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Re: BMQ / BMOQ - Medical, Dental, Mental health questions [Merged]
« Reply #50 on: August 02, 2004, 16:57:13 »
Why did they take blood? I never had blood drawn

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Re: BMQ / BMOQ - Medical, Dental, Mental health questions [Merged]
« Reply #51 on: August 03, 2004, 11:31:50 »
Um....was the guy alright?

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« Reply #52 on: February 24, 2005, 12:26:09 »
Hey guys;  for the topic of the Vaccination Book... whenever you hear you have an immunization parade, medical appointment or any other DAG type event ALWAYS have your book. Even though we in DCOS FHP streams are putting the immunizations in a computer database we do not have the time to look up all the personnels records (ie DAGing 100+ in a morning).  For some bases, no book no stick!!! Ie. I will not read a PPD result without the book, because I can't technically write in the result at a later time. AND btw.... an immunization parade IS a parade and you must attend if ordered to!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just spent the last 3 months working on various immunization parades for both the reserves and the Reg F; PMed tech have no problem if you show up with an old book BUT AT LEAST TRY TO HAVE YOUR BLUE BOOK IF YOU HAVE ONE! If you do not have one I suggest you go and get one, again see your UMS/PMed sect, they will transcript from your yellow book to the blue.

The policy in regards to Vaccination refusal here in Valcartier is that we make you read the regulation and you must sign that you have read it. If you still refuse administrative action can be taken.

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« Reply #53 on: April 06, 2005, 16:26:19 »
Hello,

I was finally sworn in, heading up to bmq this sunday the 10th but i have a slight problem.. My family has been sick for 2 weeks so far and i was trying everything not to get sick, now that there colds reached the end i must have caught it. I was loosing my voice when i was getting sworn in and now i started to cough and have nasal congestion. I am pissed as hell and dont know what to do, i am taking tons of drugs, syrups anything i can. My flight is in 4 days, i feel like crap and dont know what to do. What would happen if i got there with a cold. Man i seriously cant believe this bs, why didnt it catch on to me 2 weeks ago. The cold hit me hard today. What should i do??

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« Reply #54 on: April 06, 2005, 16:31:01 »
I don't know about policies, but I would just say tough it out, it's 10 weeks long man...

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« Reply #55 on: April 06, 2005, 18:18:47 »
The only thing you can do is just suck it up and do your best while trying to recover as best you can.
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« Reply #56 on: April 06, 2005, 18:36:27 »
Jarko,

When I went through recruit training in 1988 (Cornwallis, NS), I caught a killer cold about 1/2 way thru.  All I can say is "soldier on!".  Keep a can-do attitude and you'll do fine.  My experience with that was it didn't take long for the cold to disappear and I can still remember my Master Corporal telling me to close my mouth during drill practice!  (I couldn't breathe through my nose, I was so stuffed up)

I remember answering "Yeff, Mafter Corbral!" -- LOL

Good Luck on your course!  You'll do fine if you have the correct attitude!

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« Reply #57 on: April 06, 2005, 18:38:50 »
Sensitivity is not the CF's strong suit. Be prepared for "if the Canadian Forces had wanted to you to have a cold, they would have issued you one." Having said that, it will all work out. Good luck and good soldiering.

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« Reply #58 on: April 07, 2005, 15:16:34 »
Suck it up Buttercup!!! You'll be fine. You'll be too busy to remember you even have a cold. Good luck and soldier on.
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« Reply #59 on: April 07, 2005, 15:16:52 »
Buddy, you have to just soldier on and tough it out. If it makes you feel any better, or reassures you, I currently have Mono and I have had to do my entire FTX with it. At the beginning you will have lots of opportunities to sneak off to the bathroom and blow your nose, this is from a reservist standpoint, but the worst that happens is that you keep a rag in your pocket and blow your nose with it whenever you have the chance... also remember to DRINK alot since the air quality is never great in armouries and get a medical chit the first opportunity you have if you want to get out of some PT and drill... you will pay for this later though   >:D
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« Reply #60 on: April 07, 2005, 15:18:22 »
Not alot you can do about your cold - it'll go away on it's own.   Drink lots (water ;D) and get alot of rest before you go.   Believe me - I'd rather have a cold in recruit school than an injury - the cold will go away (and you get to give it to others at that) - and the injury might not for some time.   Try to have a good one.

On another note - Backinblack - what was your serial in Cornwallis?   I was a 5 Platoon, 8835.

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« Reply #61 on: April 07, 2005, 15:39:44 »
Yeah I had a cold during 1st half of my BMQ, I kept all the napkins from breakfast+lunch+dinner in my combat pants pockets and used'm whenever needed!

