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Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1750 on: March 15, 2018, 11:57:06 »
Hi Buck, do you know how many Legal O positions are open for FY 2017/2018 and also if there is a selection board coming soon? Thank you a lot for your answer.

As of today's date there are still approx 40% of the DEO LEG positions remaining for FY 17/18.  Because of how the legal branch does their selections it is not information available to recruiters when the selection boards occur.  I would reach out to the legal branch to find out when and if you might be selected.

Hi Buck,
Any positions left for DEO NWO for 17/18? Any selections planned for the near future?
Thanks

As of today's date there is still slightly over 30% remaining for NWO for FY 17/18.  Yes, there are 2 planned selections between now and end of Fiscal Year.

Hey buck,

Do the 17/18 left deo position selections have started to fill up? My recrutment center told me that the next on planned is march 28th. Is it the last one for 17/18?

Planned selections can change for a variety of reasons which is why I don't state specific dates on here; however CFRG has done 1 selection in March for DEO already and there are 2 more planned still.

Good day Buck,

To add to Milerup's question, I'm just wondering if the planned DEO selection on March 28th will cover all occupations - including combat specialists. It seems that whenever a selection did happen within the last 5 month period, Infantry DEO was not up for consideration. My MCC told me to expect an offer in Jan/Feb, but it would appear that no one received any offers since late 2017.

So does CFRG HQ actually plan to give out offers for the unfilled positions for 17/18 FY? Or is it simply the case that - as you've mentioned in the DEO intake number thread - the numbers are subject to change without notice, which means we might not receive any offers until we are well into the 18/19 FY (since there is no guarantee that the 18 unfilled spots will translate to offers before April 1st)? Many thanks Buck.

1) Please note that the term specialist is just that for specialists (i.e. the individual will make more than "basic" pay).  While Infantry Officers are a combat occupation they are not "combat specialists".
2) Infantry DEO have been part of the recent selections, and will be in the next 2 selections until the remaining intake is 0 (please note that as of today there less than 20% positions remaining for DEO Infantry for FY 17/18).

Hi Buck,

When you have a moment, could you please let me know if and/or how many positions remain for the trade of Construction Engineering Officer under the DEO entry plan and when the next projected selection date would possibly take place?

Thanks for your efforts,
wnhan

As of today's date there are approx 20% positions remaining for DEO CONST ENGR for FY 17/18. I don't give specific dates of planned selections as the specific date can change for a variety of reasons; but I can state that there are still 2 planned selections before the end of the FY.

Hello Buck,

Congratulatuons to the previous pilot who got an offer. I was wondering Buck if you know how many spots are left for this fiscal year (17/18) now that a couple selections went through, and/or whether or not they started on the next fiscal year yet. Do you know much about the pilot trade? Does the DEO selection generally take in as many as possible at one time for pilots? Also, do you know how many people are on the competition list? Ive been waiting since August and I'm not sure when to give up and just realise its not happening. Thanks!

As of today's date there are approx 20% of positions remaining for DEO PLT for FY 17/18.
I would not state they take in as many as possible; the CAF has been recruiting for a number of years and based on this they know the PCL/MP scores of those selected in previous years and will strive to select individuals at the same scores or higher in future years. 
As to how many individuals are on the Competition List; this information will never be made public as it constantly changes.  I could log into the system at 8am and see 40 people there, log in again at 10am to find 37 and again at 4pm to find 44.

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Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1751 on: March 15, 2018, 13:47:08 »
Hey Buck,

Any information on ROTP selections for 18/19?

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Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1752 on: March 15, 2018, 14:15:15 »
Now this is interesting, if there was infantry selection, why I didn't receive any offer. I am in compeition list from early September 2017. I guess there would be someone senior in compeition list or else selectors don't think I am competitive. Questions for you buck, if someone is not been selected, do you with reason let them know after sometime or I should assume it after certain period?
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Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1753 on: March 15, 2018, 16:01:33 »
Hey Buck,

Any information on ROTP selections for 18/19?

Selections are ongoing.

Now this is interesting, if there was infantry selection, why I didn't receive any offer. I am in compeition list from early September 2017. I guess there would be someone senior in compeition list or else selectors don't think I am competitive. Questions for you buck, if someone is not been selected, do you with reason let them know after sometime or I should assume it after certain period?

