Author Topic: Selection Dates 2013-2018  (Read 761331 times)

0 Members and 3 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline Buck_HRA

    .

  • Directing Staff
  • Sr. Member
  • *
  • 28,280
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 682
    • CAF - Find a Recruiter
Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1700 on: February 22, 2018, 15:45:27 »
I've read that the hold up is all because of limited BMOQ spots for DEO candidates, is there a reasonably approximate date where these DEO spots at BMOQ will once again be freeing up?
That is true.  CFRG HQ holds the authority for recruiting and intake; however BMQ/BMOQ serials are controlled by CFLRS (Canadian Forces Leadership & Recruit School); at the moment CFLRS hasn't given it's course information to CFRG HQ for BMOQ so there's a delay.  I have been told this is in the process of being resolved; however that's the problem as it exists today.

Offline Piece of Cake

  • Army.ca Subscriber
  • Jr. Member
  • *
  • 2,520
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 87
Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1701 on: February 23, 2018, 07:52:20 »
Now I'm disappointed at the recruiter who told me back in late Spring of last year that there were no more positions available for DEO Int (which my degree is well suited for) and I settled for DEO Log.

DEO Int is very selective. While a person's education may meet the minimum requirements, it may not meet the preferred.  For DEO Int the preferred is a master degree, or an undergraduate with experience in int (e.g. CSIS).

Hope this helps.
« Last Edit: February 23, 2018, 17:25:56 by Piece of Cake »
Policy is more than black and white.  We need to not only understand the spirit of why a policy was written, but also how the policy affects people.

Offline Roger123

  • Member
  • ****
  • 3,255
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 120
Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1702 on: February 23, 2018, 13:04:32 »
Hey Buck,
Looking to see if projected Pilot Selections for Feb went through and if there is any 17/18 spots remaining.


Offline Buck_HRA

    .

  • Directing Staff
  • Sr. Member
  • *
  • 28,280
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 682
    • CAF - Find a Recruiter
Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1703 on: February 23, 2018, 15:02:44 »
DEO Int is very selective. While a person's education may meet the minimum requirements, it may not meet the preferred.  For DEO Int the preferred is a master degree, or an undergraduate with experience in int (e.g. CSIS).

Hope this helps.

Good Day, I'm not sure where you're getting this information but a Masters Degree is not "preferred" for IntO. 

For academics, the ideal is a Baccalaureate degree in Conflict Studies, Computer Science, Global Studies/Development, History, International Relations/Studies, Military and Strategic Studies, Political Science/Polics or a Bachelor of Engineering in Computers.  There is no mention of a Masters Degree in the Entry Standards.

As for the experience, the request is that someone has deployed operational experience (6 months cumulative) or at least 1 year of experience working in an intelligence or security position at a government agency department (e.g. CBA, CSC, CSE, CSIS, DFATD, DND, CAF, FINTRAC, OPP, PCO, PSC, RCMP, SQ, TC) or has attained the Source Handling Operator Course.

Hey Buck,
Looking to see if projected Pilot Selections for Feb went through and if there is any 17/18 spots remaining.
There was not a Selections for Pilot yet in February.  As of today's date there are still 20 positions remaining for Pilot DEO for 17/18.

Offline Piece of Cake

  • Army.ca Subscriber
  • Jr. Member
  • *
  • 2,520
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 87
Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1704 on: February 23, 2018, 15:17:49 »
Good Day, I'm not sure where you're getting this information but a Masters Degree is not "preferred" for IntO. 

For academics, the ideal is a Baccalaureate degree in Conflict Studies, Computer Science, Global Studies/Development, History, International Relations/Studies, Military and Strategic Studies, Political Science/Polics or a Bachelor of Engineering in Computers.  There is no mention of a Masters Degree in the Entry Standards.

As for the experience, the request is that someone has deployed operational experience (6 months cumulative) or at least 1 year of experience working in an intelligence or security position at a government agency department (e.g. CBA, CSC, CSE, CSIS, DFATD, DND, CAF, FINTRAC, OPP, PCO, PSC, RCMP, SQ, TC) or has attained the Source Handling Operator Course.
There was not a Selections for Pilot yet in February.  As of today's date there are still 20 positions remaining for Pilot DEO for 17/18.

There is a lot of mis-information out there.  For example, on CAF's own website it says;

HARDING: Or if you already have a degree in Geography, Economics, Journalism, International Studies or a related field from a Canadian university, you can move straight to the Forces under what’s called the Direct Entry plan with an officer’s salary, benefits and pension kicking in the day you join.

Source: https://www.canada.ca/en/department-national-defence/services/caf-jobs/career-options/fields-work/other-specialty-occupations/intelligence-officer.html#overview
click on transcript.

As for the Master degree, I will attempt to locate the source, and post when it is found. As for now, I stand corrected.  Thanks Buck.
« Last Edit: February 23, 2018, 17:27:28 by Piece of Cake »
Policy is more than black and white.  We need to not only understand the spirit of why a policy was written, but also how the policy affects people.

