base training at your NRD.
You only graduate BMNQ after successfully completing all three phases. Normally, in one summer.

[kratz]

Based on the Op's comments....He needs to engage his NRD CoC and the Canadian Forces Liaison Council (CFLC). I have seen employers successfully accommodate sailors due to the ability of all stakeholders willing to work together on leave / training, pay issues.

[mariomike]

I've just applied in the RCN for reserve - Logistic officer.

If it makes any difference to the discussion,

I'm in the process of applying in the Navy Reserve for a NCM trade.

[unmaxdemax]

I did apply online. Chose Logistics Officer at first. Then I picked up NCM trades when visiting the local regiment.

[Buck_HRA]

Just to let you know you can either apply as an officer or an NCM, you cannot apply as both.  Just to manage your expectations...

[unmaxdemax]

Yes, I know. I could pick Logistics Officer but was told there were not too many opportunities, so I chose NCM trades instead.

[Slo-as-you-can]

Sorry if there's a thread for this elsewhere, I haven't been able to find any information on this elsewhere. Happy for a referral though.

I recently enrolled in the naval reserves as a marine technician but I'm a student and all the summer slots for BMQ are full. Consequently, I'll be working on the reserve base for a year before taking BMQ, and two years before taking my occupational training. I'm curious how much this will impact what I'm doing on base. Obviously there will be a lot I simply can't do due to lack of training, but will I be able to start any sort of work as a marine technician in the next two years or will I be doing grunt work for the foreseeable future?

[Whatami Gettinginto]

I am Navy (Reserve)

Same here but barely into BMOQ MOD 2. Bumping this thread as well.

[ontheedge]

Whatami Gettinginto - are you able to give a broad overview of some of the stuff you covered in BMOQ Mod 1?  I understand there's been some changes lately and I'm interesting in what is currently covered.

Also interested in hearing from current freshly minted Logistics officers/sergeants on what their full time or reserve work is like.

TIA

[Whatami Gettinginto]

broad overview of some of the stuff you covered in BMOQ Mod 1?

Wish I could but I'm currently doing MOD 2 before MOD 1. Some NCdts have completed MOD 3 before MODs 2 & 1. MOD 1 is done online.

I am really enjoying the whole thing but eager to get into the LogO specific coursework. That's where I'll excel from previous work experience. Walk before you run though. On that note, sooo much running in PT right now.

[ontheedge]

Wish I could but I'm currently doing MOD 2 before MOD 1. Some NCdts have completed MOD 3 before MODs 2 & 1. MOD 1 is done online.

I am really enjoying the whole thing but eager to get into the LogO specific coursework. That's where I'll excel from previous work experience. Walk before you run though. On that note, sooo much running in PT right now.

Can you share what you are learning about?  are there resources we can read from to prepare for all this stuff?  I have been reading some doctrinal stuff but would love to get samples of what's covered in the Mod courses.

[Whatami Gettinginto]

We don't have a manual. Much of what we are covering with Policies and Procedures is very basic in nature. Really learning all of the NCM and Officer Rank symbols and names would be a good step ahead. Speaking of steps, knowing the basic commands for Drill would be a good idea but don't start actually doing it on your own forming bad habits.

Still early days myself.

[ontheedge]

Wow thank!!  I found this. Crazy... I just thought there was one drill .., Ie. MARCH

www.cmp-cpm.forces.gc.ca/dhh-dhp/pub/ins-201/dhh_manual_drill_cermonial_chap-1.pdf

[kratz]

Stop stressing yourself out.

Relax and Chill out!

Yes. The drill manual, the JAG site and CAF documents are online.
It's great you are interested enough to search that much, but now you're
going too far, "without context or training".

Read more, ask less.

If you have questions, copy and paste this into Google:
"site:navy.ca QUESTION"

[ontheedge]

I’m not stressing!  I’m kind of pumped actually.
Drills look so cool.
That being said, I may be idealizing. Do soldiers actually like doing drills?  Or is that just weird.
I feel like drills can be quite hypnotic and therapeutic. Kind of like after doing yoga. It’s tough no doubt but you walk away feeling alert and discipline and part of a team.
So... show of hands... how do people feel about doing their drills??

[mariomike]

... how do people feel about doing their drills??

Opinions vary,
https://www.google.com/search?rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-CA%3AIE-Address&rlz=1I7GGHP_en-GBCA592&biw=1280&bih=621&ei=lGLDW73eBMzx5gKjiqT4BQ&q=site%3Aarmy.ca++drill&oq=site%3Aarmy.ca++drill&gs_l=psy-ab.12...0.0..84265...0.0..0.0.0.......0......gws-wiz.YKhQbWOuDZE

Stop stressing yourself out.

Relax and Chill out!

From way back in 2005,

OP: "Stop panicking, do your PT, and THAT'S IT. That's it. It's that friggin' simple! There's no need to read any secret books. There's no requirement to study before you go. Everything you will need to learn will be taught to you"

Read more, ask less.

 

[ontheedge]

Also saw in the regulations that soldiers aren’t allowed doing “drills” for  other foreign armies (makes sense) but also not allow doing drills for domestic “organizations“. Would that include stuff like Freemasons?

[mariomike]

Also saw in the regulations that soldiers aren’t allowed doing “drills” for  other foreign armies (makes sense) but also not allow doing drills for domestic “organizations“. Would that include stuff like Freemasons?

Not that I am aware of. But, you can check here,

Freemasonry 
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=49904.50
10 pages.