Just think of it this way, if you say, "No I can't go!"... You may not make it into the army at all. You'll be STUCK in Pat platoon for, well, along time from what I've read on these boards...

SOLDIER ON and have a hardcore can-do attitude like they've all said before!
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Re: BMQ / BMOQ - Medical, Dental, Mental health questions [Merged]
« Reply #62 on: April 07, 2005, 15:49:52 »
4 days is a long time, you cold should start to break by then. That being said, you also will not do anything physical until about day 3 (wed say) so that gives you 7 days to shake it off. I had mono on my original BMQ and had to RTU and then go back to do basic, it sucked. When I was in St.Jean, there were a couple of guys who were on PAT Platoon for over a year, one guy going on 2  :o you know what they do on PAT platoon, they tie knots in ropes for 8 hours a day, sounds like fun hey  ;)
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« Reply #63 on: April 07, 2005, 15:57:59 »
The sad thing is that if you really wanted and were desperate enough then you could PAT platoon your way for a year, get the paid vacation and everything then just release 20K richer and without having done anything of any significance....
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« Reply #64 on: April 07, 2005, 16:05:51 »
Dont worry. By week 6 everybody on your course will have a nice case of " shack hack" anyway. The air is just re-cycled around the mega so everybody gets to share germs. Suck it up and soldier on.  :salute:
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« Reply #65 on: April 07, 2005, 16:51:06 »
Yeah, I've got to agree about the air in the Mega.  After Cornwallis I was at St Jean for about 7 months, and if I didn't get outside for fresh air, it wasn't too long before I was feeling burned out.

Medicineman:  I was on Course 8824, 7 Platoon.  (10 June - 26 Aug 1988)  <---I'm a little sketchy about the dates, but those are close enough.
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« Reply #66 on: April 08, 2005, 06:50:36 »
B in B - you escaped the day I arrived.

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« Reply #67 on: April 08, 2005, 09:18:23 »
i had a really nasty cough for like 5 weeks during bmq weekends, i was keeping all the recruits up with it. it was horrible but all ya can do is tough it out

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« Reply #68 on: April 08, 2005, 11:14:54 »
Well, firstly, you wont be doing a 10k ruck march on day one, so I think you will be safe if your colds only last a week or so. Generally the first week is administrivia... about the only thing I could see being a possible issue is CFEXPRES, (fitness test on course) early on, but Im sure you'll make it through. Just do your best to be alert on course, pay attention, and perservere.  Dont whine to your staff about a cold...  suck it up, push on...  unless you cant hold anything down, or some worse illness, you should be fine for week one at least.

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« Reply #69 on: April 23, 2005, 08:49:54 »
Well, talk about a kick in the ...whatever.

Last week I hear from my son all is a-ok the next week I hear he as spent three days in the
hospital there and is sick as a dog! 
Fever over 100 has a horrible barking cough almost no voice on the phone, he says they have him on all sorts of medications.  He reports lots of guys there are sick right now as well??
That raspy voice was from much more than yelling I see now.
He kept trying to tough it out and attend his course/classes each day but
they sent him off on medical as it was obvious he was sick
Heres me worrying he is getting on ok, has enough to eat and his pillow is not too hard...typical Mom Stuff... when in reality hes been seriously ill.  :'(
I am to say the least in shock and worried that hes ok now, being unable to do anything here but
worry is not very productive and I feel frankly useless and lost.

He said he was being re-coursed... son of a ... hes so disappointed I can hear it in his voice hes been so into this
for a long time and now he gets some sort of freaking flu that just yanks the rug out from under him.

Well folks, I need your advice and input again please
What happens to him now...what are his options.
Do some of you have experiences this way and what came of it for you...
What does this 're-course' mean for his career in the CAF.
Is he still concidered part of the CAF for the three years he signed on for?
Does he do BMQ again

In reading other posts here re-coursed recruits are looked down upon almost
and that would be beyond unfair if that was to happen for him

What is the CAFs responsibility as in paying him or is that done for him now?
He spoke a bit about going into the reserves maybe attending college as well etc
Fine and dandy but college costs thousands of dollars!
What about the Argyles based here in Hamilton...any input on that as a choice for the summer for him
I am sure hes very confused by this all and feeling very disillusioned right now ( I sure am) and having to deal with it when you are ill, well just nothing looks good right now about the whole thing.

All things are said to happen for a reason...
well I sure hope this reason rears its ugly head soon!  I have a few things to say to it!

A seriously upset Army Mom in Hamilton


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« Reply #70 on: April 23, 2005, 08:59:10 »
Well, talk about a kick in the ...whatever.

