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Re: BMQ / BMOQ - Medical, Dental, Mental health questions [Merged]
« Reply #100 on: May 07, 2005, 13:15:26 »
old medic knows of what he speaks. The question has been answered, with the appropriate references.
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Re: BMQ / BMOQ - Medical, Dental, Mental health questions [Merged]
« Reply #101 on: January 22, 2006, 18:37:54 »
I saw the lenghty, but very interesting BMQ video. THe blood test part they show really caught my eye, what do they do that for? Anyways, thansk again for any info.Cheers!

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Re: BMQ / BMOQ - Medical, Dental, Mental health questions [Merged]
« Reply #102 on: January 22, 2006, 18:58:45 »
Hmmmm.  I guess you will find that out when you get there.  Good Luck.
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Re: BMQ / BMOQ - Medical, Dental, Mental health questions [Merged]
« Reply #103 on: January 30, 2006, 22:26:13 »
Hey guys,

I am currently waiting to put in my application for the reserves because I have a few months until I am 16. I just had one quick question. I know that there will be no vaccinations until BMQ. I have not had any vaccinations since the fifth grade due to a fear of needles. I was wondering if you can pick the spot where they inject you/ draw blood because I have a great fear of needles in the upper arm. :crybaby: I know this sounds like a really stupid question but please let me know! Thanks Guys! :salute:
« Last Edit: January 30, 2006, 22:30:15 by safeboy43 »
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Re: BMQ / BMOQ - Medical, Dental, Mental health questions [Merged]
« Reply #104 on: January 30, 2006, 22:32:30 »
They will stick it to you where they need to..............

I dont like needles either but suck it up  ::)

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Re: BMQ / BMOQ - Medical, Dental, Mental health questions [Merged]
« Reply #105 on: January 30, 2006, 22:44:00 »
its either your arm or your arse (in some cases) you pick...
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Re: BMQ / BMOQ - Medical, Dental, Mental health questions [Merged]
« Reply #106 on: January 30, 2006, 22:45:26 »
Ha ha OK I will and thanks for the advice. Do you get all the shots in a row or do they break it up in days or something?
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Re: BMQ / BMOQ - Medical, Dental, Mental health questions [Merged]
« Reply #107 on: January 30, 2006, 22:59:08 »
Your going into the reserve. You will not have a needle parade unless your going on operational deployment.
You, and your local health unit are still responsible for your vaccinations.   

If you were going into the regular forces, then you would attending needle parades at BMQ.

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Re: BMQ / BMOQ - Medical, Dental, Mental health questions [Merged]
« Reply #108 on: January 30, 2006, 23:12:35 »
Your going into the reserve. You will not have a needle parade unless your going on operational deployment.
You, and your local health unit are still responsible for your vaccinations.   

If you were going into the regular forces, then you would attending needle parades at BMQ.



I got a whole bunch of shots over my summer SQ/DP1 course. Getting a bunch more tomorrow before going on an ex way up north. The ex isn't part of pre-training, and I'm a reservist, so I find myself somewhat at odds with what you've said.

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Re: BMQ / BMOQ - Medical, Dental, Mental health questions [Merged]
« Reply #109 on: January 31, 2006, 00:56:36 »
I got a whole bunch of shots over my summer SQ/DP1 course. Getting a bunch more tomorrow before going on an ex way up north. The ex isn't part of pre-training, and I'm a reservist, so I find myself somewhat at odds with what you've said.

Where were you, and how long were you on class B when this happened?
You can read more on the subject here:
http://forums.army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,17989.0.html

and you can get an earlier opinion here:
http://forums.army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,17989.msg88231.html#msg88231

Was there some curcumstance that lead to you getting a needle? An injury, cut or puncture while there?
Did the whole course get the same?

Medical Directive 01/97 dated 09 April 1997, paragraph 28 confirms what's been said here.
http://www.forces.gc.ca/health/policies/surggen_med_directives/PDF/med_dir_1_97.pdf

If your going "up north" as in an isolated duty area, then your being immunized for that reason. ie. limited
assess to health care facilities as outlined in CFAO 34-14.



   
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Re: BMQ / BMOQ - Medical, Dental, Mental health questions [Merged]
« Reply #110 on: January 31, 2006, 10:01:24 »
Where were you, and how long were you on class B when this happened?
Was there some curcumstance that lead to you getting a needle? An injury, cut or puncture while there?
Did the whole course get the same?

If your going "up north" as in an isolated duty area, then your being immunized for that reason. ie. limited
assess to health care facilities as outlined in CFAO 34-14.

It was about 2 months of class B over the summer, and it wasn't due to injury. Not only did everyone on course get them, but all the recruits there on SQ/DP1 got the same...all 600 of them, about. Two visits to the medics for three and four shots, respectively.

As for the isolated duty area, that makes sense, getting sick up there would be pretty bad. Ex Polar Strike I is supposed to be pretty far from anywhere.
« Last Edit: January 31, 2006, 16:16:43 by Pte D. Krystal »

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Re: BMQ / BMOQ - Medical, Dental, Mental health questions [Merged]
« Reply #111 on: January 31, 2006, 11:51:39 »
Your going into the reserve. You will not have a needle parade unless your going on operational deployment.
You, and your local health unit are still responsible for your vaccinations.   