I know of people who have been on the Competition List much longer than 6 months; the fact that you weren't selected means that whoever was selected had a higher score.  Where you sit on the competition list changes on a daily basis.  My suggestion would be to ask your file manager / recruiter how competitive your file is.

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Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1754 on: March 15, 2018, 16:24:56 »
AS an online forum, I just want to comment that the word 'competitive' is so thrown out a lot here and had diminished value in its meaning.

My application (DEO) had also been sitting on the 'competition list' since about September 2017 and since then I followed up every month. I was told I will hear back end of November, December, early January, February, etc. And had not received any offer either.

According to the file manager, the good news was that my application is competitive -- because it made it on the competition list!

An applicant should really just call/email their CFRC for information on their application. Information posted on online forum, social media, and the internet in general should be fact-checked for credibility/validity.

Good luck on your application! And congrats to those who are receiving offers!!

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Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1755 on: March 15, 2018, 17:02:52 »
To get information from Toronto recruitment office, is like trying to meet Justin Trudeau. No one take phone calls and emails are usually replied after almost 3 to 4 weeks.

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Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1756 on: March 15, 2018, 19:42:24 »

Infantry DEO have been part of the recent selections, and will be in the next 2 selections until the remaining intake is 0 (please note that as of today there less than 20% positions remaining for DEO Infantry for FY 17/18).


Appreciate your help, Buck. I think we are all just a bit anxious seeing how it's the end of the fiscal year, haha.

Guys, making the competition list is no guarantee of a job offer. Even though we might be told it's only a matter of time, many people don't hear back for years, if ever. For Infantry DEO alone there are several hundreds that are on the list currently, with only limited openings. Recruiters will never let you know where exactly you sit on that list, but will provide frank estimations to your chances if you are keen enough. Talk to them (in person at the local RC if you must) and try to get an answer. Unfortunately if you are nowhere close to top then you really should try to improve your application or seriously consider other options.
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Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1757 on: March 16, 2018, 09:02:43 »
Thanks for your kind suggestion.
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Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1758 on: March 16, 2018, 14:36:14 »
How long does an application last until it is closed and you must apply again. I am having some difficulties with my medical that I believe will be solved eventually.


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Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1759 on: March 16, 2018, 20:35:25 »
AS an online forum, I just want to comment that the word 'competitive' is so thrown out a lot here and had diminished value in its meaning.

My application (DEO) had also been sitting on the 'competition list' since about September 2017 and since then I followed up every month. I was told I will hear back end of November, December, early January, February, etc. And had not received any offer either.

According to the file manager, the good news was that my application is competitive -- because it made it on the competition list!

An applicant should really just call/email their CFRC for information on their application. Information posted on online forum, social media, and the internet in general should be fact-checked for credibility/validity.

Good luck on your application! And congrats to those who are receiving offers!!

Welcome to forum and congratulations on your first post.

I have maintained and will continue to maintain that a person's recruiter/file manager/MCC (i.e. CFRC Recruiting Staff) is the most accurate point of contact as these people have access to a person's file and can talk about it with them; with that said my comments and direction in here is accepted due to my experience in the Recruiting System. 
 
Note that the term "competition list" is an official Recruiting Term; once a file has all the appropriate paperwork completed and the applicant is eligible to receive an offer of employment they go into what is called a "Competition List".  It is literally a list of applicants that have reached a "competition" for a job offer from the CAF. 

To get information from Toronto recruitment office, is like trying to meet Justin Trudeau. No one take phone calls and emails are usually replied after almost 3 to 4 weeks.

CFRC Southern Ontario detachment Toronto is one of the busiest CFRC detachments in Canada; sometimes they are that back logged on being able to assist individuals who email and call in - however if your communication goes unanswered you can reach out to the CFRG Customer Service Team (their email address is in my profile) and they can assist in reaching out to the detachment and getting someone to get in touch with you.

How long does an application last until it is closed and you must apply again. I am having some difficulties with my medical that I believe will be solved eventually.


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Applications can remain open for years at times.  The key point to remember is that certain items in the process "expire" and you must get them up to date to remain on the competition list.  Interviews and Medicals both remain valid for 1 year from the date they were done; if an interview expires an abridged interview can be completed.  Security Checks also expire, I don't have the policies at home with me but I believe (and will check and correct if I'm wrong) that the security check is also valid for 1 year.  CFAT/TSD are good for life; once you do it once you never have to do them again.