Last week I hear from my son all is a-ok the next week I hear he as spent three days in the
hospital there and is sick as a dog!  
Fever over 100 has a horrible barking cough almost no voice on the phone, he says they have him on all sorts of medications.   He reports lots of guys there are sick right now as well??
That raspy voice was from much more than yelling I see now.
He kept trying to tough it out and attend his course/classes each day but
they sent him off on medical as it was obvious he was sick
Heres me worrying he is getting on ok, has enough to eat and his pillow is not too hard...typical Mom Stuff... when in reality hes been seriously ill.   :'(
I am to say the least in shock and worried that hes ok now, being unable to do anything here but
worry is not very productive and I feel frankly useless and lost.

He said he was being re-coursed... son of a ... hes so disappointed I can hear it in his voice hes been so into this
for a long time and now he gets some sort of freaking flu that just yanks the rug out from under him.

Well folks, I need your advice and input again please
What happens to him now...what are his options.
Do some of you have experiences this way and what came of it for you...
What does this 're-course' mean for his career in the CAF.
Is he still concidered part of the CAF for the three years he signed on for?
Does he do BMQ again

In reading other posts here re-coursed recruits are looked down upon almost
and that would be beyond unfair if that was to happen for him

What is the CAFs responsibility as in paying him or is that done for him now?
He spoke a bit about going into the reserves maybe attending college as well etc
Fine and dandy but college costs thousands of dollars!
What about the Argyles based here in Hamilton...any input on that as a choice for the summer for him
I am sure hes very confused by this all and feeling very disillusioned right now ( I sure am) and having to deal with it when you are ill, well just nothing looks good right now about the whole thing.

All things are said to happen for a reason...
well I sure hope this reason rears its ugly head soon!   I have a few things to say to it!

A seriously upset Army Mom in Hamilton



Being recoursed because you became ill is not a big deal career wise.  It just means that once he is well, he wil strt BMQ over with another platoon and his career will carry on. He is still a member of the CF.  Its just that training wise, the rest of the platonn cannot be held back while he gets well, so he is missing classes and training.  I certainly understand his disapointment.  There is no career "repercussions" for this...its just something that happens.  If this turns out to be some alot more serious it could be another story but asuming he gets better soon...he will be no worse for wear. I know that he will not be happy about having to redo everything but he'll deal with it and soldier on i'm sure. For the pay, he gets paid even though he is being recoursed.  He gets paid everyday he is a member of the CF, so no worries there.

Why is he talking about the reserves ? 

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« Reply #71 on: April 23, 2005, 09:09:25 »
From what you have said it sounds like your son is being re-coursed for illness. If this is the case then you and he should have no worries. He will just have to stick around St. Jean until he is healthy and then he will join another platoon. I cant tell you if he will have to start at week 1 again or not but it probably depends on how far into it he was, how well he was doing and how long he is off ill. The military pays us no matter what we are doing at the time. As to this time counting toward his contract; we have a saying in the forces:"it's all pensionable time".   Don't worry about this hurting his career, it's not an academic issue or disciplinary issue so it should have no effect. All the best to you   ;D
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« Reply #72 on: April 23, 2005, 14:09:41 »
When you bring a group of people together they are bound to bring sickness with them and spread it amongst themselves. Personally the last few days I've been having alot of the symptoms you just described, however not in the exteme you describe.

From what I've seen and heard, the CF takes care of its own quite well.

I just hope he comes back to full health soon.

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« Reply #73 on: April 24, 2005, 11:55:36 »
Good day
Once again you all have been a great help... many thanks.
How do people get along without the internet anyway?

In answer to aesop about him talking about the reserves...
I believe he was getting input on his end about options in case all goes down the dumper
Its one of those times of the self doubts and the why am I heres I would think.
Hes being pulled out of the group of people hes come to bond with respect and work well with
so that make it tough as well
My job now is to help him as I can on this end, get back on track.  As hes on the mend physically so I am sure hes seeing things more clearly.  No one functions at full steam when they are ill.
What doesn't kill you will make you stronger??
I remember when I was 19 and I knew everything about everything... one couldn't have told me things were never going to go according to my plans, heck no!
Well heres a big taste of the wonders of the ever changing adult on your own out there,
world for the boy.

On the bus...off the bus   lol

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« Reply #74 on: April 24, 2005, 12:07:49 »
I've have seen a few of the students i have had go trough similar situations and i understand it is very demoralizing at times.  Just remind him that its not the end of the world.  Alot of other soldiers have gone trough it and not just during recruit training.  Alot of guys spend years waiting for the basic para course only to get injured once they get there.  On my basic aesop course , one guy had to go home due to kidney stones.  He had been trying to become an aesop for 5 years.  Let me tell you it was rough on him to have to go home and wait another year.

I hate being cliche but i think its fitting :  "its not how you fall down...its how fast you get up that counts"

Good luck