Offline OceanBonfire

  • Member
  • ****
  • 2,535
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 119
Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1705 on: February 23, 2018, 16:51:27 »
DEO Int is very selective. While a person's education may meet the minimum requirements, it may not meet the preferred.  For DEO Int the preferred is a master degree, or an undergraduate with experience in int (e.g. CSIS).

Hope this helps.

There is a lot of mis-information out there.  For example, on CAF's own website it says;

HARDING: Or if you already have a degree in Geography, Economics, Journalism, International Studies or a related field from a Canadian university, you can move straight to the Forces under what’s called the Direct Entry plan with an officer’s salary, benefits and pension kicking in the day you join.

Source: https://www.canada.ca/en/department-national-defence/services/caf-jobs/career-options/fields-work/other-specialty-occupations/intelligence-officer.html#overview
click on transcript.

As for the Master degree, I will attempt to locate the source, and post when it is found. As for now, I stand corrected.  Thanks Buck.

I don't know where you get your information but when I applied years ago for ROTP - Civilian University (declined the offer) and now for DEO, nowhere did it mentioned a Master's degree as a preference back then for DEO in the previous forces.gc.ca layout nor in the current layout.

Some of the videos are extremely old and haven't been updated for a very long time. Preferences should be considered as undefinitive preferences.
« Last Edit: February 23, 2018, 17:00:02 by OceanBonfire »
Recruiting Center: Montreal
Regular/Reserve: Regular Force
Officer/NCM: Officer (DEO)
Occupation choice: Logistics Officer
Current application: March 28, 2017
CFAT: Previously completed in November 2011
Interview: July 11, 2017
Medical: August 2017
Competition list: October/November 2017
Position Offered: May 25, 2018
Swearing In: August 21, 2018
BMOQ: August 25, 2018
BMOQ Graduation: November 16, 2018

Offline Piece of Cake

  • Army.ca Subscriber
  • Jr. Member
  • *
  • 2,520
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 87
Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1706 on: February 23, 2018, 17:00:39 »
I don't know where you get your information but when I applied years ago for ROTP - Civilian University (declined the offer) and now for DEO, nowhere did it mentioned a Master's degree as a preference back then for DEO in the previous forces.gc.ca layout nor in the current layout.

Now I'm disappointed at the recruiter who told me back in late Spring of last year that there were no more positions available for DEO Int (which my degree is well suited for) and I settled for DEO Log.

Hi OceanBonfire,

If you're interested in how to be more competitive for DEO int, I recommend that you speak with someone at the CFRC.

Good luck.
Policy is more than black and white.  We need to not only understand the spirit of why a policy was written, but also how the policy affects people.

Offline Buck_HRA

    .

  • Directing Staff
  • Sr. Member
  • *
  • 28,280
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 682
    • CAF - Find a Recruiter
Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1707 on: February 23, 2018, 17:02:22 »
There is a lot of mis-information out there.  For example, on CAF's own website it says;

HARDING: Or if you already have a degree in Geography, Economics, Journalism, International Studies or a related field from a Canadian university, you can move straight to the Forces under what’s called the Direct Entry plan with an officer’s salary, benefits and pension kicking in the day you join.

Source: https://www.canada.ca/en/department-national-defence/services/caf-jobs/career-options/fields-work/other-specialty-occupations/intelligence-officer.html#overview
click on transcript.



That is not part of the CAF website persay: considering the transcript starts off with

"I’m Major Jim Godefroy. I’m an Intelligence Officer from Montreal, Quebec, and I work at the Canadian Forces Joint Imagery Centre in Ottawa, Ontario.

And I’m Lieutenant Navy Sharlene Harding from Brampton, Ontario. I’m an Intelligence Officer serving with the Canadian Forces Support Training Group in Kingston."

The people in the video are Captain Nicholas Weishaar and Major Raphael Guy; so right there that should tell you the the transcript is not accurate.

I will let the Virtual Recruiting team know about the issue so that it can be taken up the Chain of Command and fixed.

Offline OceanBonfire

  • Member
  • ****
  • 2,535
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 119
Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1708 on: February 23, 2018, 17:03:49 »
Hi OceanBonfire,

If you're interested in how to be more competitive for DEO int, I recommend that you speak with someone at the CFRC.

Good luck.

I don't know where you're going with this but I went through the whole application process so I did spoke to recruiters and MCCs at my recruiting center for all the occupations I was interested in.
Recruiting Center: Montreal
Regular/Reserve: Regular Force
Officer/NCM: Officer (DEO)
Occupation choice: Logistics Officer
Current application: March 28, 2017
CFAT: Previously completed in November 2011
Interview: July 11, 2017
Medical: August 2017
Competition list: October/November 2017
Position Offered: May 25, 2018
Swearing In: August 21, 2018
BMOQ: August 25, 2018
BMOQ Graduation: November 16, 2018

Offline andychun1216

  • Guest
  • *
  • 300
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 9
Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1709 on: February 23, 2018, 22:31:49 »
Hi! I'm wondering if there was any selection for ROTP Pilot for current FY and how many spots are left currently.
Thanks in advance.