If you are serious about wanting to join the CAF I recommend touching base with your CFRC detachment at least once a month; this way if anything expires the staff can let you know that you need to update information.

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Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1760 on: March 17, 2018, 11:17:16 »
Hi buck,

Just wondering how long 17/18 spots remaining can be open in the 18/19 fidcal year. Meaning can they still be spots in july for 17-18? Or at some points they get erased!

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Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1761 on: March 20, 2018, 06:50:25 »
Hey buck,

I got i call today from montreal recrutement offering me a job until the next french bmoq in august (because apparently the one in may as no entry). I have found no info online on type on duty/pay rate etc. Was wondering if anybody knew of that type of offer.

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Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1762 on: March 20, 2018, 10:57:15 »
Hey buck,

I got i call today from montreal recrutement offering me a job until the next french bmoq in august (because apparently the one in may as no entry). I have found no info online on type on duty/pay rate etc. Was wondering if anybody knew of that type of offer.

Thanks a lot

I heard there was a selection yesterday May 19 but I didn't think they'd call successful candidates this quickly; i thought it would take another 8-10 days from selection to job offer. If the August BMOQ is instructed in French, are the two serials in May instructed in English? Or are the May serials no entry because they are all filled up? Can you please clarify these too Buck, thank you very much.
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Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1763 on: March 20, 2018, 17:38:17 »
I heard there was a selection yesterday May 19 but I didn't think they'd call successful candidates this quickly; i thought it would take another 8-10 days from selection to job offer. If the August BMOQ is instructed in French, are the two serials in May instructed in English? Or are the May serials no entry because they are all filled up? Can you please clarify these too Buck, thank you very much.

Looks like the serials in August are instructed in French and English. The one starting May 14th is English only, but apparently the serials starting May 7th are both English and French as well (haven't seen anyone on this forum saying that they have been slotted into the May 7th BMOQ though). Source http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/training-establishments/recruit-school.page

L0085E & L0086E   March 12, 2018 - June 14, 2018
L0001F & L0002E   May 7, 2018 - July 26, 2018
L0003E   May 14, 2018 - August 2, 2018
L0004E & L0005F   August 27, 2018 - November 15, 2018
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Congrats Milerup on your offer. Looks like the waiting paid off.
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Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1764 on: March 20, 2018, 18:14:23 »
Is that what the F's and E's stand for in the serial number? :o
haven't seen anyone on this forum saying that they have been slotted into the May 7th BMOQ though
A little hopeful for that May 7th BMOQ. I expect we'll be hearing some people getting their calls in the next few days to be loaded into that serial. Best of luck guys! :D
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Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1765 on: March 20, 2018, 18:41:35 »
Is that what the F's and E's stand for in the serial number? :oA little hopeful for that May 7th BMOQ. I expect we'll be hearing some people getting their calls in the next few days to be loaded into that serial. Best of luck guys! :D

Haha good point. E=English F=French seems a fair assumption to make, but I can't find anything conclusive to back this up on the CFLRS webpage. Need someone who actually knows what's up for confirmation (I'd sure look like a total idiot if the E and F don't stand for what I think they do).  ;D

Btw Gazor where did you hear about a selection happening on March 19th? My recruiter told me the next one would be March 28th. I'd be much happier if a selection did take place yesterday, but Milerup could have been selected from previous weeks and was only informed of it just now. 

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Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1766 on: March 20, 2018, 19:21:21 »
Haha good point. E=English F=French seems a fair assumption to make, but I can't find anything conclusive to back this up on the CFLRS webpage. Need someone who actually knows what's up for confirmation (I'd sure look like a total idiot if the E and F doesn't stand for what I think they do).  ;D

Btw Gazor where did you hear about a selection happening on March 19th? My recruiter told me the next one would be March 28th. I'd be much happier if a selection did take place yesterday, but Milerup could have been selected from previous weeks and was only informed of it just now.

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Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1767 on: March 20, 2018, 19:35:17 »
Btw Gazor where did you hear about a selection happening on March 19th? My recruiter told me the next one would be March 28th. I'd be much happier if a selection did take place yesterday, but Milerup could have been selected from previous weeks and was only informed of it just now.
I was told by my recruiter the week before. I don't know if its for all trades; i was told NWO was included. I haven't heard of any selections from the previous weeks as well as anyone in the forum getting their calls these past few days. I'd like to think CFRC Montreal might have been updated faster than say CFRC Regina? Who knows, I guess the anticipation is getting to me hehe ;D
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Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1768 on: March 20, 2018, 19:55:11 »
Just to give you little more info about that offer, because i assume it is really not common. They offered me a potential job to montreal recruitment center while waiting for the august training. As he told me, because of my score, even if i refuse that temporary job, I will eventually be slotted into the one in august (he told me I was on the top of competition list)

The actual trade offer was to be confirmed and officially offered as per my resquesy before accepting that offer. (i applied either for const.eng or Engr).

Also i have no clue about duties/salaries of that temporary job so I am waiting for more info!

The may 7 both F and E as 0 spot filled up in then.

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Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1769 on: March 20, 2018, 21:33:50 »
Yes. Your assumption is correct. It's a common standard to differentiate the language of a course. You may or may not always see it's use after Basic.

Good to know. Cheers, mate.  :nod:

I was told by my recruiter the week before. I don't know if its for all trades; i was told NWO was included. I haven't heard of any selections from the previous weeks as well as anyone in the forum getting their calls these past few days. I'd like to think CFRC Montreal might have been updated faster than say CFRC Regina? Who knows, I guess the anticipation is getting to me hehe ;D

Yeah looks like the dates could be because we're gunning for different trades. I was specific to my recruiter about selection for infantry DEO and so was told that it would be March 28th. The anticipation is absolutely killing me here.

The may 7 both F and E as 0 spot filled up in then.

Good luck to all for further selections!

Sounds like you got yourself a pretty sweet deal. Congrats again.

It's strange that none have been selected for the May 7th serials though. According to the forum people are getting offers for the May 14th BMOQ, so not sure why the May 7th serials have 0 spots filled for now.
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Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1770 on: March 20, 2018, 21:44:22 »


It's strange that none have been selected for the May 7th serials though. According to the forum people are getting offers for the May 14th BMOQ, so not sure why the May 7th serials have 0 spots filled for now.

He told me it is probably because of officer position being cut down. So the may 7th class is not required anymore. Althought it was the only french one in a while. English has may 14th, which is not bad!
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Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1771 on: March 20, 2018, 23:02:51 »

It's strange that none have been selected for the May 7th serials though. According to the forum people are getting offers for the May 14th BMOQ, so not sure why the May 7th serials have 0 spots filled for now.

In regards to the May 7th BMOQ, just judging by the length of the course ( 2 months vs the typical 3), I am willing to bet that these 2 serials are specific to students attending RMC. They typically complete their course in 2 phases spread over a couple of summers.

Can’t confirm this but it would fall in line with what typically happens every summer.


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Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1772 on: March 21, 2018, 01:14:16 »
In regards to the May 7th BMOQ, just judging by the length of the course ( 2 months vs the typical 3), I am willing to bet that these 2 serials are specific to students attending RMC. They typically complete their course in 2 phases spread over a couple of summers.

Can’t confirm this but it would fall in line with what typically happens every summer.


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What Milerup says is plausible, but sounds really drastic. I mean, cutting down 2 BMOQ serials represents a considerable loss of officers at a time when CAF is supposedly growing to meet new needs. Plus why not just delete these serials instead of plastering them online for all to see if they will no longer be held...

But White, your numbers don't add up. The BMOQ length for the May, August and September serials are identical: approximately 2.5 month each. The only anomaly are the two serials starting March 12, 2018, which lasts for 3 months. Not necessarily saying your RMC explanation is wrong, it makes sense, but there is no difference in course length between the May, Aug and Sept BMOQs.

Can anyone clarify what's going on with the May 7th BMOQs and why people are being slotted into later ones?

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Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1773 on: March 21, 2018, 12:17:52 »
Do medical officers talk directly with civilian physicians about one's medical file?




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Re: Selection Dates 2013-2018
« Reply #1774 on: March 21, 2018, 14:26:49 »
Do medical officers talk directly with civilian physicians about one's medical file?


Medical officers do not even share medical information to file manager or recruiters. Also, the selection team only knows an individual medical is approved or not. Medical information is considered to be very private.

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