If you were going into the regular forces, then you would attending needle parades at BMQ.



In regards to the BMQ needle parade. Working with BC Ambulance I am required to up to date with various vaccinations, I just got a series of boosters last week. I am current with all others for quite some time yet. I really dont care if the CF has to redo mine, but is there some official documentation..let's say from the health unit I can provide at my BMQ showing that I am up to date? I have no needle book.

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Re: BMQ / BMOQ - Medical, Dental, Mental health questions [Merged]
« Reply #112 on: January 31, 2006, 11:57:12 »
OM, for the past two summers we've been running needle parades for all pers at the Chilliwack STC who are completing both BMQ and SQ (i.e. will be there for long enough to get the both Hep A and the 1st two Hep B shots). They also got MMR, TD, PPD if indicated,

I can't remember exactly when the direction came in, but I seem to recall spring of 2004 there being a directive on this.  It was a bit of a headache, tracking down peoples history, but I have to say I agree with it as a force protection measure.  

Safeboy (Edit: Sorry Pte Krystal,) we try to accommodate peoples phobias, and there will a semi-private area.  If there's an RN there, talk to him or her about it.  

Ryan, call the health unit you got your shots at, they should be able to provide you with the documentation.  Bring it with you to BMQ.  You may still get some from the CF, but you won't need all of them.

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Re: BMQ / BMOQ - Medical, Dental, Mental health questions [Merged]
« Reply #113 on: January 31, 2006, 16:18:54 »

Pte Krystal, we try to accommodate peoples phobias, and there will a semi-private area.  If there's an RN there, talk to him or her about it.  


Heh...I never said I was scared of needles...whenever I need to go for shots I just think about our last FIBUA training ex with the simmunition rounds. ;D

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Re: BMQ / BMOQ - Medical, Dental, Mental health questions [Merged]
« Reply #114 on: January 31, 2006, 17:11:32 »
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Re: BMQ / BMOQ - Medical, Dental, Mental health questions [Merged]
« Reply #115 on: January 31, 2006, 17:53:43 »
OM, for the past two summers we've been running needle parades for all pers at the Chilliwack STC who are completing both BMQ and SQ (i.e. will be there for long enough to get the both Hep A and the 1st two Hep B shots). They also got MMR, TD, PPD if indicated,

DF

Thanks DF,

I spent some time reading over every reference I could find or had on the subject and came up blank.  I think I'll move this thread over to the CFHS board and maybe someone can come up with a new reference. If something has changed that medical directive, then I want to get the right information in here. 

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Re: BMQ / BMOQ - Medical, Dental, Mental health questions [Merged]
« Reply #116 on: January 31, 2006, 20:58:59 »
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Re: BMQ / BMOQ - Medical, Dental, Mental health questions [Merged]
« Reply #117 on: January 31, 2006, 21:03:48 »
It boils down to:  Do Reserves get immunized during BMQ?

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Re: BMQ / BMOQ - Medical, Dental, Mental health questions [Merged]
« Reply #118 on: January 31, 2006, 21:04:51 »
We're looking for the reference for the latest directive for Reserve immunizations during BMQ/SQ at Summer training Centers.

I had it in my last job, I left that file there.  I'll stick my head in this week and see if I can find it.

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Re: BMQ / BMOQ - Medical, Dental, Mental health questions [Merged]
« Reply #119 on: February 01, 2006, 11:38:21 »
It's a lot easier for the CF to vaccinate you, otherwise they have to go to through the trouble of putting the mind control drugs in your food.
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Re: BMQ / BMOQ - Medical, Dental, Mental health questions [Merged]
« Reply #120 on: February 01, 2006, 11:49:18 »
It's a lot easier for the CF to vaccinate you, otherwise they have to go to through the trouble of putting the mind control drugs in your food.
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Well then vaccines are prolly cheaper than mind control drugs ;)
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Re: BMQ / BMOQ - Medical, Dental, Mental health questions [Merged]
« Reply #121 on: February 01, 2006, 15:30:03 »
Safeboy43,
What I meant was that the mind control drugs were already in the vaccines and administered that way, whereas if you were not vaccinated the CF has to put the mind control drugs in the food and they tend to give mashed potatoes a metallic taste, at least they did when I worked on the project, which is why we preferred to put them in vaccines.
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Re: BMQ / BMOQ - Medical, Dental, Mental health questions [Merged]
« Reply #122 on: February 01, 2006, 23:51:52 »
haha sorry I thought you were joking. I thought they wouldn't need mind control drugs to "brainwash"you.??? But anyways my mistake. Sorry there bro :salute:
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Re: BMQ / BMOQ - Medical, Dental, Mental health questions [Merged]
« Reply #123 on: February 02, 2006, 09:19:26 »
I feel as though we've stumbled upon something significant...

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Re: BMQ / BMOQ - Medical, Dental, Mental health questions [Merged]
« Reply #124 on: February 02, 2006, 11:07:57 »
Yes, I don't think a recruiter would tell you about that.....


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