Offline Harsheth5

  • Guest
  • *
  • 335
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 15
Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1710 on: February 24, 2018, 18:17:22 »
Thanks for the information.
« Last Edit: February 24, 2018, 21:07:46 by Harsheth5 »

Offline AspiringHSO

  • Guest
  • *
  • 610
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 13
Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1711 on: February 25, 2018, 18:57:16 »
Good evening, Buck. Do you have any information about how many SEELM Physio spots are available for the 2018/19 FY and when selection might start occurring for them?

Thanks.

Offline Hawk242

  • Guest
  • *
  • 10
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 1
Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1712 on: February 25, 2018, 23:36:42 »
Good Evening
     I was wondering if you could provide some information on the CEOTP-Pilot program. It is my understanding that this entry program is not normally fully filled and was wondering if selection for 17/18 is still possible or if it will be the 18/19 FY.  Also if possible could you provide details on how of this program is selected off the merit list. In the posting of entry program and selection dates there is no listing for CEOTP.  Is it selected on its own or does it fall under ROTP or DEO selection dates?

Thanks for The help.

Offline simplysecond

  • Guest
  • *
  • 50
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 5
Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1713 on: March 01, 2018, 15:07:15 »
Is there any news on the last selection date(s) for the 2017/2018 FY? I imagine they will be happening soon before we rollover to the 2018/2019 FY intake.

Thanks

Offline Trueprince2

  • New Member
  • **
  • 1,080
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 43
Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1714 on: March 01, 2018, 20:08:52 »
Any chance for me to know what's left for infantry, atis, and supply tech

Offline Reaper10

  • Guest
  • *
  • 20
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 11
Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1715 on: March 01, 2018, 21:42:53 »
Hey Buck any idea when the next selection is for comm’s research is?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Offline Harsheth5

  • Guest
  • *
  • 335
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 15
Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1716 on: March 02, 2018, 10:13:43 »
Hi Buck
Just want to know that if selection occurred on 28th Feb or again it's been cancelled. And If it occurred, does any Infantry officer selected?
Thanks

Offline Ryan_T

  • Jr. Member
  • ***
  • -100
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 66
Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1717 on: March 02, 2018, 13:48:47 »
I haven't been on this forum in a long time.
I am just wondering that since the new fiscal year starts in April (at least that is what my recruiting ctr said) I am curious to know how many sup tech position are currently available. I know right now it says 'direct entry', but I am just curious. Kinda interesting how I never see anyone mentioning about joining that trade.

Offline Trueprince2

  • New Member
  • **
  • 1,080
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 43
Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1718 on: March 02, 2018, 16:46:37 »
I haven't been on this forum in a long time.
I am just wondering that since the new fiscal year starts in April (at least that is what my recruiting ctr said) I am curious to know how many sup tech position are currently available. I know right now it says 'direct entry', but I am just curious. Kinda interesting how I never see anyone mentioning about joining that trade.
i just mentioned it 2-3 post ago :p

Offline Ryan_T

  • Jr. Member
  • ***
  • -100
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 66
Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1719 on: March 02, 2018, 17:01:04 »
i just mentioned it 2-3 post ago :p
Ahh yes. I see that. Sorry. I guess we shall wait for a response.

Offline Reaper10

  • Guest
  • *
  • 20
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 11
Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1720 on: March 03, 2018, 20:11:10 »
Just got the call Friday for comm’s research apr 16


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Offline Trueprince2

  • New Member
  • **
  • 1,080
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 43
Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1721 on: March 03, 2018, 21:37:11 »
Just got the call Friday for comm’s research apr 16


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I didn't know they worked on Saturdays, congratulations can't wait for my call!

Offline Reaper10

  • Guest
  • *
  • 20
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 11
Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1722 on: March 03, 2018, 21:38:24 »
I didn't know they worked on Saturdays, congratulations can't wait for my call!
Friday lol.  Friday. 


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Offline Trueprince2

  • New Member
  • **
  • 1,080
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 43
Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1723 on: March 03, 2018, 23:08:03 »
Friday lol.  Friday. 


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
My apologizes, I saw someone else saying they got a letter and I confused the two and didn't even read before replying, I stand correct.
Edit: Also kinda jealous awaiting mine :p

Offline Reaper10

  • Guest
  • *
  • 20
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 11
Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1724 on: March 03, 2018, 23:17:03 »
My apologizes, I saw someone else saying they got a letter and I confused the two and didn't even read before replying, I stand correct.
Edit: Also kinda jealous awaiting mine :p
When did you apply


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk